Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

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  1. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    @Fizzy Ray, will you post recommended or both modded and recommended stuff for csl/csw wheel base as well?
     
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    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    @Kuku Maddog What settings do you run in-game & in your tm settings? I'd like to add to the new complete file for post 1, thanks!
     
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    Fizzy Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I’m away from my rig for a while. I’m moving home and the sim stuff has to be packed up for a while. Sorry I can’t be more help :oops:
     
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  4. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Flat out at work this morning , but if i can recall it’s around 70/60/25/10
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    it should be listed in top part of file .
     
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    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Updated post 1 and 2 with simpler stuff and just 1 single zip file with all 4.4 versions.
     
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  6. Hank Madison

    Hank Madison New Member

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    Just getting familiar with this thread and appreciate the tireless work you are all doing to improve this experience. Thank you for simplifying posts 1 and 2. Is there a similar place to find recommended wheel/in-game settings for specific wheels (like CSL Elite)? Thank you again!
     
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  7. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    We actually are missing some suggested setting for CSL & CSW, but I would go from maybe what has been suggested some pages back and then change to my liking.
    If those are no good, then go from some DD settings.
    For fanatec settings I think Dri -2 was suggested at some point.

    Be aware that "Damping" is not damping in the rFuktor file, but is instead power steering, so increasing it makes cornering less forceful.

    Please post your findings so we can add to the file or the post.
     
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  8. bandqit

    bandqit Active Member

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    Here are the settings I’m using with 4.4 on my CSW 2.5. The only thing I’ve changed in the file itself is “kerb_bump_scale” down slightly to 2.5, and “scrub_scale” to 1.4.

    Wheel settings:
    Sen Auto
    FF 90
    Dri -02
    Fei 50*
    For 100
    Spr Off
    Dpr Off
    Sho 100
    BrF 70

    In game:
    Gain 55
    LFB 10 (+/- 5 depending on car)
    FX 35
    Damping 50 (+/- 10 depending on car)

    *I find having the FEI setting lowered on the wheel and higher FX in game gives a better feel. Higher FEI values bring in a kind of high frequency buzzing for me.

    Loving it as above - thanks again!
     
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  9. Hank Madison

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    FWIW, I spent a couple of hours driving a handful of tin top cars with 4.4 on my CSL Elite v1.1 Wheelbase and P1 wheel. I am by no means an FFB expert so I'm open to suggestions for improvement. That said, with these settings I found myself immersed in the driving experience instead of fussing with the wheel.

    Again -- would love to hear other suggestions.

    CSL Elite v1.1 Wheelbase + P1 Wheel

    SEN Auto
    FF 100
    Dri -02
    FEI 70
    FOR 100
    SPR Off
    DPR Off
    SHO 100
    BRF 50

    In game:
    Custom (4.4)
    Gain 60
    LFB 30
    FX 50
    Damping 30
    Menu Spring 0
     
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  10. Hank Madison

    Hank Madison New Member

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    Are any of you using Fanalab's dynamic FFB in conjunction with the custom FFB files?
     
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  11. Marnus Zwarts

    Marnus Zwarts Boost Creep AMS2 Club Member

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    Yeah th
    Yeah, this is about it. I just differ in FF 30, FEI 100, FX 65 - this is for much lighter FFB and still some good feel through the wheel.
     
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  12. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    A trick for newcomers:

    You can control the center strength in 2 different ways, leading to very different feel of the steering, so if you are not happy with whatever you are doing, try the other way:
    * Use lfb slider.
    or
    * Increase the in-game gain and ALSO increase the in-game damping. This strengthens the whole range, but then relaxes the cornering strength(as the damping slider is used for power-steering in rFuktor).

    It makes a big difference and many times it is far better to use method 2.
    Same different methods can be used for softening the center or strengthening the cornering.
     
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    Here is an experimental rFuktor 4.5.

    * Fixes: the hard jerk on grip loss end.
    * Experiment: Lfb adjusts the center slightly different, by not adjusting the "center full", but adjusts lfb, caster trail length and gain/damping combination.
     

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  14. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Hi
    Short test through the lfb range with tuning values in place , and no changes to centre full or relax.

    Felt quite springy or rubber band effect.
    less springy at low Lfb but more load details at higher Lfb .
     
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    Panos Schoino New Member

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    Try with higher damping than what you have been using with 4.4
     
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    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Yes will give that a go tonight, i’ve actually started going to almost zero damper ( power steering) with my tune, finding even better tyre feel with it.
     
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    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    so I have tried with increased centre full to get straight ahead and low angle feel the same as what I’m used to.
    And with a fair bit of fiddling with Lfb and damperi still end up with mid to low lfb and similar damper, I can get a decent response, but it’s still a bit to rubber bandy for my liking, it feels more toyish in a way. Its not bad at all, and I could comfortably keep it, but I prefer my tune with the old way, it feels more realistic.

    It may well serve gear driven wheels well by giving a more constant pull on wheel.
     
  18. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    I think prob. 4.5 EXP is better for dd and possibly csw or csl.

    The lines that fix the jolt on grip loss end should be used in 4.4, however.
    So I think I will make a 4.5 file where that is the only difference.
     
  19. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    i can’t say i have noticed a jolt ?
    Do you mean so sudden loss of strength rather than a jolt
     
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    To get in the mood for the weekend I did a bit of Formula Ultimate at Monaco, and found 4.5 EXP to be much better on my DD1 than 4.4. With 4.4 it felt like my rig would shake apart, and seeing the notes about 'jolts on grip loss' I think that was the cause.
     
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