Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Oh cool ill try those today thankyou

 

@GearNazi
I have just been doing exactly that. I need to try more cars with it, I've just been doing laps of Spa in the C9. That's what I've been focusing on most lately so it's the easiest comparison for me from file to file.

Anyway this tune is fantastic, I think it's my favourite so far, it ticks a lot of boxes for me and is probably the ideal base for me to tweak from, not that I could see myself changing much.

I dialed everything right back. T300 is set to 100% in the driver and a Gain of 75 in game, at 65 the detail is fantastic but still a touch light for me 75 is a nice compromise though. The weight of the wheel is excellent, it centers really convincingly, it's light enough but doesn't feel like a clown car and you're right about it not needing LFB it just adds an uncomfortable drag. There's loads of detail in slow corners and a nice amount of load at speed but even in situations where the wheel feels quite heavy there's still a real sense of what's going on with the tires. Just with the gain setting alone it's really very satisfying. so yeah this one is a winner for me.

 

Good stuff! That's what we wanna hear...
Especially in the first months of early access, I would run LFB pretty high and I could just feel the motor working full-tilt to counter any rotation of the wheel. It would squeal too?! Can't be right.
That motor would warm up, and I have 2x 120mm fans cooling motor and power supply.
But it would be feel lackluster when I'd remove some LFB.
So on top of now having quality ffb, that motor now barely warms to the touch.
I am 100% adament that our wheel, with this tune does not need any LFB, and personally, I usually leave that damping slider @ zero as well.
Clean, pure, honest feedback, that's totally immersive.
On the point of immersion; my 'VR-center' button is located next to my 'switch camera' button. Accidentally pressed today, and found out I was in 'cockpit' mode the whole time, instead of 'helmet' mode. Makes a big difference in motion/head movement/g-force effects and so forth. Since when is this so good? I can remember a time when both views would bem identical, save for the helmet you could either turn on or off... Weird, but I'll take it.

 

I tried after a long time ams 2 with my DD1 following versions:
- Delta-x
- Delta-X V2.1
- normal ru4-6

With some cars its feel good, with other ones less, but I dont have the overview, what are the differents between this files. Can anyone explain, what differences should be.
Many thanks

 

Just sharing my DD1 tune based on the Delta-X V2 file (which personally I prefer to V3 at present) in case it helps anyone.

In game I run 30/10/35/10/10 and my base is a 100% strength with damping and friction turned off and interpolation set to 0.

My Changes to the file (all commented with the defaul values for ref):
- Increased tyre slip/scrub/tear feel
- Increased suspension feel
- Changed the weight->bumpiness factor (too janky on some Formula cars)
- reduced the kerb effects.

The overall balance let’s me then run FX quite high to feel the scrub and the back-end going so it’s much easier to drive on the edge, even with the F-trainers!

@Kuku Maddog (and gang) - thank you for all your work on this.... game changer for me.

The one thing I would like is a bit more 'front tyre' feel and load in the balance, what would you suggest tweaking please?

Cheers
Rob

 

My CSL DD arrives Friday. Anybody care to share which file/settings they love? (Unfortunately the search function won’t allow a search for “CSL DD”.)

 

You can do a Google site search ...

"csl dd" 11135 site:forum.reizastudios.com - Google Search

 

@Hank Madison - you could dry my DD1 tune I posted above? Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

I don't know for sure, but suspect the feel will be similar and you can adjust the in-game gain to suit the lower-powered base.

 

@azaris @chonk
Despite having few technical references and only a judgment, I imagined what you might not like and today I remodeled the previous ALL IN ONE V3 file just for you ...

I hope he managed to understand your feelings ... the cursors value based on Logitech G920 or G29 are slightly different and now Gain 90 - Lfb 30 - Fx 60 - Dp 30

@Efe7to
I'd be interested to know if you keep hearing it ... it should be just a little firmer so just try to soften it up by reshaping the sliders

Everyone else is not allowed to try the files ...

 

@Stakanov haha dude! you're too kind. will try this out over the weekend.

the file that, GearNazi posted a few pages back in this thread which is as you said his tweak of a tweak is basically perfect for me. If you were to try that file with basically just Gain at around 70 0 LFB or Damping and FX to taste you would have a good sense of what.

