Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. Raceracerace

    Raceracerace Active Member

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    I just remembered that in my control panel I run dampener at 0 I think!? You can always try that if it feels strange. Or adjust one by one tenth place at a time. Eg 48, try, 47 try for center relax. In case your wheel operates slightly differently.
     
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    For belts at least, a peak is probably reached via the custom is my guess. I know the market is trying to push people towards ever higher quality stuff, but the two are diverging. Musclfuktor is actually really decent in its default state, i do prefer it over the games default. But for a belt the heavy center as found in other titles is probably whats letting the belts down at the moment, as there is no perfect blend. The game does really well to get round this by dynamically tightening and loosening and its feels natural, but for some they like (for a belt) the non find the pebble on the road kind of thing, and default for me is too bumpy, but its probably a necessity for such diverse titles like this don't know.

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    Therefore this is SaurapodMustard based on 4.5 exp

    -smoothest rack ever for a belt, was able to set world record time
    -high precision across nearly all cars
    - high speed rattle of the rack, gone
    -high speed engine feel upon turning the key, retained.
    - car surges and turns and road detail is enhanced, feel/feedback is highly noticable without being washed out or muddy, suspension changes noticeable, bumps, curbs, going down a hill, compression of springs etc, all there and within the bounds for this strength of wheel

    - if you think its not smooth enough for you, or for your transition from center to turn, or center to lock or even lock to lock speed is somehow too low for you, then you can:

    > adjust in game gain and dampener. I have mine now set to 80 gain, 50 damping, 65 fx, 80 lfb / OR alternatively as the situation calls for it, or your belt gets warm after some use you could make a case for turning it down per car, not so good, or just set it to 65 gain, 50, 50, 40. The reason being longevity, but also depending on car you don't need the extra 25 gain and turning. Imola f1 reiza, you can fully have it 'full' feeling without such high values.

    > Adjust (center relax 0.xx) in the custom file. It is currently 0.43 which is a change from pre minor 1.2 patches, but post 1.2 main patch. You would want to go up and down in small increments. Higher, tighter, lower looser. Try 0.01 at a time.

    > To a lesser extent and not really recommended, if you feel its not the transition from center to turn that is the problem, you could try adjusting the (tighten range ? . ?) and (tighten falloff ? . ?) in small increments above what they are, but you will have more luck with the center relax. The file has been made to conform to the boundaries of a tx belt, and also the parameters scale within the custom file. Its a smooth file but the bumps are there. Its good for driving rather than trying to detect pebbles on the road surface with.

    The driving feels progressive, linear, smooth and precise, and natural. The car will continue to throw the steering about owing to its power and the physics.

    Cubs and bumps and stuff

    - curb scale I changed to 2.6, from 2.8 because of the 30% extra forces across the file, these can be changed back in the 'road features' section down the bottom - I think you will think the changes are in-line with other forces now and more true to life compared to a value of 2.8 (with the boost it receives elsewhere) and the calculation it crosses related to the 2.6 value; should be fine, seen here most at Nürburgring 24 hour and spa 93 as being totally within reason and bearable while making an authentic movement/sensation with the suspension and bumps and everything else - now the car goes up and comes down and lands/equal opposite force stuff as one would expect a 1+tonne vehicle (or lighter) to do so considering you are feeling it through the wheel; game is modelled well and in your mind we all know we carry a model and this is in the zone definitely. Its pretty cool. Light/stiff, heavy-limber, in between, its all very nice - if something is low-slung to the ground and you go over the undulations, or if its higher up, its really cool. You even get the seemingly correct-more sensation of downforce. How the game was I am not 'knocking' as to its quality - but this belt drive really appreciated the forces after changes being put back within bounds, even reinforced.

    - thus I changed down curb surface .2 you can change it back if you like, but its in line

    - in the section 'effects scales' down the bottom where you can also turn off flat spots (0.1 is ok as a low value you won't interfere too much with driving/getting back to the pits at some point when you slam the brakes on especially soft compounds, usually not the heavier ones...but if thats too strong consider 0.07 as present but barely a nuisance and 0.0 as being off. I would guess now with everything changed that 0.6-0.7 is going to make you question whether to brake hard or not and replace the tyre

    -road bumps large. Changed. It was tempting thus far with only bumpy Nürburgring-nords section being an outlyer and hockenheim ring/older tracks perhaps to not change this, but I did after trying a lot of tracks. I wasn't happy with "40%" margin of error overall why not go for 10-15%?

