Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

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  1. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    I briefly tried this file too, and did like many aspects of it.
    it was better for me with tightening values 0.0
    but i think these t300s etc are far more sensitive to fx signals than most. I can never run high fx without being rattled to bits.
     
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  2. Panos Schoino

    Panos Schoino New Member

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    Kuku, do you mind trying again with lower damping values (power steering), even 5 and below and report if you still get the light/low oversteer? You might have to run lower gain as well.
     
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    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Yes that does improve things a lot.
    Lowering both dampening (ps) and Lfb to half previous levels works better without having to lower gain really.

    Last run was with Caterham at 55-60/ 25/ 25/ 20-25 & it felt good .
    but damper anywhere over that would bring on lack of feeling of rear again.
     
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    Panos Schoino New Member

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    Yep i noticed the same when we were tuning this file. With the SCpro i run damping from 1 to 10 depeding on the car, lfb 12. WIth the cat i think i was with 5 damping...At least by adjusting the damping you should be able to match all cars needs.
     
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  5. Fizzy

    Fizzy Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    4.0 works great for my CSL Elite. Probably my favourite rFuktor version so far. Only tried with GT1 Merc and P4 Metalmoro.

    I need to make a few tweaks (kerbs are too strong, road texture needs a change too), but the feeling of the car dynamics is just great for me. I’ll post the tweaked file when I get ‘round to it.

    edit: Running 70/30/50/50 in game.
     
  6. Magnus

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    I’ve been using this today and think I’m happy to use it ‘as is.’ I’m running 70/25/50/50 and have loved the feedback.

    I’ve always preferred the MCR2000, struggling with the P4 Metalmoro, but today with this file I managed to put myself in P8 on the Bathurst TT leader boards with the Metalmoro - it’s been a while since I drove it but I think the improved ffb files these guys have provided have played a big part in me finding the way to drive it.
     
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  7. JoKeR

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    Using the 4.0 with the changes suggested by Stakanov here (force_scale (* 1.8 (/ 0.22 centering))), the file is the best so far regarding general feeling of grip, balance. I feel I'm fast with it, but specially on twitchy circuits I'm struggling to properly feel when the tires are loosing traction/spinning or locking.
    Few files ago I used to feel a subtle soft rattling when spinning/loosing traction, and a subtle loss of force strength when locking tires (the wheel felt slightly lighter while the tires were locked). This was really very important to me, because I'm using the weakest wheel (G25).
    As far as I know (i.e., nada), the scrub_scale and tear_scale would be used to enhance/diminish these effects. I'm sure now that I'm wrong, because I've changed the values like scrub 1.0 and tear 50 (yep, fifty) on file and felt nothing different.
    Can someone point me in the right direction if there is a way to get that behavior back or strong, please?
    Cheers.
     
  8. Fizzy

    Fizzy Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Here is my Fanatec CSL Elite tweaked version of rF4.0

    Only tried with 3 cars so far, but I'm very happy with it. In game I'm using ~70/~25/~55/~45 (but I find adjusting these sometimes helps with 'problem' cars).

    On wheel I have FEI at 90 and dRi at -02. I suggest tweaking the in game settings mentioned above for specific vehicles if needed.

    Hope this is of use to someone :)
     

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  9. Carmine Carpentiero

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    i would like a good setting with ts-pc racer, thanks
     
  10. Magnus

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    Unless someone comes along with something that works perfectly for you I’d suggest you don’t be afraid to open the file and play around with it.

    I'm normally very cautious about editing files, especially ones where I have very little knowledge of the code or parameters. However, the guys behind these files have given advice for adjustments inside the file alongside those parameters you can change which make it very easy to make any adjustments.

    Start by trying the file as it comes and adjusting in-game settings to your preference. When you've got something that feels workable you'll have a good idea of what may need adjusting for your wheel and/or tastes. In the previous versions I lowered the feedback on kerbs slightly - on this version I like it all as it comes and have only adjusted my in-game settings.

    If you have a look and don't think you are willing to make changes that's fine but you'll have to put up with what someone else prefers.