Anyway the this is very much appreciated, I look forward to trying it out and hopefully being able to provide somewhat more useful feedback.

 

Hey thanks for the reply.
I've already spoken to T3k and he's doing AMS 2 next for the settings, I've already asked everyone in the official Simagic discord and Wolf refuses to even help lol (he's got an M10 not a mini, and I'm not kidding I've asked him 3 different times for his settings). There's literally nothing I can do in Alpha Manager to help fix the oscillations, I've tried every single setting in Alpha manager and AMS 2. It's just AMS 2 at this point cuz literally every other sim works perfectly. I guess my best hope is waiting for you to get yours and then copy Ur settings, and we can also see if this does the same thing with someone else's Mini. IDK

 

@Karsten Hvidberg hi again, Camaro drifter here with the full lock issue . So let me start by saying that the latest high end file is literally perfection for racing under and on the limit. I've recently got my CSL DD, running very raw, default wheelbase setting, with 75 in-game gain, everything else on 0. Everything can be felt perfectly, I can literally slide around GT cars and all. BUT, the full lock issue is still there unfortunately, just like it was with my CSL Elite. Same problem, car has for ex. 900 lock, I force a spin-out and let the wheel go to self align. It starts spinning normally and it just stops at 720. I can only force it over by hand to reach 900. I stopped the car completely to see how it feels when I try to manually turn the wheel to full 900 lock, and I actually noticed that soft lock comes up much earlier than full lock, just above 720 or so. So I thought its purely a soft lock issue, edited the file, set custom_lock_stop variable at the end to 0 to disable the custom lock stop. Tried turning the wheel again while the car was stationary and the lock stop issue was fixed, soft lock was only activated when I reached full 900 degrees. All cool, so I gave it a spin at a kart track, and started forcing some spin-outs. let the wheel go, self-aligning stopped at 720 degrees again. This happens with every car, regardless how much full lock they have, self aligning stops at about the same position where your custom lock stop activates.
Let me know if I can help reproduce the issue somehow. Keep up the great work!

 

Hey Oka, aka Camaro drifter,

I never really bothered too much about the custom lock stuff. From your description are you saying that even disabling custom lock stop, it still performs some wrong lock stop on karts?

As I am extremely busy these days, I hope maybe one of the guys in here is able to look at fixing this part?

Best,

-K

 

Yep, even with the custom lock stop disabled, self aligning stops at about the same point where the custom lock stops were active. Not just on karts, all the other cars too. The best way I can describe it is as if the caster of the car suddenly disappeared. No mechanical trail at all.

 

Ahhh, that might be the case actually, that the influence of the trail is what kills it. I will try to find time a day soon to modify it slightly.
Can you confirm if the EasterFuctor file does not exhibit the issue?

 

I couldn't find an easterfuktor file in the main post, but I found one in one of the replies. I tried it and it has the same issue.

 

Great to see you back @Karsten Hvidberg.

 

Hey @Fizzy ,

My available time has diminished to 0 time, unf...
It is slightly annoying with the 2 known issues(lock stop & Monza 10k), but much more important that it is being tuned/modded to many different wheel bases and likings, so it is good to follow the tunes & improvements many people have been bringing and are still bringing.

Best,

-K

 

Nice to see you , we understand you are busy, until monza things where very settled, and felt like the peak had been reached anyway,and you should be free to get on with life, I’ve been short of time of late too and will only become more short as I head into summer.
I think the monza thing is 50/50.
50% is a parameter that gets stepped over in the caster, when bottoming out and 50% is something very weird about the track mesh of monza oval.
for some reason the high side wants to pull the car left up the banking while the right hand wheel wants to follow the slope down to the right.
it happens even at walking pace, so it’s very unnatural and is something that shouldn’t happen, so I don’t really consider it a fault of the file.

 

I've got an alpha mini with the gt1-r wheel and am using the default FFB. I haven't had any oscillation issues. I'm still tweaking them, but I raced last night in the formula vintage and the FFB felt pretty damn good. Able to catch slides, and plenty of detail.

Give this a go;
Alpha manager settings
Total Force - 80
Smoothing - 3
Inertia - 5
Damping - 15
Friction - 10
Suspension- 1
Rotation - 900
AMS2
force - 70
lfb - 0
fx - 35
Damping - 10