    It went to 0.38, and this takes the edge off them, to blend it back down in the pool of ffb. It felt like the curve of the graph so to speak was too pointy after the other changes.

    -road bumps off road - Changed up to .4. Do we all intend to come off the track? It was like glass before on a belt drive, the detail was just not there, this brings it up to feeling those smooth high/low undulations and increased spring travel.

    - I considered, take brands hatch - curbs and curb surface now in line but suspension exaggeration bumped up a bit, you can feel the undulations and compression and there's a pretty macro-detailed surface with dips and things. On the straight there are more of these 'dips' on the surface and the ride is like a river. It seems in proportion and as you scuff over it. For the smaller bumps and stuff I left it as is. For a belt we don't really want to adjust them down, its all blended relatively nicely.

    - the tact taken here is to feel the micro bumps less, as such, because this is not one size fits all or anything, and the custom file is so good... and the base game so on point, the game engine is really flipping good, so I had an opportunity and therefore the suspension and undulations and interplay with everything more and more could come to the fore. I was continually over time trying different cars; lighter/heavier; its difficult to undertake since at speilberg short the f1 reiza etc feel really low slung and nice, a balance would need to be struck, and .2 above could becomes .16 off, even; but I beg to dither on that thought, as for example Nords again, feels like a road once more (after many iterations). I think I have settled on the right numbers. You will begin to appreciate that in the file above this one - heavy steering, you don't need to tone down bumps etc, as the steering ploughs through - well with slightly lighter steering you once again get the 'crest' of the undulation and the sense that the front, back, either side of the car is going over a part of it or many parts of many undulations at once. Really cool. And like naturally to offset the 'force in motion car/smooth movement' of the road the curbs are again nice to bump into as if you went over a piece of cut timber used in building.

    So when I think of these things I think in terms of a motorbike for example and the expected occurrence of bumps and undulations and how its like riding a boat at times, and also how it can be like being jarred. I think the tracks have all the nice information there mostly how you would think (and you're looking at graphics) so I do not necessarily need the texture scale or mini bumps turned up as one would with a g29 to get the higher feedback quality/information density, in order to appreciate the pace of the undulations/track and the suspension feel, for a belt drive. I think those scales and whatnot are mostly correct. There's rolling resistance, no one is out there dragging each wheel across like sandpaper. And its nice too how you scuff and those undulations etc happen faster.

    Up and down versus up and down and to the side

    With the above, at Nürburgring 24 an example: you can go up and down as expected, but what about nords coming over forget the name, the hill/rise on the left and it soon goes to the right once you pass the crest... well imagine the above and at speed the car (merc gt3) lifts up a little and to the right as you go over the crest, its a nice effect or model in this game and all told its very engaging. Especially when its just about the compress and hunker down a little to the bottom right when you go over the crest and begin the turn. The sensations to model it back to your brain are done pretty well I'd say via the wheel; and of course your input/turning radius and angle/degrees is stretching out or compressing during it.

    - one of the tests I would do on it, to show the changes, would be the lighter overpowered by comparison cars, rocco with settings if you want to use these:

    :: drivetrain/diff of 30, 2, 73, 55, and
    front ARB 12, rear 6, downforce 4 (or some other combination)
    front tyres 140, breaks 60 front - should get a setup thats pretty decent or the start of one
    front wheels - 8.0, -3.2 (or less), 30, 4, 4, 10, 9, 5, 5
    rear lift spring thats 3 a little, and rear camber increase to -1.0
    steering rack 19 was ok for myself, +/- 1-3

    Iam not a massive setup expert, but this is all done on cold morning and no rubbering, but 20 cars going round nords and in front of me to rubber down too. Be prepared with this thing to use the WHOLE steering range, so turn the wheel all the way round etc (not that much maybe but literally) and you will get ALL the turn-in you need


    other things - then reiza f1 at speilberg modern short or laguna seca, merc gt3 at nords or similar/anywhere really. gte's too, virginia is a good one at times for something you may not have done months ago.

