Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Yes the same with me the FEI at 100 on CSW 2.5 was to grundy, 50-60 feels way better.

 

Karsten, thanks for another file mate! The weightlessness is definitely gone, but the overall feel is not right. The heaviness felt now from this file in every car is like a separated belt movement which doesn't match the swerve weight from side to side.

I've been using Nus latest file and the impression that I get switching between his and default is that in one I have scrub, track details and kerbs and the other not (Reiza's), but the same ffb. In yours, I get kerbs coming through slightly different(adjustable), but also a car rolling feel down the straight that I like, but the weight of the car still not right.

 

Ahh, yes you are right, thanks!
I know what is wrong. Will fix!

Cheers!

 

In your first post you claimed the weaker signal was due to method, which it was not. Weights & Sigmoid is apples to oranges.
There was no "issue" in the method of the file.

Based on the "too weak" feedback I strengthened it. Unrelated to the Sigmoid function, but sure it's a nice addition.

I will happily elaborate if that is required at a later time.

Cheers

 

Hello,
here are the FFB-File in german. I have translated it with goolge, but many things are not realy plausible or korrect translatet. Rack are "Zahnstange der Lenkung" and not only Rack.
I hope to help the germans to find better settings and we all get a better understanding for this extrem opportunities, what this engine brings us and this file.
Btw. i don't change the values, its only a changing of the language.

Thank you!

 

Hay Manuel,

Cool stuff!

Be advised that there currently is a minor issue with the file & I will post you the fix when done.
Also there is the "small file" done by @NuScorpii that has another feel to it, that you might want as well!

Cheers!

 

Oh, sounds good. Can you tell the changes if it's released?
You're the new Jack Spade and give us the new realfeel-ini ;-)

 

Nice of you to say, but no thanks I'm simply having fun.

But maybe @NuScorpii can be that

Cheers

 

This time, i have the best feeling with the G27-Profile with my SimuCUBE.
How can i port that values to the custom file, because, i want modifie it, to learn and improve.

If i use that, it is not the same.

(road_rumble_fx (if wheeltype_g25_g27_g920 0.0 road_rumble_fx))
(scrub_scale_front (if wheeltype_g25_g27_g920 0.3 scrub_scale_front))
(scrub_scale_rear (if wheeltype_g25_g27_g920 0.2 scrub_scale_rear))
(kerbs_weight (if wheeltype_g25_g27_g920 0.7 kerbs_weight))

(road_rumble_weight (if wheeltype_dd 0.3 road_rumble_weight))
(road_rumble_weight (if wheeltype_csw_csl 0.3 road_rumble_weight))
(road_rumble_weight (if wheeltype_tspc 0.3 road_rumble_weight))
(road_rumble_weight (if wheeltype_t300 0.3 road_rumble_weight))
(road_rumble_weight (if wheeltype_g25_g27_g920 0.2 road_rumble_weight))



Or get i an copy from G27, when i delete it?

 

Oh man, I'd heard AMS2 worked with Proton, but as a massive Linux fan (ElementaryOS is my daily driver) you now have me wanting to drop PopOS on my gaming rig to give it a try on Linux!

 

Hi,

just to report back on the issue of 'dead' FFB at center of the wheel with G29
I modified the min_force value 0.00 -> 0.08
After testing various values (0.005 to 0.10) now the wheel/FFB behaves correctly at center/straights

Tested with various cars (F309 dallara, SuperV8, ..) and tracks and without bumping up the min_force essentially the motor of the wheel 'turns off' at center. This happens irrespective of the values of the 3 sliders (Gain/Sub/Fx). Any small deviation from the center and FFB kicks in, beautifully detailed.

Not sure if others with 'week' wheels have the same problem or could confirm if some adjustment is beneficial for them too. On my end it would be great if Reiza could fix the problem in one of the next patches


Thanks
G

 

I think G29 are better, but with a G27 you can use up to 16%.
Test it, set it to 30% and during driving, you feel in the middle a click, right or left, but not 12 o clock / the middle. Then, reduce the value more and more, till you don't feel it.
Its not much work and after some restarts of AMS2, yoh have it and this value are the right for all games, that have got an option for minforce.

