Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Update on the big file:

A smoothing function has been missed(at least by me) for a while in AMS2.
After Reiza's downgrade on the ffb update rate the ride has felt even more rough than ever, so @NuScorpii 's discovery of persisting state between runs could not have come at a better time

Now it is simple stuff to add something like well-controlled smoothing functionality.

* Merged NuScorpii's Sigmoid stuff for the rack.
* Added smooth function. Rack force final result now a combination of the the last 3 runs, based on specific weights.

If you want to change the smoothing you can go to the "Smooth rack" section & adjust.

Custom FFB file attached "Smooth Rider":

 

Okay , i have no idea what you just said or how i am supposed to change or what it changes ! Im not sure why im so slow at understanding what is being said here but i be confused ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Heh, don't worry, it's more for people who want to make their own files. There's nothing to change here for an end user.

 

Hi Cully,

Yes, they are.
Clipping is dealt with and in the big file clipping is guaranteed to not happen no matter how you put your sliders too.

So go ahead
In the big file there is a setting you can define to specify your wheel base, that is prob. importantfor your wheel base if you use that file.

Cheers!

 

Thanks mate
I tried the big file (smooth rider) i set road rumble and engine enhance to 0.0 and put a 1.0 in for my CSWv2 and used the recommended 70/65/75, it feels good i guess but still a lot of noise , grain vibrations from track surface and i guess its scrub from understeer .
Do you know how i can just get simple wheel getting light when understeering or locking brakes instead of the grain scrub feeling and remove the track vibrations ? In older builds even if i didnt feel the rumble of the track surface i still could feel dips , lumps , crests and had a good feel for a bumpy track but now it just feels like artificial track vibration

 

Yes, the rumble effect can be disabled at the top: "road_rumble_fx" set it to 0.0.
Reg. the scrub try changing:
(sf_s 0.55) to (sf_s 0.70)
and
(sr_s 0.52) to (sr_s 0.65)

Cheers!

 

hm, still using one of your old files and am fine with it. can feel the road much better than with the new one, but i guess it is a matter of personal taste. thanks for your efforts.

 

@NuScorpii

I tested "Heavy Messing" last night and find it to work extremely well with my SC1 DD-wheel. It seems to have removed the tendency for what "chunky" factor remains in the FFB (with cars that have a tendency to bounce), resulting in FFB that really feels seamless now.

Thank you for sharing your work!

 

I tried rumblefx at 0 but the crazy rattling is still present. I tested the F3 301 at Donington. I think it has to do with the car and maybe the track as I've tried several of your files and nothing can remove the rattling. Ffb overall feels great though, thanks.

 

Ah, then lower your in-game FX, possibly to down around 50, if you have it high.
That should work!

 

These files are well-loved by the sounds of it, and there have been so many iterations; super impressive that some people have the ability to highly customize the experience. I have not attempted testing a single one since they are updated at a faster rate than builds come out

Might I suggest separate threads in the fashion of LEXXVR's custom files... respectfully, of course. It seems now with two standalone files that this could be simpler for the slow guys (like myself). One could just go to the thread of the author, maybe those authors could append the most recent iteration by date to the OP etc etc. This way not only could the suggestions for changes or specific questions be separated by thread, thereby reducing the complexity to follow along...but the advice for further tuning could be separated and easier to follow as well. A polite reminder that the previous thread ran up to 70+ pages, surely burying lots of pertinent and valuable information in the process..

@NuScorpii @Karsten Hvidberg

This could surely be an awful suggestion. In which case simply ignoring this post would suffice, rather than sparking a hotly contested internet debate.

 

Thank you , will try tomorrow now , i need sleep . Thanks mate

 

That was with fx down to zero. Just did a race at Donnington in a stock car, what great ffb feeling thanks! No rattling in those cars. Still think the f3s and possibly other formula cars need some work.

 

Don't worry mate it's not just you who feels a bit thick when looking at the intricacies !

 

They are working on two standalone files, so I thought it might be okay to suggest separate threads. Thanks for the heads up.

 

Hey kkdrummer,

Maybe try this one, it's simpler(closer to default, but still with most things in place & might work well for you for now in those places "Simply Smooth":

 

The smaller NuScorpii version is always available in post #3, along with a full changelog. Personally, I think it would make life much easier for Karsten to do the same for the large version, in post #2. That way people could get the latest files and know what has been changed without having to backtrack through numerous, confusing posts.

Anyway, took a break from AMS 2 for a while so have only just had a chance to try the files since they were separated. I have to say that for me, @NuScorpii has got it spot on with the simplified file. While I have never been a fan of Reiza's three-slider zero-customisation approach, I wasn't a fan of the PCars 50 slider approach either. For me that's where the large file is now. It's just trying to be too clever, doing too much, providing vast number of variables which most end-users won't really understand the meaning of, despite the vague descriptions. Great overall achievement, but not for me. It actually felt somewhat worse than the default profile on my T300 too, and I have no interest in spending hours messing with all those variables to try and get it feeling any good.

But Heavy Messing feels excellent and for me does just what I want it to. It improves the overall FFB in a significant but relatively subtle manner, and provides roughly the same level of customisation you see in other sims without bamboozling the end-user. I barely needed to tweak anything, and using 80/40/50 in-game, it feels fantastic. Great job mate!

 

Cfst,

It's ok, I've got 2 projects, wife & 3 kids going on in my life already & really have no time for this, so will stop posting shortly anyways

Cheers!

 

Ah! This is why the wheel has a short delay before the FFB kicks in and begins to tighten up as you drive! I noticed this immediately when trying this file yesterday. Really good stuff you have going here. It's a different feel from the big file, but I like the differences between the two flavours to be honest.

 

I hope that doesn't happen but, know that your work here is appreciated.