    - yes. The rocco now at nordsliefe, for the belt, got to try it, its come a long way with this, the game patch, Karstens file, even kuku gave an indication, its driving and stiff suspension on the light cars, this is definitely hitting the spot - even most of the gt3's suspensions for my preference of pushing forward the drivers-car aspect of this.
    On the open wheelers the game models the best, true, but its come so fat for tin tops, and the older cars, etc.
    I'd like to think the file conforms with what default has in mind, but less gritty and granular, perhaps. I am not against default or default-custom, I just prefer this from a gameplay perspective.
    I cannot guarantee this will work for each and every wheel but the (center relax 0.xx ) up/down from .43 by 0.01 each time will hopefully make a difference if not, and remember the settings I am using in game. (its my guess the better/stronger wheels above a tx will want to go up toward .50 but not all at once - and too far away from that number will begin to make the physics expecting certain inputs awry; but you can also adjust in setup steering rack and damper for turning strength, mine is 50). For this motor/belt .43 is ideal, think its 3 or 4Nm, and for that amount I think the file is amazing.

    This is not the same game, but its as engaging a driving model as something like dirt rally 2 with a wheel and yes you must make your micro corrections, but you can also push through slides etc as you would expect, let off throttle and hit it, etc.
     
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  3. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I apologize in advance, I know I will regret it :( ... but I would like to remind everyone that here we are all guests of both Reiza and Karsten & Co. ... communicating your feelings and settings is fine, sometimes even discussing in an animated way as well (I do not even conceive this if not for mathematical or logical certainties, let alone if I could ever argue or get angry about the feelings that another user has), but always exaggerating any modification or **** you change seems useless and not very productive ... as well as confusing for the people reading and does not have the capacity to understand the differences!!! :(
    Another thing that could be avoided is that of incoherence, it is not possible to accept that you write in one discussion that the default is good and then coming here and saying that the custom is good too, or on the contrary, criticizing on one side and then criticizing on the other, seems to me somewhat rambling and illogical!! o_O
    If someone is convinced that they are able to know what does not work on the belt-driven steering wheels, that they do and compile their own RACK, their own file rewritten from scratch, their own instructions, their own lines of code, to see what these subjects would be able to do and how they would be able to amaze us ... I know that in the end some are carrying out precisely the behavior that was so criticized of others and moreover in an offensive way, that is, to have absolute truths when, at the end all, he does is choose a version and do a simple tuning believing himself to be scientists!!!

    IF YOU REALLY NEED IT, YOU CAN CREATE YOUR OWN PERSONAL DISCUSSION WHERE TO DISCUSS BOTH THE CUSTOM, THE DEFAULT OR YOUR REASONINGS AND ARGUMENTS, AND PUBLISH IN IT AS MANY TIMES AS YOU WANT ... USERS WILL CHOOSE WHETHER TO INTERACT OR NOT ... MAYBE EVEN I COULD BE AMONG THESE, BUT WE DON'T RUIN THE LEGIBILITY OF THIS DISCUSSION ... AND THAT IT IS CLEAR IT IS VALID FOR EVERYONE NOT ONLY FOR SOMEONE!!!

    I want to express my thanks to Karsten & Co. for the work he does daily, I don't care if his work is specific to DDs or not, for me it is an opportunity and I rejoice and I also thank all the users who communicate their experiences, also yours .... but the day that the Default for me it will be better I will say it, I will explain it here (without needing to hear from Dante Alighieri and/or to write the Divine Comedy) and then I will use the default until, eventually, the improvements to the custom will not be superior again ... a little respect for the work of others!!!

