Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. Fizzy

    Fizzy Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Just popping in to say that the delta x tune is superb IMO. Absolutely love it. Using 75/0/35/45 on my CSL DD. Thanks @Kuku Maddog, great work. :)
     
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  2. R00bDriver

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    Dude, is this your FFB file?

    It's brilliant

    I find that I can really feel the back end of the car more, I can feel it stepping out and under braking - it just makes much more sense!

    Thank you for putting your own time into this, it's really very very good :D
     
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  3. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    I’m pleased it’s working well for you.
    The magic comes from Karstens incredible momentum rack and the rFuktor mix.
    The rest is just tuning the sound, anyone can do it.
     
  4. R00bDriver

    R00bDriver Member

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    Well in that case, massive thanks to Karstens as well!

    Thanks again :)
     
  5. Chip

    Chip Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    @Kuku Maddog Thank you so much for sharing your continued fine tuning of the files with us! So, which file is the most recent (or most recently updated) one? I see some recommendations as far as code changes go, but when you get a moment, can you repost the version your currently running? Or better yet, a high-end version if there has been one? I’m really looking forward to trying it out on my SC2 Pro!
     
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    newtonpg Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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  7. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Hi Chip.
    Sure thing here is the files for each that reflect the minor changes I've been finding good, but hadnt heard if others liked.
    I haven't run with new update yet and will have to see if the tire tread changes impact like they have sometimes in the past, but sounds minor .
    will update original post .

    **Edited for correction to experimental steer ratio value
    should've been
    (ratio_scale (/ steer_ratio 8))
    in T300 file, no change to high end needed
     

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  8. AndreiC

    AndreiC Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Unfortunately I did not have time to test your latest improvements but for the previous version I use I found increasing (suspension_scale 1.1) from 0.7 is a must for me, it really helps feeling more connected to the car.
     

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  9. chonk

    chonk Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Look forward to trying this AndreiC, I've been using your tweaked versions for a while now and for me at least they are always spot on.
     
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  10. AxisMagi

    AxisMagi Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Bravo Kuku! Cracked the centering code indeed. With car properly setup can finally
    throttle steer on the limit like the real deal. Super stoked, thanks for your work and
    collaboration to figure this out, I think Karsten will be pleased.

    AMS2 is getting really good, have notice the great AI improvements.
    I was running your v2.0 with Formula Reiza at Spa and agree it works well with
    higher power steering running 40-50 with high down force cars. Now going to try
    v2.1 and see the difference.

    Just tried it and definitely like the previous version a lot better. With the High End version
    and Simucube2 DD. your v2.1 feels hollow and details too sharp, not sure how else
    to describe, didn't have the smooth filled in feel. I can see how this could
    happen when tuning with a T500 wheel as there is a lot more wiggle room. I have both wheels and the difference is staggering. It's probably very difficult to tune the high end file without
    testing on a DD rig, you should get one you wont be disappointed! I really like the v2.0 file.

    I'm also not feeling front tire lock up, going to try brake feel parameter, any other suggestions?
    Scrub?
     
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  11. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    thanks for the feedback, that seems odd that there a significant difference between v2 & 2.1 as the changes are so minor and shouldn’t effect the overall experience outside of oversteer situation. I’ll have to check it.
    I generally don’t run a lot of powersteer and get could brake feel .

    Edit: Just did a back to back test of high end versions and they feel pretty much the same as expected, are you sure you weren't running the smoother T300 file beforehand ?

    I’m joining the high class soon enough, maybe in about a month, have a Simagic Alpha mini on pre order. .
     
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  12. AxisMagi

    AxisMagi Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Yup you were right but something strange. I just tested again and had the same loss of rack feeling with 2.1, took out power steering from the equation and same deal. Then tried the 2.0 and had the rack feeling back, then tried 2.1 again and it worked as similar to 2.0. So not sure why happening, some quirk with the file loading perhaps. Glad to hear your getting a sweet DD. :)
     
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  13. Magnus

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    I’m also using the new CSL DD and @Kuku Maddog Delta X file - I just wanted to say thanks to both of you. Your settings were a brilliant starting point, i dropped down to 65/0/35/45. I’m not sure if 6/7 weeks of not driving or the extra power of the 8nm version over my old CSL Elite made it a shade too powerful for me (maybe I’ll end up bumping it back up once I’m back in the swing of things) but it feels superb.

    The centring feels spot on too, wheelbase or file (or both?) I’m not sure but it feels fantastic.


    …..just need to get my braking back on track. It’s scary how far off the pace you can drop after a few weeks away.
     
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  14. Jason Pladoh

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    Hi,

    A Big thankyou to all involved in this tuning file, It's made AMS2 really enjoyable for me. :)

    I've read through the Delta x v2 file, and made a change for the kerb bumps, as I was getting Yeeted across the room if I got Aggressive on the Kerbs.

    My only gripe now is Impact Hits, Sometimes I'll Slide off at the Hairpin at Imola 1972, Bump the Grass Embankment and It has to be a hands off the wheel or broken wrists. :).

    Is there a Line in the file I can adjust to reduce the impact hit, or is it built into the game itself?

    Thanx

    Jason
     
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  15. Rob Davies

    Rob Davies Bobby Dazzler AMS2 Club Member

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    I too am a convert for the file and ready to start tweaking it… but not sure where to start. I’m on a DD1… maybe there’s a little beginners guide to what the basic variables are as a sticky post we could pull together? If you want less kerbs do this… if you want more tyre feel/scrub, try this etc…. Appreciate there’s some comments in the file itself but a cumulative of advice that you’ve given in posts might be worth it? What do you think?

    Again, massive thank you for all the work and continued improvements with this. Transformed the game and my driving ability!
     
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  16. Gazzawesty

    Gazzawesty Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Just want to also add that I am very grateful to the guys making these files. I use Peters file in my g27 and it is a game changer.

    Thanks guys❤️
     
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  17. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    very good question..
    I don’t know myself sorry.
    i guess it’s not something that’s too much of a problem on low power wheels like mine.
    I’ve not seen anything obvious in file that would only impact on those impacts forces ,without perhaps impacting something else.

    You could try increasing this lines value and see if it reduces the peak output of those moments without spoiling overall loads .
    limit_high_df 1.0) #Limits how stiff the steering becomes in high df cars.

    I know it says high downforce cars limit but it may possibly just be a broader peak load artificial clip kinda like what Raceroom has with the max force adjustment.

    But it’s just a guess to be honest. would need more guidance from authors.
    static force limit increases can do a similar thing and is something ive reduced quite a lot in this file from previous set ups. but could have a trade off ..
     
  18. Peter Stefani

    Peter Stefani Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    If the limit downforce doesn't work for you, you might try to reduce the velocity values and see if that can control that spin off issue you mentioned.
    Example:
    (velocity_res_scale 0.6) #How much velocity affects resistance
    (velocity_res_offset 0.7) #How much resistance at velocity 0
    (vel_rot_scale 1.0)
    (vel_rot_limit_coef 1.0)
     
  19. Jason Pladoh

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    Hi, Thankyou for the suggestions, I'll give them a Try.

    J
     
  20. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I know I should know this, but, what does the relax setting do? eg. (center_relax 0.04) What does increasing and decreasing this value actually do? Thanks guys.
     

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