Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Again, yes the length of the above post, but you know it was necessary. My length, basically means we can then say something very short.

The 165 file is so good, the race I ran out of fuel basically on the third lap, but the game is so good, so dynamic, such slippage on either side of the lines, it could be called Rocco Challenge at the nordschleife lol or something like that, and you'd be pleased, with just 1 track and car.

 

@Raceracerace Just a suggestion mate but why don't you create your own dedicated thread? I've nothing against you and others have clearly benefited from your testing, feedback and recommendations, at least where your specific wheel type is concerned. (I'm using an SC1 DD)

However wading through and skipping over huge wads of text is off-putting and I now find myself avoiding what used to be a quick and interesting daily catch up as @Karsten Hvidberg's files developed and received a bit of feedback.

This isn't an attempt at censorship. Far from it and no offence is meant. Just a suggestion to present and consolidate such specific and detailed information, which you clearly spend a lot of time preparing, in it's own place, where it can get the attention it deserves. It'll surely also help others, who specifically follow the tuning and testing you undertake.

Cheers!

 

What the living sweeet mother mary fark are you on about? Every single word was about force feed back.

Well thats your major first world problem, then, isn't it. Well, I am glad people are benefiting. I am benefiting. Of course its off putting, you only care about yourself where I care about the dissemination of information.

See, thats it. You said it yourself. Quick, daily? Doing what - learning what? Hello... the game is not/was not realistic. Its not something I want to put into such words, when it needs explanation, man!

I am happy with my custom file, I hope you and others are too if you or they use it, but don't hate me because I know a thing or two and see a wide derth of information. For heavens sake, a guy who apparently lives near a beach in nz, with ONE road in and out of town is the expert who was doing all those noisy files! and claiming it was 'kosher'. Then he said he drove porsches and its a total farce.

Do you really think someone who lives next to a beach (in nz, mate, ok, not in western croatia, queensland, California, etc etc) and trys to make noisy files with muddy features is going to come up with a good file? Oh and that someone drives Porches.

That guy gave me a hard time for some reason. lol

J Broadbent does a video and reckons its not good (the whole game), I do a custom file and reckon it wasn't good until I did the file then its better. lol

What the flying mother - sweet mary of jee... (thats just for effect) do you think those guys were doing for 150 pages, bro?

I HAD to write that much - and to be honest struggle (apparently) to make it interesting. Dang... lol

Im not mad, man, I am trying to be funny. I am glad I made a clear file after 150 pages (that you waded through to no great gain), then came here to see my posts and believe its great...well, its been my experience thats how it all goes down, and I am not mad at the workers of this file, you guys are cool, sure, this is just a game people, perspective - but just remember yes physics and math can describe the universe accurately.

I don't think there's a message really in that, except to say now the file is done I won't have to come here and keep fking with it. Oh yes. Models. Something about models.

Thats right. We know MORE about evolution than we do about gravity. Interesting isn't it.

Oh I see micropit is again living and receding according to the content of my posts. I must be in his head lol... hey bro - Jordan was like this, getting into the heads of those who oppose - except he had a reason - ooops, I did it again...?

 

Hey btw congratulations kukumadog, who beat the record at laguna by a whole second. Undoubtedly using my file lol. I don't know probably - but also undoubtedly. But to nail that first corner and with the current physics probably, but can't see the setup, is the thing I did 5 times at least but didn't put it all together in one lap. Cool stuff. Just a proof of concept, didn't mean to wrest the record from him - I remember how I first mentioned that course and he rushed off to break the record/set the record. Wow man, cherish it. It always helps to follow the ghost of the faster car at the time. Thats sim racing. well done.

Yes yes, sure I knew to make the rack planted and all that. Its a proud day. That car could only possibly do that based on my less bumpy/muddy but still bumpy, planted rack. Precision from last time increased manifold. Yuh. Manifold. It takes you to do it.

 

god damn you are tireless with the "rhetorics" ...