    I HOPE THAT THE USERS UNDERSTAND THE CONSTRUCTIVE SPIRIT OF THIS POST ... YOU WILL APOLOGIZE ME IN ADVANCE, BUT I HAVE TO COMMUNICATE THAT ONLY MY GENITALS HAVE BECOME JURASSIC :D ... AND THEN SUPPORTED FROM ALL "BELTS" OF THE CASE ... REGARDLESS OF THE GOODNESS OF REASONING!!! :cool:

    Jurassic-Porn-1-x400.jpg

    It's simple, and regardless of the jokes I use to play down, I say this just because I want everyone's good ... we give space to the compilers of the FFB file with synthetic and functional judgments ... we users are just lucky but here I would like to hear mainly them and read less criticisms and sermons!!!
    NO ANSWERS WILL FOLLOW IT'S JUST MY THOUGHT!!!!
     
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  4. Raceracerace

    Raceracerace Active Member

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    omg spare us your moral injustices. Dude..... lol, sorry but ridicule is coming back at you, that was....something.... are you serious? This is the biggest "Little B" move ever, one of backstabbing proportions, thinly disguised as a moral compass for this thread...come. off. it.

    There's 150 pages - anything you had to say or wanted to say, and thought you could say, there's been a long time to do so. I am sorry you are a lonely man, and you feel this place should conform to the mastery of your emotional needs..... I, too have been here on and off for a long time, well only 12 months now and then.

    Based on this attitude from you if you're a day over 23 I would be incredibly surprised. If you're a day over 19 I would be surprised.

    What that whole thing about is displaying to me is a repressed passive-aggression attitude, and as such it speak volumes about the content of your character - guess what, I don't want to discuss your character...I only want to see your files and thoughts pertaining to files.

    RESULTS, MAN! RESULTS.

    Not whinges. People either come here to work on the file, or exploit the file. Its been made free, its a public gift.

    You have come here for a place to make your own. Please, friend, go live a life and be whole in the world, not get esoteric on here.

    I tried your file and its good, but I like this one better and I thought I would share it.

    Where-ever you gave me advice I have credited it.

    Apart from that, if you're jealous or something, suck a lemon.

    Do you really think a complete stranger cares about your feelings on here, who comes here specifically to grab the custom file? And with it, after all of the guys hard work, do something with it - yes he does work hard on it, and its a marvelous thing, but stop pretending its this special property you're protecting or something. He's that smart - he probably does it in his spare time, on a lunch brake, one Saturday once his real work is done.

    I feel deep gratitude for the file and every time I work on it, its an opportunity to enhance it in some small way for a specific type of wheel.

    Dude, people come here to buy the game, exploit the file, take it away and have their way with it. Its not yours, and discussions should be multi-lateral.

    Its not a place people frequent - they want to read about the files and what settings do.

    I have a saying - credit where it is due. I give so much credit, man. Bucket loads of it.

    I think your message is really strange.

    This page should be a kind and good one, but it should also be results orientated.

    The title has people on youtube using these settings, it has people just buying the game however many that is, probably hearing about it.

    If a better file can be made, lets see it. I am offering one up, and I am explaining things.

    IF I do not say it as 'race race race', you know I will pop my head back in, via tor, via any method, to say it, and there's nothing you could do about it.

    This is why my agenda is transparent.
    I COULD do that.... but am I?

    No, I am laying it all out in a solid way, and if you think my post was of little value, after 150 pages of semi decent value in places, then you need a good wake up call.

    I have literally made 2 different files.

    You want censorship. Do you know what happens to society's when they get censorship? You might want to take a trip to turkey or russia, then pop over to a british descendant country or territory like canada, australia, new zealand, usa.

    Notice any differences?


    Private conversation? You're a complete stranger. Whatever you want to say you say it out in the open.

    This file is exceptional.

    ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY...pages...let that sink in. What are you even on about? Is this you trying to regain some kind or perceived control over proceedings or something?

    Discussion should be transparent. It should be on going and not private.

    Here is an amazing file for anyone btw, nah, if you have a cog wheel or something then you may be sht-outta luck.

    I think that should be disclosed right up.

    Transparency should be happening in the open, there is no need to have 'private discussions' to spare 'feelings'. It is what it is

    - I should let you know I have increased engine revs - do you think most of these cars have the steering rack isolated, its just like daddy's lexus??

    - too bad if I can't give a decent test setup in this file.

