Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

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  1. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    I tested the new 5.0.1.2 with fanatec dd1. I think the file is very good for belt wheels. Unfortunately not recommended for dd wheels. Extreme vibrations in almost all cars. For dd wheels I recommend Kuku file or mine
    For csl DD (8Nm) maybe all files could be good

    Beautiful day
     
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  2. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Hey Daniel,

    This sounds weird as it was made on a DD wheel base(Simucube 2), what are your settings?
     
  3. Mike Evans

    Mike Evans Member

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    Not for me. I have a CSL DD 8nm and think 5.0.1.2 feels great. I found yours too soft for my liking. Obviously it’s a personal preference thing.
    As with anything like this it’s a suck it and see situation.
     
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  4. Tr51

    Tr51 Member AMS2 Club Member

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    hello folks
    I'm testing with DD Accuforce, with Sim Commander and without SC ... I will keep you updated
    bye
     
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  5. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    I had a open mind fresh look at the Scrub and tear, instead of just copy and pasting in old scrub ...
    I broke it down and tested various extremes to better understand what's affecting what., then scaled up or down from there.
    The result of this new scrub looks wild on paper , but in practice , its very organic, and I simply cant go back .

    Its improved the steering feel ( even at low speed , the braking feel, the edge of tire limit and made for a smoother experience at the same time, with the jagged skipping eliminated.

    If you cant feel it your not driving fast enough :D

    I predict @tUMi is going to set a new lap record with this ;), its sharpened some of my pace up for sure., with a whole lot more confidence.
    there maybe some micro fine tuning to do, but im not going to have the time for a day or so.
    It could make the FX slider more broad range to perhaps .
     

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  6. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Hey Karsten
    My values are all in the file for in Game and base/fanalab
     

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  7. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    You have 8Nm and I have 20Nm, this behaves completely differently. Yes that is individual. But when there is extreme vibration, it is no longer playable, that's fact
     
  8. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Hey @Stakanov,

    Is it possible for you to post the 5.1.1.2 file with your tear/scrub modifications so it's easy to try out?
     
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  9. Dean Ogurek

    Dean Ogurek "Love the Simulation You're Dreaming In." AMS2 Club Member

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    I don't experience extreme vibrations but, I believe that the amount of Friction & Damping used play a major part in filtering out such vibrations, more than a matter of servo characteristics and overall power output.

    It has been the same whether I used an AccuForce / SimuCube1 / SimuCube2. Certainly, mass and natural inertia of the servo / wheel play a part but, the dynamic nature of the electronic controller can neutralize those differences, to some extent. Dynamic range and headroom (for clipping) vary but, DD all use the same principal control methods, no matter their naming convention.

    Friction has greater direct impact on reducing bump response in FFB whereas, Damping slows the bump effects. So, Friction limits or mutes the bump response more than Damping does. There exists a fine balance between these constant force effects. They can remove unwanted responses and still provide excellent levels of detail and overall steering characteristics but, require considerable experimentation.

    I think many users are quick to disregard the role these constant force effects actually play, in providing improved control of the overall steering character and details.
     
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  10. Jean-Yves Mercy

    Jean-Yves Mercy Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Hello everyone,

    first of all, thank you for all the files proposed.
    I found my happiness for my TSPC Racer, I test each time the new files, but I do not know why I always return to my old 3.1 file.

    But that's not why I'm writing to you: I'm on a forum where I often read that drivers with a Simucube 1 or 2 don't feel the track at all, they say it's a shame that AMS2 is so flat. Which I really don't understand since my TSPC is extremely lively, and I can't find any flat and lifeless track.

    IF someone from my remarks could direct me to a file well suited for the Simucube, I could pass the info on my forum.

    Thanks in advance.

    Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
     
  11. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    @Karsten Hvidberg
    I'm in the office now and for my file I go home later .... to be faster I downloaded your original 5.1.1.2 from the forum and I only replaced the SCRUB code for each wheel without any modification of the original values and it is also better to make the comparison ... as you know my file is modified in many other parts and therefore the comparison could be skewed by other variables :) ... you can find what you requested to me attached below ;)
     

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  12. LE GAULOIS

    LE GAULOIS New Member

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    rFuktor 5.0.1.x
    Optimisation fanatec DD1
    In game: Gain 65, LFB 0, FX 50, Damping 0
    DD1/FANALAB: SEN Auto, FFb 100, FFS Linear, NDP 5, NFR 0, NIN 1, INT 1, FEI 100, FOR 100, SPR 100, DPR 100
    Dynamic FFB Enable default and damper effect range 5°
     

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  13. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't matter. I have the perfect file for me, and also for some other people. I will continue to go away the 5.01. Good luck with the other way to 5.01.2 . Take care
    Daniel
     
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    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Uh, that's hard for me to say...
    You can adjust the "master_rack" in the file up. Also in-game increase the gain and perhaps the lfb.

    I'm sorry I'm not of too much help, I'm afraid :(
     
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  15. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    So I finally got to give it a go.
    Very interesting, it seems your wheel base prefers the somewhat slower moving tear and scrub I think?
    Maybe the faster ones feel like rattling rather than vibes?
     
  16. tUMi

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    Wow, Kuku. This file is the new golden standard for me. Absolutely incredible. I knew from the very beginning that the rFuktor 5.0.1.2 had a great potential and I was right. Your "New Scrub" tune perfected this file for me. It has everything I have ever wanted from the custom FFB file and it works straight out of the box for me with no modifications needed whatsoever. Thank you so much for sharing this masterpiece!

    By the way, you were not mistaken when you said I was going to set a new lap record with this file. ;) Here it is, a new world record lap on Montreal with the McLaren MP4/12 (screenshots below)!

    http://www.dropbox.com/s/8d0w989g2b...montreal_tumi_world_record_09-02-22.png?raw=1

    http://www.dropbox.com/s/ouy4kzdg8m..._world_record_09-02-22_sector_times.png?raw=1
     
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  17. Peter Stefani

    Peter Stefani Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I really like how there's no more rattling in the G920. Just did some scrub and torque tweaks, referencing Kuku's settings, and found a good compromise for the G920. Super happy with it now!
    Great work all !
     
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    kkdrummer Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Sounds great. Would you mind sharing it? Thanks!
     
  19. Peter Stefani

    Peter Stefani Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    The link was updated with the latest on page 221, post 4415
     
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    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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