    They've not just done an incredible job making the ffb, to my thinking the best I've ever felt in any of the sims I've played, they've done a fantastic job of letting people like me know what they can adjust.

    I hope you find something that works for you. Good luck.
     
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  11. Fizzy

    Fizzy Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Today I fired up AMS2 and the FFB felt weak and lifeless. Deleting my documents/Automobilista 2 folder resolved the issue. This is maybe the 5th or 6th time I've had to do this.

    When doing this, I make sure to copy triplescreensettings, graphicsconfigdx11 and ffb_custom_settings files before deleting. Unfortunately doing this means loosing settings, setups and replays.

    Just thought I'd post this in case anyone else is getting really weak, lifeless FFB. I don't know if using custom FFB files contributes to this problem, but something is clearly getting corrupted occasionally.

    Once this issue was sorted, I further tweaked my CSL Elite file (attached). This version stays closer to Karsten's original rF4.0.
     

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  12. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Finally found a good bit of time to do some tuning for my T300 ( which means something else wasn't done lol )
    rFuktor 4.0 wasn't gelling with me and was stubborn to tune, So using 3.7 as a base, I have gone through it with a lot of trialing things, and come up with something quite different from my usual .
    There's quite a few minor changes that add up to quite a bit.

    Its a balance of informative and compliant , with less excess .
    Its super smooth on my wheel which is great because some files make it feel like a gear driven.
    I can drive my problem cars with far more confidence, and my favorites just beg to be pushed harder.

    edit: I mistakenly left out my tm control panel gain settings in file, will amend tomorrow, but I run at 75 gain, with other inputs 100/100/0/0.
     

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    @Kuku Maddog
    Care to try my T300 file? It's modified from the Stakanov 3.9 Alpha 3. I'll try your and let you know. I use lfb at 40, damper 80 (this is subjective, lower is to stiff for my taste).

    Edit: liking your tune better than mine. I'll just tune the kerbs down a bit, for my liking.
     

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  14. Alegunner68

    Alegunner68 Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Hi all, new file 4.0 feeling good here apart from the lack of scrub and kerbs being way too aggressive.
    Bit of tweaking and it should be peachy.
    Tried it in the wet before tweaking and found the scrub/loss of grip to be perfect. Not sure what to do now as increasing scrub will overdo it in the wet.
     
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    Alegunner68 Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Your sen adjustment highlights what was missing for me in previous files, it adds more feeling at lower steering angles.
    But 4.0 seems to have rectified that for me to a certain extent, I'm finding it to be very good overall especially in cars like the Mclaren F1 GTR.
    I also use damp very low to get the most feel.
     
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  16. Great Ape

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    Have my rig up and runnning again, will give that a try this evening.
     
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    Alegunner68 Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Tweaked the file slightly for my csw, i'm finding I have to change less each time a new one is released yay.
    Great work as usual Karsten and all.
     

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  18. sampopel

    sampopel Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    To avoid losing setups, replays, etc that you want to keep, why don't you just backup these sub-folders before deleting the entire Documents/Automobilista2 folder structure, then copy each of these sub-folders back across when the new Documents/Automobilista2 folder structure has been generated?

    I sometimes get weird and weak FFB feel when I launch a new AMS2 session but I've found it usually occurs if I've been playing another sim (particularly AMS1) immediately beforehand, and then launch AMS2 straight after. A PC reboot, or even just unplugging wheel and restarting wheel driver software, always seems to resolve it for me.
     
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    Fizzy Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Regarding copying stuff back over: my reason for not doing it is I don’t know which file is causing the corruption (if any?)

    Regarding the reboot pc / wheel suggestion: I’m slightly embarrassed to say, I hadn’t thought of that(!). Because I had read that deleting the folder often rectifies ffb problems, I just did that on impulse, so thanks for the suggestion. If it happens again, I’ll try a reboot first.
     
  20. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Updated My T300 file to V2 .
    Some small improvements and
    added some useful info of settings and instructions for new users that might be unfamiliar with custom files if they have link shared to them.
     
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