    I swear you've never been on the back of a gixxer and felt the suspension. In a quick car, had your head pressed to the back of the seat without a chance to let it go. Thats fast.

    I can hear you now "euugh whats a gixxer got to do with it?!"

    Everything. I saw your files. You've never seen tarmac/road/track/bitchumen even come at you at 160+km's hour. You've probably never even touched it, smelt it, landed on it, had it rush at you faster and faster. You've got no idea. I am all for boosting gameplay, but there's somethings patch 1.2 don't need from a FFB file.

    Just like the other guy who reckons - RECKONS! he drove porsches and all the rest, like he's some hero - BUT he is stopping by out of the goodness of his own heart to show us his files. Meanwhile, when you plug in the files, its just a muddy mess.

    AND despite the "FACT" he drove porsches for some dude or whatever- he is soooo trustworthy that in his life all he owns is a cog wheel.

    I mean, cut me a brake, at least I had the sense to sell mine a long time ago when I knew what it was> If I wasn't being so contrary right now I would tell you to do the same on ebay and use the proceeds to put back... AND if I thought you were a cool guy, then thats why I informed you about 12 months ago... its not out of spite man, well not until you thought it was.

    fact of the matter is, wouldn't it be cool is direct drives were coming down in price? Oh and wouldn't it be cool if I TOLD YOU like 12 months ago. and not because the CEO is my buddy - he is not, but because I understand market economies, you know... [hopefully] like the one you live in.

    1 I don't know how to react to incompetence - because every time I tried to say something to the fella over 6 months was met with defensiveness.

    2 suddenly he is attacking me as he feels under threat.

    3 now you are attacking me.

    Look, mate, Vettel plays the game apparently, but I bet you a million dollars he is not wasting his time posting on here much. We watch him on youtube and tv, but he don't watch us....

    None of these wheels can replicate that. Let alone a g27. You're doing your best, but so is this file.

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    And yeah, I think a discussion about direct drive versus belt versus those cog ones (which I soon sold and got a belt; who would have thought I could have went direct drive), is not on pertinent but would be amazingly helpful for all those people out there, some there are, who visit here.

    Why you are not discussing such things I do not know, but insofar as it relates to the file it could be discussed at some point.

    I am not smarted, shocked or anything from your display. You just pulled a power play on an internet forum where it literally effects no one.

    I was busy making a file, I really don't know what to say, except to say its not even worth the breath to say it.

    If you want some kind of exclusive club, or cartel, whatever, its not useful.


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    For this file please turn down fx to around 40. Gain can be as you please, higher you like it the better, and damping can be as you like. If anyone has a better file for a belt I would love to see it some day.

    If people with belts use this file, they will be pleasantly surprised as its an updated version of the former, and in most ways supersedes that file.
     
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  5. nabelo

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    Hi,

    can you please post your ingame settings YOU are now using with this file?
    I have a T300..

    Best Regards,
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    Raceracerace Active Member

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    Hi Manuel,

    Yeah mate sure. Gain 70, 80 lfb, 40 fx, 50 dampen. But you can do a lot of what you like, eg gain 80, dampen more or less, but fx is best kept around 40-50.
     
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    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    He has reached Stakanov answering machine, is currently not in place but is keen to let people know what below:

    No my dear friend or my dear stranger ... I just said the opposite, that is to continue doing and saying what you want but in the right and minimally invasive way here ... then if you want to philosophize you can also open a whole "public" discussion yours, just the opposite of censoring or speaking in private ... modify everything you want in the file and if I share it I would have no problem using it ... even if long I have read all your posts and I have also applied your value but all the text was enough for me two lines ... but not everyone is able to follow your reasoning and here I think they confuse users. If you read my text well, even if it is joking and provocative, it is very much in your aid and not addressed only to you ... moreover my name Stakanov is as you say anonymous and I have no anxiety to be more or less famous too. because I have nothing to gain. Tomorrow I could re-subscribe and also call myself "Mr. Belts" ... and use your settings or files ... I like unstoppable types, but please NEVER FORGET TO TAKE THE PILLS, ONE IN THE MORNING, ONE IN THE AFTERNOON AND AN EVENING!!! :D

    Do not leave a message after the beep!!! :p
     
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    Raceracerace Active Member

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    Its just silly stakanov. I know I can be verbose, but you wouldn't even address a single point and your entire thing has no credibility, claims, or anything. Please, man, push off with that kind of crap. Your whole thing didn't require a post about it. This is not twitter.
     
