Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

I have a buttkicker that i can have engine vibration through but prefer it off for that also, i don't know, i just don't ever really feel engine vibrations through the wheel or seat in any real cars i own or have owned or driven, maybe the old v8's like my old Falcon but it has never been something i find informative for sim racing either. I only want information i can use transferred to me for sim racing.

 

Hey @Kuku Maddog ... you are right in saying that all 3 resistors are well tuned to the default values, if you then use low LFBs and also do not use titghing it is normal that you do not have clipping problems, also consider that the T300 has other strengths, and please consider (if I am not mistaken and if I have not misread in your previous posts) that if you have made changes to your steering wheel then the ranges are also different from an original T300 ...

We come to the logitechs, having only 2.5Nm, they need to use LFB of at least 40 but better 50, the new damping (power stering) is beautiful but quite challenging, to tighten the center it is preferable to use the titghing, to homogenize even more. plus the center, even the centering voices (from Karsten's file) go high .... in this condition, lowering the static force of the cars even to 0.20 does not prevent me from clipping .... the only solution was to reduce the 3 resistances of Hi DF cars ... and since they are well tuned they should not be reshaped or squared but only reduced all 3 equally by an identical percentage ... I found the balance with a reduction of exactly 30% leaving the 3 timings unchanged.

But no one is wrong, I find it correct not to change starting from other values and with other forces at play!!

 

The file named ffb_custom_settings.txt slows down the car on my system. The racing system I use is simucube osw DD1. I turned off the electricity to see if the reason was simucube osw. Gesture control just like keyboard without ffb power. In both cases, ffb_custom_settings.txt is the cause of the slowdown. I tested dallara f309 and mclaren f1 gtr cars. The result is slowing down in any case.
the car can reach full speed on the longest straight. but the overall speed average is very low

 

This really sounds highly unlikely. How do you know it to be the case?

 

Well this file certainly fills up the middle.. Nice work man. I think I'm 65 60 35 40.

I may even drop a bit of gain yet though or up the dampening.

Great file for g27, thanks Stakanov

 

Hi @Stakanov I tried the new file this afternoon,
and it's very, very good, but I hear less feedback when I step on the curbs. In the previous file there was a good feeling of the friction of the rubber on the curb. It obviously feels better on some cars and less on some. I did the tests on the Nurburgring 24h with soft tires (Except 911 Cup, hard rubber).

The Porsche 911 Cup 3.8 is the one that left me speechless, excellent response, perfect!

Excellent GT3 and Procar M1

The Porsche 962c (Group C) and Mercedes CLK (GT1) had good asphalt sensations and less on the curbs, a sensation totally absent.

I used your values, that is; 65,50,55,55 for all categories.
the File, however, is gorgeous! I will continue to test other cars tonight and on other tracks.

 

You are right, the LFB high help for Car specifics ... but, for the setting game that is good for all major Car, the best is lift up the new Damping and go down a little with the LFB (for me of course) ... for the gain remember that you can use the per-car gain in setting car

It’s all subjective no one is perfect or right ... then is ok ... thanks for feedback

 

No problem... modify to your taste this 2 line:
(kerbs_surface_scale 3.0) #How much the curb surface on the track are felt.
(Try up to 3.1 or 3.2 for major surface curbs)

AND/OR THIS

(kerb_bump_scale 3.2) #How big the tall curb bumps are.
(Try up to 3.3 or 3.4 for major tall curbs)

Thanks mate...

 

Great! I'll try tonight .. thanks to you!

 

I would like to thank everybody who put time into improving custom FFB. Today I decided to go from the default FFB to the custom FFB (Rfuktor 3.1). It was a piece of cake. I couldn't feel a big difference at first. When I did a MP race and I didn't spin (which is rare for me ) I was convinced that this is better. It was easier to react in time to catch the car while sliding. and I also improved my laptime.

 

I wonder if there’s some soft clipping that can be added for Logitech, or maybe having increased master rack combined with lower gain might bring the low to middle force up but have lower peak force due to lower gain.
Also velocity scale may play a part ?

 

I'll try ... it's an approach that might be interesting.

 

If I interpret what Bart is saying right, running with a free wheel with no ffb seems faster ?
Well this isn’t something unheard of, it’s been said before that some aliens run no ffb as that means physics and there limitations aren’t a factor to work against you.

 

Outstanding! Very nice effort... Much tighter around the center. Nice and detailed with the roadbuzz. Works well with a t300.

Thanks guys!

 

Hello, just wondering if there is a Silver Raw recommendation for Thrustmaster TX. I'm currently using the recommended Heavy Messing 2.5 from Jan. 21

 

You can try my only slightly adjusted Easter special rfuktor tune, it’s in my signature and my settings are noted in file.

 

I will give it a try, thank you.

 

Velocity scale and lfb slider scale help control the peak responses in a Logitech, at least for me.

 

Give it a try ... let's take SPA (but we could do many other examples) and try to bring the Formula Ultimate with GAIN 65 LFB 50 and DP 55 (even if you lower them slightly it doesn't change) .... take the original Karsten file's Easter or rFuktor 3.2, also raise the velocity scale '... You tell me that you can make these curves without going into abundant clipping????
I just tried this and the clipping is there!!!! At EauRouge, at Pouhon, at Stavelot, at Blanchimont...

The same although less so with the other FORMULA, with MCLAREN MP4/12, with the FORMULA REIZA, etc etc. ... I don't know the T300 so I can't know it but on Logitech I don't think so !!!

With the decrease only of the 3 resistancesHiDF (NO LoDF) in proportion I feel I have solved the overload and therefore the clipping on all cars with high aerodynamic downforce, without upsetting anything ... all the other cars are not necessary for correction ... personal opinion of course but the abundant RED bar in the telemetry is there!!!!

 

I tested with a formula reiza on historical oval , and at 100% per car gain ( which I normally would not run on this ) it was very stiff at max load and while not quite going into red bar, it was maxing out white bar just about and didn’t feel good for the motor.
then I did what you have done to reduce the tyre resistance and it helped and felt fine, but then when I went to a GT1 or other high performance Gt style car, the feeling wasn’t as good as normal throughout the range and wasn’t as linear in progression. that’s why I reverted back to standard. And just added some static force reduction to high downforce and that was enough to contain the peak force.