 

If we were on whatsapp chat the status of this user would always be "Raceracerace is writing the same message ...."


I forgot, get ready for the next answer initially of 5 lines, then edited to 10 and finally it will become 50 lines of text with another file named SauroMostardCock attached at the end

 

And there I was trying to offer a reasonable suggestion, offered in good faith, to ensure that the FFB information you are providing, specifically for your wheel type, is disseminated in the most effective way possible and to the widest audience who stand to benefit the most. It's deserving of that, would make searching for it easier and it wasn't a criticism because, despite page after page of your oft-repeated 'War and Peace' efforts, I applaud your dedication.

But you completely miss the point and instead of reacting reasonably, launch in to yet another lengthy tirade of complete and utter bollocks because it doesn't fit your narrative.

 

@Karsten Hvidberg @Panos Schoino @Shadak

I may have found a minor typo in scrub section of file.

(F_scrub (+ (* 0.15 (sin (* 1.9 F_scrubP))) (* 0.1 (sin (* 2.23 R_scrubP))) (* 0.4 F_curve1_now)))
(R_scrub (+ (* 0.15 (sin (* 1.9 R_scrubP))) (* 0.1 (sin (* 2.23 R_scrubP))) (* 0.4 R_curve1_now)))

It has a R in the line that looks like it should be F
when changing to F , it feels make quite a noticeable difference to cornering stability especially low speed turns.
I think this has been in files for some time.

please confirm ?

 

Just put him on ignore. I did. My god, the guy will not be quiet and he totally hijacked this thread. The forum and this thread in particular are much nicer now that I can't see any of his posts

 

Nice catch Kuku!
Def. a typo or copy paste error on my side.

-K

 

Now we need Raceracerace to write a 4000 word essey on what a typo means and how it actually happens in the brain, is it even real? Are people even real? Who are we?

 

That explains why I felt scrub has been a bit strange lately
(Looks like typo was introduced in rFuktor 4.3)

 

Hey Kuku,

can you please paste in here how it should look the correct way?

Best regards,
Manuel

 

Just change that Red R to an F.

 

arrhahaha. its got to be accompanied by something. we all have our foibles

nah. Mustard is mustard man.

whatsapp why u use that - its cross pollinating facebook data. way to get ripped.

this one had venom. hrm. and from a monk.

but your wheel is no better. Hijacked? 150 pages of not much going on, I turn up and suddenly the ffb is better than ever. lol.. how little you understand. back to your safe space harmony seeker

Is this how you ignore me!? Jelly I can turn out a good file. Those sauropods, sitting atop the coniferous layers, turning into coal, maybe diamond, are rolling in their oily graves.

Its like the guy said - do you think a company that makes fast and the furious computer game and its basically a 100 dollar sham - could make a serious racing simulator game engine? You spent 150 pages going round in circles - heck karsten had to remodel the file several times. My file is basically the only file worth using now, or at least the standard settings for a belt. Failing that, the default/in game custom

 

Ohhh good, better, you've seen that the pills start to take effect ... you have been more concise, you have attached only one file and you have been a little less violent this time ... and you have also beaten Kuku, also finding a fault of typo, damn mustard!!!

My real wish is that in the future you can be concise and constructive with the next files of Karsten & Co., even if in disagreement with someone, so that the forum can appreciate what your feelings and suggestions are ... .we hope, we can do it!!!
Do not make me regret it ... as an answer I just need your little heart on this message if you like!!!

 

Is the Above error Applicable to the latest High end file?

ta

J

 

As to can the fix be applied latest file - yes it can

Firstly thank you haha very much. All in good spirit, and myself in earnest to be sure. But sorry man I am not doing negotiations by ultimatums, as kind as they are presented with thinly veiled attacks.

You've already wasted my time over 150 pages. I am not sure you get it, pal.

If I ever leave this site, I will come back from time to time and remind you of this fact for as long as I am playing AMS2. - lol - and you cannot be serious, you can't read a few pages.