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    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I love to behave like others do ... and deep down I love you but you don't believe me ... I'm heartbroken!!! :)
    But please continue to be verbose ... it turns me on and will make me famous!!! :D
     
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    Just to be clear, I have nothing against anyone, I do not know how you think or feel about me, and I am not saying this in order to change your opinion; but I won't be walking around with hate or dislike in my heart or mind or thinking much of all this anyway, its all good, its not something I think worthwhile doing, but I will defend my own ideas, but won't be dwelling on it. I have taken some things on board out of respect but don't expect a whole lot of mad self reflection or whatnot, its all good, I will have forgotten it in short time don't worry.

    You're an ok guy I have nothing against you. I try not to make super long posts, but one now and then won't hurt the forum too much, and I know the longer they are etc etc, its a problem in word count I have. I am trying to make a little bit of an effort in the posts so as to educate even a little bit anyone who comes by.

    NO. I do not expect them to read it all, its meant to be documentation, of a sort. Its just a casual hobby, mate, nothing need to get worked up over.

    This file is literally as close I would think, but happy to be proven wrong, I can get to the ACC feel combined with an AMS2 flavor and we all know by now how good the madness engine and reiza are getting, which means I already enjoy it as much as raceroom and think all told its surpassed every other sim in at least engagement of the road. I like a solid center and smooth transition to turns. Hey, I wish it was a direct drive but its a really good wheel nonetheless. I am happy with the result, but understand maybe its not to everyone's cup of tea.

    The standard I live by with these things, a person drives a lousy car - they don't want to drive it. They can't wait to get home.

    A person rides a really cool motorbike or even an average one - they don't want to stop.

    A person drives an amazing car, a race car, or a really comfortable and good car with a fair wack of power by comparison, same situation. Sure, in the last example each one of us just use cars to go from A to B usually, but a great car - such as in the game, you don't want to stop.

    This is how I want my FFB. This file is coming close. I like lapping in this thing and appreciate the paradigms in each sim, so I try to put the best into this as well. I like racing in this file as well.

    But yeah most of the credit goes to the game, not me. I am just putting into the file what I know I like.
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    Might as well put the file again at the bottom of this post,

    My current settings are 70 gain, 80 lfb, 50 fx, 50 dampen. I recommend starting with those. Please limit FX to 40-50, maybe 60, as too much and it can oscillate at high speeds a little more than you may like, but its not bad. With those settings, if you have a 3-4Nm wheel such as a TX, or abouts that, you will find its really good.

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  11. Shriukan

    Shriukan Touristenfahrten Community AMS2 Club Member

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    A gentle reminder to everyone wanting to have a wall-of-text-free experience that they can put individuals on the Ignore list by clicking their name. It saves your scroll wheel from premature wear and improves your forum experience exponentially.
     
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    Raceracerace Active Member

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    But he never does. He does pop his head up all the time saying ' you can ignore this fella', sounds like his way of staying relevant. Funny that.

    Well, you all know you can try what he is missing out on.
     
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    Micropitt Mediocre driver doing mediocre laps AMS2 Club Member

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    The ignore feature also prevents you from screaming out loud and spitting on your computer monitor. :rolleyes:
     
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  14. Raceracerace

    Raceracerace Active Member

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    And just on that - don't make out like I am this "pariah.

    The photo of yourself is at the hairdressers all alone. Yet you don't have hair, and you're telling people to ignore people. But of course, lets be gentle....its the pop word of all your lives

    Got to be gentle to shriuken, he is a vulnerable poor fellow. etc etc - he is always there to say "you know that race race race guy..." yeah, him... " well put him on ignore"

    I am all he ever wants to talk about.

    lol when it comes to these things, if this is what I have to get through in order to get out a file that is seriously better than anything I have seen to date, then so be it.
     
