Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Ok, so it should be just lowering the fx slider.
If that's not the case for anybody, please let me know.

 

Does lowering the fx slider not bring it back to how it was in EasterFuktor?

 

I've found the issue.
My changes to the coef's combined with changes to relaxations are not good, so the wheel is stronger at all times because of this... will post fix a bit later.

 

Here on Logitech G920 everything seems ok on rFuktor 3.3 ... i changed the usual value with the tuning and just a little low with FX (from 55 to 52-50) ... then micro_bumps mutch down (i use tightening) ...
Thanks @Karsten Hvidberg to have entered code in the Kart part file that are mutch mutch better and very usefull

EDIT: We await the change, take your time ....

 

@Karsten Hvidberg First of all, thank you for releasing the "rFuktor 3.3 - Momentum Rack 6.1" custom FFB file.

Coming from the EasterFuktor file, first thing I noticed straight away was that driving on the kerbs felt much stronger with the rFuktor 3.3 file. For me this was only a good thing as I previously felt the kerbs were bit lacking in the EasterFuktor file. Also I noticed that all the FX related effects felt stronger in rFuktor 3.3 file than in the EasterFuktor file. When driving the McLaren MP4/12 I had to turn down the FX setting couple of notches back as the vibrations felt a bit too strong for my taste with that car. But for Formula V12 I used the same FX value as I used in the EasterFuktor file (at 25) as it felt just fine with this car.

My baseline in AMS2 in-game FFB settings is still 37/11/25/20 (Gain/LFB/FX/Damping) so no changes for those values since the EasterFuktor file. For both Formula V12 and the McLaren MP4/12 I used the 85% setting for vehicle specific FFB gain value. These values feels just fantastic with the Formula V12 so rFuktor 3.3 is definitely a keeper for me even it does have it's downfalls. As @easy81 already mentioned, the feel of the tires while cornering has definitely improved with the rFuktor 3.3 file.

I agree with @Michael Enright about the "brutality" of rFuktor 3.3 as I found my obvervations pretty much match with his. Especially with the McLaren MP4/12 the wheel's side to side movement in a straight line is a bit exaggerated, even turning down the AMS2 in-game FFB settings few notches back does not help much with the wheel pulling side to side in a straight line. But as Karsten already mentioned, he has found the issue with the file and will post a fix later so I will test this again later once Karsten has posted his fix first.

Anyway, overall I think Karsten has already done a brilliant job with his file. To prove how good the rFuktor 3.3 file works when driving at the limit, here's a couple of screenshots of my new WR drive. It's my very first WR on Nurburgring GP in AMS2 Time Trial mode and it came with a huge 1,4 second margin so I'm proud of it.

http://www.dropbox.com/s/ibrube8jco...gring_gp_tumi_world_record_10-04-21.png?raw=1

http://www.dropbox.com/s/cmjcuk2k09...ng_gp_tumi_personal_record_10-04-21.png?raw=1

Wheel/FFB settings (no changes since the EasterFuktor file):

http://www.dropbox.com/s/saptjhrqfv..._world_record_09-04-21_ffb_settings.png?raw=1

http://www.dropbox.com/s/ofcaukn0fo..._09-04-21_ffb_settings_true_drive_1.png?raw=1

http://www.dropbox.com/s/brslgsmene..._09-04-21_ffb_settings_true_drive_2.png?raw=1

http://www.dropbox.com/s/p5xfgfr41h..._09-04-21_ffb_settings_true_drive_3.png?raw=1

 

I've left my settings for a long time, but I believe AMS2 doesn't use the Direct Input ones at all.

 

Here's updated experimental 3.3:

* Fixes too high force of prior iterations to get to final 3.3.
* Changed relaxation of over-steer, under-steer and yaw. Grouped together and called relax1_... and relax2... Also links to desmos graph for each.
* Updated Karts further. They're beginning to feel good on my wheel base now.

(Sorry for posting these experimental ones, but my time does not allow enough testing to find all issues myself, so am depending on you all saying "no" or "yes")

 

Hehe, you're not the first hating on that "click-click", I even forgot what it was when it happened to me recently.
But...
Its just a flat-spot 8)
I am not sure if I should just disable them, since they're def. not pleasant 8)

 

Yes

 

Final rFuktor 3.3 just posted, further improvements based on feedback will be for 3.4.

