Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Apart from the bug, i feel this file has much much better balance now between various resistance forces of various cars, especially very high downforce vs GT, also weight affecting brake "effect" was changed slightly which allowed small overall reduction, it seemed to be too heavy for some wheelbases.

 

@Stakanov I will check how your tighten is felt on my wheel base tomorrow and let you know.

 

Very smooth now.
NAME: SilverRaw-rFuktor3.8-MomentumRack6.1-Karsten-PeterS-G920
TYPE: Unified
MODIFIED FOR: G920
IN-GAME STARTING POINT: Low end wheels 66 - 63 - 45 - 56
DATE: 04-29-21
LINK: ffb_custom_settings - Silver Raw - rFuktor 3.8_PeterS_G920

 

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I hope you can feel only a very slight different attitude around the position of force 0 and not to warn anyone in order to implement it (basic or even optionally) by the user without there being the need to modify anything in your FFB file that it's wonderful ... if it doesn't bother DD steering wheels it certainly doesn't bother everyone else ... with Peter we started from TR 0.0050 and TF 0.0005 and He (who is much more sensitive than me) in the tests correctly advised to decrease it to 0.0020 and 0.0002 to avoid inconvenience to other steering wheels ... you who instead have the SC2 and therefore a DDs could incrementally verify up to what level it does not become invasive and above all at what level you feel this sensation in the center ... with these simple incremental tests:
TR 0.0010 TF 0.0001
TR 0.0020 TF 0.0002
TR 0.0030 TF 0.0003
TR 0.0040 TF 0.0004
... and so on!!!

NOW I AM AT WORK BUT I CAN'T WAIT TO TRY THE NEW 3.8 ... THANKS GUYS!!!

 

Ok, I just tried & I don't think I feel anything with those values.
@Shadak Your podium is more sensitive at the very lowest forces, do you feel anything different by changing to these:

(tighten_range 0.0050) #Use for lower end wheel bases.
(tighten_falloff 0.0005) #Use for lower end wheel bases.
?

 

Try go up with step
0.0060 0.0006
0.0070 0.0007
until you feel a very small different almost placebo sensation of closure
Edit: in karts perhaps it is felt earlier by being more sensitive ...
Edit 2: the more you DDs go up without warning or rather without changing the logic and the sensation of the rFuktor file ... the better for us LowEnd users
Edit 3: When I tested the Tighten I did it on GT3 and then the Formula V10 Gen2 cars or better the Ultimate 2019 ... as soon as you feel the sensation try the karts as it could be too much on them and then (in this cases) go back to intermediate values ...

 

So @Shadak just tested in 2 different ways.
Currently we apply the tighten function only when the ffb signal is not zero, but you can also just always apply it, so he tried both ways.

The limit for starting to feel it WITH the zero check in place, as it is in the file now:
(output (if output (tighten output 0.004 0.0004) output))

The limit for starting to feel it WITHOUT the zero check in place:
(output (tighten output 0.001 0.0001))

So @Stakanov please replace this line:

(output (if output (if (+ tighten_range tighten_falloff) (tighten output tighten_range tighten_falloff) output) output))

With one the 2 ones & let us know which helps you the most on your wheel base?

 

I return from work to home in 4 hours ... then i check ... in this moment i don't now if @Peter Stefani is on line for testing now ... you are always CURTEOUS guys thanks

Just a confirmation... ok for replace but first, in these lines I always have to insert the same values ???
(tighten_range 0) #Use for lower end wheel bases.
(tighten_falloff 0) #Use for lower end wheel bases.

Or not for now I leave to 0 because it is added manually in the last line of the output below:
(output (if output (tighten output 0.004 0.0004) output))
(output (tighten output 0.001 0.0001))

 

Right, it won't matter what you set the top values at, as they're not used when these lines are in place.

 

Right it's true sorry ... in the other part of rFuctor is non utilized the function tighten (range or falloff) ... except in the output

 

Umm, not sure if you misspelled genitalia or gentle but you do know gentile means "non jewish", right?

Anyway, will be interesting to see how you feel about this file, i find it one of the best in a long time.

 

GENTLE, COURTEOUS OR KIND OF COURSE .... SORRY FOR THE ERROR
go to correct ahahhahh

 

@Karsten Hvidberg and whoever.

It's ok for me to follow instructions to set "default" at CP.
But, truly "default" or zeroed "spring" and "damper" as many people advices?

I know I can test for myself but what is the correct approach [edit: to custom files]?
(A) The better for me? is it?

 

Not sure I understand completely what you mean.
Damper slider in the custom file is now powersteering, that reduces the resistance, or rather the build up resistance. So when you feel like the top-end torque is too much, increase this slider and then increase the gain to give you the overall force that you want, the force throughout the steering angles will become more even. I personally use 25-30.

 

Thanks!
I'm referring about the default config at Control Panel

 

In version 3.8, @Shadak is proposing to adjust "bump_feel_follow_weight" to:

(bump_feel_follow_weight 0.30)

As it otherwise becomes quite harsh on bumpy tracks in f-cars.
We will make just this little adjustment + perhaps add what @Stakanov concludes reg. tighten, but that will be it(unless more comes to light) for a version 3.9.

 

I’m go to home now… 30 minute

 

@Karsten Hvidberg @Shadak
They are both beautiful albeit with very subtle differences, here is my excitement about both:

In the first case you feel the nuance of tightening with an on-off effect (I don't know if placebo) passing through the 0 position !!

(output (if output (tighten output 0.004 0.0004) output))

In the second case tightening feels rounder and always present no matter where the forces are!!

(output (tighten output 0.001 0.0001))


Taking into consideration also the future developments for the uses of the tighten and considering it can be modified at will by everyone and in a homogeneous way (like all the other items in the file) by increasing and/or decreasing the value, I would say in the first instance that:

I MUCH PREFER THE SECOND !!!!
(output (tighten output 0.001 0.0001))

 

Love that file, nice detailed feeling. Just out of curiosity, in the Thrustmaster app, I have damper and spring set to 0. Would that be the correct setting for your file?