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    lol micro pitt. how apt. I can see you like a bit of grandstanding yourself. And I can see you, and like a big boy with my big boy pants on, am prepared to say it, albeit, online, but just goes to show how petty and small minded you are.

    But see, thats it. I can do things in a cool and controlled manner, unless its a serve worth serving, but no, all you can do is hand out low blows all the time.

    I think we know who is in charge here. I say something and you girls react. But what we know should happen is just talking about the file....I don't like puppets just critical thinkers.
     
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    I'm using Kuku Maddog file for T300 and I'm impressed with it. Thanks all the people contributing for your time and thanks Kuku you've been very helpful mate cheers.
     
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    Thats great man, kuku put a bit of work into that file. You'd be like the second person in recent memory, and at this opportune time, to be saying his file was good.

    Unfortunately I found it muddy and lacking in some areas, others not so, but overall I was left thinking we had to change the paradigm now the game was post 1.2 and our wheels, frankly, could do a lot better than that.

    Its caused me to make my own file. When I asked him what it was with the file, he said it should work. I then said maybe his wheel was in need of repair, because it was so muddy, and well who knows after that.

    I have a tx, which should handle anything a t300 can do and more, and I found it lacking as I was saying - to which he then said upon me saying he should get a direct drive and chuck that out - he said he was working towards getting the direct drive.

    I myself didn't use his file since then. And I set out to make a file that was clear and impactful, fun, exhilarating, smooth, responsive. The kind of file that says one more lap. The way I rate files is, well, mine... I did make it in my own preference afterall, then reiza's custom, then the custom, then the default, with nary a hair between them, but I do believe my file is out in front by a margin.

    If you do not like a file, do not hesitate to try the games own custom file, this custom file by Karsten and co, or anyone else's as I assume you already tried the default - but you could stand to try that again. There's files I simply don't rate, but I have to be transparent. The default is truly up there with the best of them, its surpassed many efforts in the past few months. I know thats not something people in the 'custom files' section like to hear, but its true.

    What happened with the custom-customs was severely derivative. BTW there is no town called coo coo, so lets just assess claims for a little bit, and I do not think there were Porsche's' driven but like anyone we've seen on boards. All those guys did was minorly alter a few variable and made a worse paradigm in Karsten's file as the game developed over time.

    Its nothing special. You could of done it, but no, we could not do the custom file. The credi goes to Karsten. Lo and behold this was more reason than ever to make a new paradigm and one based not on trying to 'coach' out a few more bumps (as if the reiza default is horrible, just use that)... but one that goes in another complimentary direction to the default in game.

    And no one was making files for belts. Anyone can add a .01 to a number to make a few more bumps.

    I like a couple of things in people, such as males, you look for courage, resilience, patience, creativity, resourcefulness. Because I was simply not seeing many of these quality's I knew there were no chances being taken, and I decided to take one chance. Otherwise it can be, a person chickened out - a person left money on the table - a person missed the girl he liked - a person didn't create something worth preserving, etc etc etc..

    Guys, I am not in err here. This lol 'saurapodMustard', and NO mate! lol its NOT a euphemism to jizz, alright, its just an animal name and a food name. Its not like that other guy's name who reckoned coo coo was a town and his dog was mad, thats just a name, or something, but there is no town called coo coo... or the one where you name yourself after your street and your pets first name, like is this the 80s?... the file I made is one of the best files going to date - I've tried them all. Its not bogged down in the battle to extract an extra bump or something. Its highly precise, its smooth, its got detail, its clear, its the goods. And like any good drive, you know its good, that your car is 'sweet' or your motorbike is hellafun - when you get to your destination, but you don't wanna stop.
     
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    Actually, screw it, I gotta do this:

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    Wow, I bet this is really helping out your mind issues. Wouldn't want you to get the jitters. Just remember, about ethics, take the courageous choice. Its not always sticking it to the man. I am sorry for you, brother, and I also pity you a little. Don't worry, I will not be trying to make your situation worse ok

    Just remember your 7 stages of grief; all you did was trade your agency on your supposed personal issues for an excuse to use against strangers on line, which I think is a cop out any way and says more about you than me; none of us want to be your wet tissue. So... you've tried bargaining...right.

