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Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Can start with increasing
    (Brake_feel 1.?)
    you will find it in variety of adjustable scale values near top of file.
     
  2. Fizzy

    Fizzy Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I've got a new CSL DD. I'm pretty happy with it, although the table clamp is not great. I can't decide between the old MuscleFuktor file I was previously using and the latest file by KuKu. Both give a pretty good feel for me using similar settings to yours (I run 75/0/35/45). I think I'm leaning towards the Delta X file.

    I'm pretty happy with the new wheel base, but one thing I have noticed is an occasional slight 'clunk' or 'click' type feeling on certain tracks (eg. Donnington in P3 Roco). Do you get this? It feels quite different to any other force the wheel provides.
     
  3. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I get a similar thing on my CSW 2.5 if either of these lines are set too high
    (exaggerate_front_load_feel 0.30) This is set at 1.0 as default
    (exaggerate_front_load_feel_hi_df 0.20) and this one is 0.5
    Try lower values and see if it makes a difference
     
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  4. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    It may be that some small smoothing is required for a certain element in high end file, as that is the main difference between that and what I run.
    There's several spots that ive added higher smoothing from 4.4 on my file. If you use notepad++ and compare you will see them and can try one by one.

    by the way : Ive found some better oversteer relax values to try., Ive just done it by feel , bugger the math :confused:.

    Its eliminated some very late corner exit throttle oversteer effect on little tail happy cars like the Ginnetta gt5 and the Caterham.

    Give this minor changes a try and see what you think.

    (front_tyre_stretch_feel 0.12)
    (rear_tyre_stretch_feel 0.10)
    (relax_os_line2_start_y 0.0004) #relax_os used for over-steer: relax_os
    (relax_os_pos 0.00144)
    (relax_os_width 0.00316)
    (relax_os_coef -0.015)
     
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  5. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I've actually had that feeling for quite a while. Have always had to turn those settings down. Quite often I reckon it is better to go by feel anyway. I'll try those new settings tomorrow and let you know.
     
  6. Fizzy

    Fizzy Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Thanks Michael (and Kuku) for your input here. I found the cause if the issue… not related to the FFB file, but I’ll detail it in case it helps anyone else…

    The problem was caused by the WRC rim. I was able to confirm this by trying my old CSL rim, which eliminated the issue. I read online that the plastic simplified QR Fanatec use on certain wheels can be fractionally loose on the wheelbase shaft. The answer was to put a couple of strips of masking tape on the shaft to pack it out slightly.

    Apparently, RMA’ing the rim doesn’t really help, according to other users it is a design fault rather than a manufacturing issue, so getting the rim replaced doesn’t resolve it. Masking tape seems fine ATM.
     
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  7. Fernando Zamora

    Fernando Zamora Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I am using the kuku file v2. Thanks, great job.
    I would like to have a more rubbery feel, or a higher level of smoothing as in AMS1.
    I own a ts-pc racer.
     
  8. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    You can play around with Tire deform values, here is a recommendation.
    (tyre_deform_scale 0.6)
    (tyre_deform_stiff 1.25)

    also you might benefit from running lower spring strength if running high end file.
    # Rack spring

    (steer_spring_strength 0.1)

    Im not sure if you have tried the T300 file , but its main difference is more smoothing and lower spring.
     
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  9. bazziboy

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    Hello Kuku!

    Yesterday i tried your file and i must say that it felt really good. The last file i tried from you, i found not so good, it seemed unresponsive and weak.
    With this one, i didn't even bother with fiddling with my settings, it was natural from the beginning.
    I'll try it again today, maybe i can tell a bit more then :)

    Cheers, bazziboy

    P.S.: I used the T300 file with my T300 :whistle:
     
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  10. Fernando Zamora

    Fernando Zamora Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Thank you very much, I will test the values that you suggest.
    I will also try the t300 file
     
  11. Fizzy

    Fizzy Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Just popping in to say that the delta x tune is superb IMO. Absolutely love it. Using 75/0/35/45 on my CSL DD. Thanks @Kuku Maddog, great work. :)
     
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  12. R00bDriver

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    Dude, is this your FFB file?

    It's brilliant

    I find that I can really feel the back end of the car more, I can feel it stepping out and under braking - it just makes much more sense!

    Thank you for putting your own time into this, it's really very very good :D
     
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  13. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    I’m pleased it’s working well for you.
    The magic comes from Karstens incredible momentum rack and the rFuktor mix.
    The rest is just tuning the sound, anyone can do it.
     
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    Well in that case, massive thanks to Karstens as well!

    Thanks again :)
     
  15. Chip

    Chip Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    @Kuku Maddog Thank you so much for sharing your continued fine tuning of the files with us! So, which file is the most recent (or most recently updated) one? I see some recommendations as far as code changes go, but when you get a moment, can you repost the version your currently running? Or better yet, a high-end version if there has been one? I’m really looking forward to trying it out on my SC2 Pro!
     
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    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Hi Chip.
    Sure thing here is the files for each that reflect the minor changes I've been finding good, but hadnt heard if others liked.
    I haven't run with new update yet and will have to see if the tire tread changes impact like they have sometimes in the past, but sounds minor .
    will update original post .

    **Edited for correction to experimental steer ratio value
    should've been
    (ratio_scale (/ steer_ratio 8))
    in T300 file, no change to high end needed
     

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  18. AndreiC

    AndreiC Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Unfortunately I did not have time to test your latest improvements but for the previous version I use I found increasing (suspension_scale 1.1) from 0.7 is a must for me, it really helps feeling more connected to the car.
     

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  19. chonk

    chonk Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Look forward to trying this AndreiC, I've been using your tweaked versions for a while now and for me at least they are always spot on.
     
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  20. AxisMagi

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    Bravo Kuku! Cracked the centering code indeed. With car properly setup can finally
    throttle steer on the limit like the real deal. Super stoked, thanks for your work and
    collaboration to figure this out, I think Karsten will be pleased.

    AMS2 is getting really good, have notice the great AI improvements.
    I was running your v2.0 with Formula Reiza at Spa and agree it works well with
    higher power steering running 40-50 with high down force cars. Now going to try
    v2.1 and see the difference.

    Just tried it and definitely like the previous version a lot better. With the High End version
    and Simucube2 DD. your v2.1 feels hollow and details too sharp, not sure how else
    to describe, didn't have the smooth filled in feel. I can see how this could
    happen when tuning with a T500 wheel as there is a lot more wiggle room. I have both wheels and the difference is staggering. It's probably very difficult to tune the high end file without
    testing on a DD rig, you should get one you wont be disappointed! I really like the v2.0 file.

    I'm also not feeling front tire lock up, going to try brake feel parameter, any other suggestions?
    Scrub?
     
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