Karts got some further adjustments so I finally feel good about them.

* Less clipping on higher downforce at higher gain settings.
* Karts adjusted to feel better.
* Adjusted feel of grip loss. Slightly sooner, very slightly less pronounced.
* Changed relaxation of over-steer, under-steer and yaw. Grouped together and called relax1_... and relax2... Also links to desmos graph for each.

High end file only. Compatible with EasterFuktor values.

Direct link: https://forum.reizastudios.com/attachments/ffb_custom_settings-silver-raw-rfuktor-3-3-txt.13926/

 

Gosh your busy today.
by the time i get around to having a go you guys should have it all ironed out

 

Ok @Karsten Hvidberg

I’ve tested the last 3 files and found the last two with the combine relaxers to be lacking in front axle and tire feel, and the wheel is quite slow or has more friction.

the last one poster before them that @tUMi liked is much better in that regard. And apart from the exaggerated bumps , it’s pretty good.

still think I will continue with Easter file for now though.

 

Does this experimental 3.4 fix the issue?

 

oh yes it Does
Feels awesome, and very similar to my last posted tune, but just a little nicer on the edges, after a direct back to back comparison with no settings changed apart from tightening. ( 0.09 0.02)
I might reduce micro bumps a little for comfort.

 

Thanks for the final rFuktor 3.3 file. I've tested this final 3.3 file with the Formula V12 and the McLaren MP4/12 and no more that annoyingly excessive wheel pulling side to side on a straight line. It seems you have managed to tame that effect successfully. Other than that, I have no complaints, it is much less brutal now on higher downforce cars. The final version of the rFuktor 3.3 seems to work really well on my wheelbase, feel of grip loss is also very well adjusted. Good work!

I have also tested the experimental rFuktor 3.4 file and wow, it's very, very good! On higher downforce cars like Formula V12 and McLaren MP4/12 it definitely feels more refined than the final rFuktor 3.3 file, the feel of grip loss is just spot on. FX related stuff feels now a bit lighter and less distracting (however I can still feel the kerbs just as well I could feel then in rFuktor 3.3), also the wheel pulling side to side on a straight line at higher downforce at high speeds is even better tamed in this experimental rFuktor 3.4 file than it was in the final rFuktor 3.3 file. Very nice work with the experimental rFuktor 3.4 file, Karsten! For me this file is definitely a keeper, I see no reason to go back to the final rFuktor 3.3 file.

By the way, your experimental rFuktor 3.4 is mental when driving at the limit. I just managed to take a whopping six tenths of a second off from my yesterday's WR lap time on Nurburgring GP in AMS2 Time Trial (now the difference between my WR and the 2nd best lap time is two seconds). Screenshots below:

http://www.dropbox.com/s/3vftf2al3n...gring_gp_tumi_world_record_11-04-21.png?raw=1

http://www.dropbox.com/s/ncmykw2r4w...ng_gp_tumi_personal_record_11-04-21.png?raw=1

 

Ok, so posted 3.4 with only a minor additional tweak to the Kart velocity limit control compared to the experimental version.

These comments describe the step from 3.3 to 3.4:

* Refined Karts.
* Refined relaxation values for over-steer, under-steer and yaw.
* Relaxation values split up in relax_os, relax_us and relax_yaw values. Desmos graph links for each added.

High end file only.

Direct link: https://forum.reizastudios.com/attachments/ffb_custom_settings-silver-raw-rfuktor-3-4-txt.13935/

 

Ive also been testing the various files these last couple of days and my main "complaint" was the fuzzyness on the edges of the FFB.
This file feels absolutely spot on, possibly the most informative FFB Ive ever used.
One thing though is that Ive had to set my Gain and FFB on my wheel base to 100 and it still feels fairly light to me.

Is that something that comes with the settings or am I doing it wrong?

 

Hi Kevin,

It's hard to say, but which wheel base and what are all your in-game settings?

 

This is on a CSL Elite running 100-10-50-0 InGame atm.

It feels especially light around the center of the rotation but overall FFB feels way lighter than it did before on 65-80 Gain even.

 

Which car?
That is important when it comes to both LFB setting as well as how much downforce it generates.
Did you look at the in-game HUD ffb signal and see if it's low there too?
Additionally, one of the 3.3 experimentals was quite brutal, so if you happen to be comparing against that particular one, then that might also be part of the explanation.