    Or maybe you were in denial - because the man from 'kuku', probably hasn't driven a car in a long time, if at all. Any one can 'up' the bump scale. There's nothing wrong with the guy, he's probably a beach bum or something, though in NZ living on the beach is no mean feat, the best economical/living standards happen in their cities. Of which they have 2

    I got something for you as well. A better file than the one you're currently using.

    Now try acceptance. This is an update to further help our t300 associates.

    Belt wheels and the like are the volume sellers but that may not always be so. The tx and t300 users etc have to accept (on top of the other acceptance for that fellow) the development won't always favor you, and you have to adjust. Thus this is why a file like this exists. It may not be the fastest rack in the world ok, but the truth is, its ticking more boxes than the other files I tried.

    My settings for this one I had to change 70 gain, 70 lfb, 40 fx , 100 damper.

    You can go either side on some but 100 damper seems excellent for most cars.
    Try the gte porsche at 24 hour nords - then I promise you, the meme is a self inflicted uppercut on your own person as the saying goes. You stepped right into it - but this is just words and jokes I know I know, I am just saying you will be pretty happy as a t500 users or similar.

    And this being the internet for all we know you ARE kuku - and if you see him, tell him thanks, to begin with I was only concerned with the rack feel. But we all know karsten didn't make a bung file.

    edit: now added second file, higher grip loss feel (normalized); but you may want to tweak that slightly lower and I, too will look at it over time its really good though). On a green track, as you would expect. etc etc. Now the settings are completely dialed-in, I will turn my attention to the grip loss, but its something you can do too. 0.01>0.02. Or maybe you like 0.015 which is its linear progression. 0.2 was more mathematical though as I suspect the rack being heavier (but fast) accounts for this.

    ? - What I mean is yes, 0.1 you can barrell through and there is still slip but it won't affect your wheel so much - for .2 you need to double pump that wheel correction a fair bit on a green track in the rocco (it can also take 360 degree wheel inputs sometimes which is a good car to test on); this is going at a high speed and not running off the track at all. In the GTE porsche, you should have no problem. Another thing I am looking for is the diff doing its thing. If I can turn with wheel inputs that is fine, but a major factor in getting the world record at a track or two in other cars, has been the diff/higher average speed AND dicing either side of the grip/slip angles just right for the higher average speed. Other guys were not pushing the car enough. I am trying to push these cars. So I guess it will be more forgiving. Hence why its weighted higher. - now maybe it should be trimmed, but a double pump, countering, and letting off the throttle or modulating the throttle, trail brake, or braking keeps you there at the threshold. So the game is forgiving 'around' it in terms of going on either side of it, is the worst you could say of it all (plus lots of cars/tracks, got to be probably), its quite good, but not like this is cheating, its not. BUT if you think you would like it lower, its ok if you want that too.

    I will upload a version soon with 1.65 as the value - this is important, because the file is literally DOWN BOYS! wow, down to one constant, lol. Its good. So at 0.165 you will feel like its a computer game but its like you're going fast and you will marvel like you do, at how amazing a rocco (in this example) is good at getting you from one spot to another with such precision. At .2 yes it makes you work more but its harder to pull off on a wheel of this caliber.

    ^>> The test was a good one. Nord, 5 degree morning, heavy rubber (base line set at green track), race day, 20 cars, rocco, set up well, wait 20 seconds, AI 84 (they are too fast, and baseline checked) Hit it. And we go racing - and can I catch up. Temps low, tires cold, grip increasing, half way through lap I catch up. Let me tell you that was a good run. I wanted to know if pushing it, one could catch up and the rack was allowing me to do all the little corrections properly and it seems so. 0.165 for this file in particular. I mean, you know in terms of gameplay balance it can't just be easy or hard, or well the slip he didn't feel, or the slip didn't help. This was enough. So if you want that aspect of the files, and there's 3 levels, low, medium, 'true', its not high as in too much. Its in the zone. I have labelled the files, then you would want to download the 165 at the end.
     
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