 

Yep, works beautifully on Arch.
I have an AMD RX480 8GB and i5 6600K (overclocked at 4.4GHz) 60 FPS locked with vsync on, mix of high and med details, MSSA med, motion blur == off. (if you do not play with rain/storm you can bump up to high/ultra no problem -- RX480 is not particularly strong, but mesa drivers + ACO are stellar)
Essentially same ("95%+) performance as in Win10 -- same graphic settings. Got rid of Win10 since proton 4.x -- the happiest man ever
FPS do drop in replays -- sane in Win10

Note that AMS2 has the same performance as PC2 on Linux

Enjoy PopOS!

Cheers
G

 

Update:

* Fixed balance(by removing a non-fix to get closer to Default feel).
* Fixed road details issue.

It's now a nice layer of improvements on Default. Adjustment improvements like smart slider, weights for effects and no_scale_ffb as well as the "Lfb bug" fix, road details, kerb, scrub are all in place and more.

If anything feels weird to you, then set friction to 0.0 in the file.
It is not the final version of that yet.

@Manuel Staedel This is the fixed file.
@F.Santos This should feel better.

Custom ffb file attached "Homerun":

 

I just tested 4 cars,
Caterham 310 HP,
Sigma,
F V10
Ultima Streetcar...


Dream! And driving on gras are much more better. No clipping on Brands Hatch.
Thats the right way.
Thank you so much!

And sorry, now i don't have learn the FFB files because you made it.
Very nice!

 

Hi . Do you mean the min force value in the custom ffb file ?
Just wondering because I have a G920 and would also like to correct this .
Thanks .

 

Update:

* Friction morning improvement.

For wheel bases that don't have build in friction functionality, this should make for a less rubbery feel to the steering wheel at low forces.

It's set at 0.10, but you can adjust in the file if you want more or less.

Custom ffb file "Le Resistance" attached:

 

Bingo! Karsten, great file! feels way more natural now.

Gonna test later the one from this morning, but I think I will keep this one for now.
Kerbs felt quite brutal with the V8, Ultima and Stockcar, I toned down to 0.05 and it feels quite good now in all cars. It gave me more difference between kerbs I noticed too. This is a more personal opinion than the fact here, probably.

I did raise the scrub from 1.4 to 1.6 and I can't be sure that I noticed any difference?! Do you have a way to verify that? if its really taking into account when u change that parameter?

Other than that, great file! thanks mate

 

Yes, the min_force in the ffb_custom_settings.txt file

I also tested the modified file from NuScorpii/Jabbah -- the latest version (v2.x by memory)
Also there I had to bump up the min_force to get rid of the center wheel ffb dead zone

(Obviously select custom profile in the ffb panel in the game)

for the records, on my setup (G29) to match the overall feel of the FFB on the wheel, tested across different cars, tracks and values of the FFB sliders in game (gain/sub/fx):
[ffb_custom_settings.txt from Reiza] min_force 0.00 -> 0.08
[ffb_custom_settings.txt from NuScorpii] min_force 0.00 -> 0.12 (also 0.14 is not bad, on the high end though)

Note that with the NuScorpii I lowered the sliders in the in-game FFB (no clipping):
[Reiza custom file + min_force 0.08]: 70/80/80 for gain/sub/fx
[NuScorpii custom file + min_force 0.12]: 70/60/50 for gain/sub/fx

My 2 cents: i would strongly recommend Reiza to take a look at the issue -- at least for weak wheels (does the bumping of the min_force makes sense/works also for 'strong' wheels?) -- hopefully others can chime in with their experience on the matter.

Edit: it would be useful to know if any non-zero value (e.g.: 0.01 or even lower) for min_force makes sense for wheels in general. I did not dwell in the maths/formula and I do not know details of FFB implementation, but min_force == 0.00 does not make much sense from a general standpoint. With an FFB so detailed as in AMS2, i would assume that some vibration (e.g. from the engine) are always present even at standstill

G.

 

Update:

* Center momentum added. Experimental.
* Fixed wrong ordering of wheel type overrides.

Another lunch break, another experiment

This one feels absolutely stunning to me!
Adjust the strength of it "center_momentum" in the file if you think it's too much or too little.

Custom ffb file attached "Momentum":

@F.Santos Please give this one a spin too, it might have fixed scrub adjustment issue. There was a bug...