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Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Hi Stakanov,

    I am not quite sure. I would think to lower LFB would be the only good way.
    But will try and think a little about it.

    v4.6 is on the doorstep, so would not be until v4.7, I think.
    But a better approach is to order one of those csl dd's :)
     
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  2. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Thanks as always for the answer @Karsten Hvidberg ... I think, as we have already written here on the forum in the past, that the oscillation is also partly due to the physics still to be optimized (even if it is strongly improving), but regardless, the phenomenon is now mainly limited to Formula cars (Ultimate, Reiza, Gen.2-1, ....) and particularly swaying cars, while it is very negligible on most of the remaining cars (Gt3-4-5, P1 -2-3, ...).
    Undoubtedly the lower LFB would help, but my G920 grinder with high LFB values gets excited and believes itself to be a DD :p ... in short, between the two defects, better the oscillation of a full steering wheel that I have to hold with one hand, instead of having a very empty steering wheel that I can drive without hands on the straights ;)... and then no hands where I have to go for the walk, to the waterfront??? :D

    In the meantime, in addition to the changes in the previous Mix MuscleFactor + 4.4 file, I lowered the spring force from 1.0 to 0.05 and raised the smoth relative to the rack_momentum from 0.01 to 0.015 and a little re-tuning ... I haven't solved it, but the peaks of this oscillation have improved a lot!!! ;)

    # Rack spring
    (steer_spring_strength 0.05)
    # Smooth slightly
    (rack_momentum (smooth rack_momentum 0.015))


    For the rest I am very happy :cool:

    Values used in game 90-90-65-0 su quasi tutte le auto.

    EDIT: I haven't optimized the karts!!!
    EDIT2: I thought a lot about placing the order of csl dd's!!! :whistle:
     

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  3. AndreiC

    AndreiC Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    No need to fight your destiny, place the order :))!
     
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  4. Dolphin

    Dolphin New Member

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    Hi, in your sig for the FFB file is a Thrustmaster TS PC a low end wheel. So many custom files doing the rounds have no idea which one to select for my TS PC. Thanks!
     
  5. AndreiC

    AndreiC Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Try starting with my "mash-up" file as Stakanov put it :)!
     

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  6. AndreiC

    AndreiC Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I had some time to test these new values and I can confirm they feel better, thx, Porsche GTE at Laguna Seca...pure bliss now, I can play as much as I like with the car it will not kill me :D!
    Regarding previous versions of the file I could not enjoy it more than the old NuScorpii file and this only changed with 4.4 version for me.
    So definitely now the file is good for low/mid range wheels to.
     
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  7. Chris Horsley

    Chris Horsley New Member

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    Since the last AMS2 update 1.2.08 I have found I need to boost the FX slider in game, to get the same feeling was at 35 now running 40
     
  8. nabelo

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    Hi Kuku,

    thank you for the Infos about this.
    But i have one question for this mod.
    Do you also use those "603ZZ (3x9x5 mm)" bearings for the plastic rollers?
    I dont like the idea to fill up the space with washers if you use those bearings.
    Or can you stack up two of them and don't use any washers at all?
    I saw some pictures of the mod which look like they stack up two or three of those bearings to rerplace one plastic roller. But im not sure which dimensions those bearings have.
    A solution without any washers would be cool.

    Best regards,
    Manuel
     
  9. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    All the latest files share the same original Karsten base (in version 4.4 / 4.5 or the recent MuscleFuktorUpdate or the latest Mix) ... for medium/low bases you can test my latest file above (or in my signature), or one of the files of the users @Peter Stefani, @Kuku Maddog and the "mesh-up tuning" of @AndreiC (there are also others that maybe I forget and I apologize) ... only your taste is right, nobody can replace yours sensations ... unfortunately you can only test and decide ... the 4.4/4.5/MuscleFactor you find them on the first/second page, for the last you have to go back in this and the last 3-4 pages of the discussion!!! ;)
     
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  10. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    yeah they stack up, I only brought 4 but don’t even think I could have squeezed third one on shaft without being difficult to get spring clip back on. If you could find a 4mm width you would be fine or even a combination of 5 & 3mm might work. As long as inside diameter is 3mm and outside diameter 9mm you can find what ever width you can to fit.
     
  11. Marnus Zwarts

    Marnus Zwarts Boost Creep AMS2 Club Member

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    :eek: I'm running at 65 - 70
    But that's on 50 FFB in game and 60 on the CSL whell, FEI 100 and FOR 80
     
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  12. Marnus Zwarts

    Marnus Zwarts Boost Creep AMS2 Club Member

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    How can I increase the ffb load under breaking? It just adds a little extra immersion.
     
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  13. nabelo

    nabelo New Member

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    So if i understand you correctly you stacked up two bearings with a with of 5mm (603ZZ) and you dont use any washers?
     
  14. nabelo

    nabelo New Member

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    Huh?! What do you mean?
     
  15. RoloFuentes

    RoloFuentes Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Thanks!!! Will try it as soon as I get home!
     
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  16. Marnus Zwarts

    Marnus Zwarts Boost Creep AMS2 Club Member

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    lol sorry man, my browser is acting up! Was meant for @Chris Horsley
     
  17. TheNormalOne

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    Your ingame settings largely coincide with my long used and therefore I have tested your file and with slight adjustments at tighten range and tighten falloff everything works very well on my G27, thanks for that.
     
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  18. Micropitt

    Micropitt Mediocre driver doing mediocre laps AMS2 Club Member

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  19. Chris Horsley

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    depends on your wheel, I am using a Simucube 2 Pro
     
  20. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    I think they where MR93 micro bearings, I used some spring washers as that’s what was handy at the time. haven’t had any problems.
    the original plastic rollers are 10mm long, but have free play.
    it just comes down to what you can source.
     

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