Whatever. But please get over this nonsense about violence online. Its gaslighting me or misconstruing me - I may have been up front and direct, but it was not 'violent'. People live by their ideas. All I saw were file after files of noisy bumpy stuff. Maybe it was lambasting, but don't take it to heart. You can say I don't have the right but what makes you guys right.

Regarding length: No. Its not. Its simply more defined than ever. After the foundational stuff is done there is no need to redo such lengthy things. And people who could either not articulate that, or bother to spell it out. Oh I know its futile but why not cover a few bases. We have a bunch of madness engine titles out there with a combined user base of something like 800 concurrent users at any one time across or something - one with as low as 2 people concurrently, one with as high as maybe 500. And AMS2.

Thats why they probably needed Reiza, to get sold. They kept making sim-community-determined "crappy products" with fun and stars and credits to get picked up by codies or whatever they had an ambition for, and reiza would begin the serious work - its why AMS2 is basically Pcars2 content re-sold (this is what studios do when they want to get bought - they try to get the attention of their target). Is it any wonder the didn't really get on with the community. Not sure if chicken/egg there in terms of selling to the community since I think the sim-above-all-else nature of the segment is a little fictitious. When a person sits down to play they want to enjoy themselves. All I was getting from files were vibrations.

I am not fully sure what sort of progression in that area/ next level stuff reiza need to do with setups and custom files etc, to be taken more seriously or 'gel with' the simming community. This file is just my experience on doing that for this belt drive, is all.

My file bucks all those trends and whatnot and really dials it down. Its not a re-sold experience of force feed back. Gaming stocks were just one revenue source for them at SMS probably, I am not trying to be a snob - I didn't mind Pcars2 for a time once I came late to the party on it. Absolutely and felt I got my money out of it. It was on sale and its not like I played it forever, a month or so but isn't that the case with most titles. At the same time got to ask why its got more users than AMS2.

Thus my file had to strike the balance. Its lowered bumps and curbs etc to be in line with the equal/expected forces for a belt drive (and it feels good), and increased road-surface awareness rather than noise, the tracks are very good these days for that. Its emphasized front feel and turning feel and downforce. You can call my file - simcade or something - I want to point out that I feel this file is literally the best possible belt file at this moment in time. And that I have not used a sim game at any point and had as much enjoyment as with patch 1.2 and this file for particular cars at particular tracks.

Where possible I tried to give exact setups, cars, tracks, conditions. lmfao. Then you get a video from a popular youtuber who would much rather it just be set up - well he was saying its all rather too much and no one would be prepared to help a person out, clearly. Aw don't gaslight me you lot. I know how good this file is, I know what settings for camera, what values. Its probably not everyone's cup of tea but hey.

The length is more of an "andromeda affect" than me liking the sound of my own keystrokes.

 

Ok I was deluded the pill was expired ... you are really to be subjected to mandatory health treatment ... the population of my ignored users is 1 ... bye bye Raceracerace!!!

 

I apologize guys and Reiza ... initially I tried to ignore the troll attitude of this subject ... when it became unstoppable and with so little respect towards everyone (especially towards Kuku) I could no longer ignore it and the criticisms useless against those who gave us so much for free with the FFB files they triggered the protectionist spring ... let's be clear, no one asked me to defend anyone, the choice was mine, but I do not tolerate bullying against anyone and I deluded myself that he could understand (although I certainly did not remain to suffer it) ... unfortunately it was not so.
I specify that in the post above my joke on the typing correction meant that "kuku was useful and made a functional correction on the file while the other corrected the word mustard" (maybe I shouldn't have approached the comparison) so, if not I had been legible I send my apologies also to Kuku but I think you understand.
I will not occupy this topic anymore, I have more middle-aged and big shoulders, no matter if that person threatens me and he will return here under another name to be angry with me ... I just hope we can return to normal with the space they deserve compilers of the FFB file!!!
Sorry