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Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Hey Kuku
    Maybe you have time to test something? Rewrite these lines in the file, in front of momentum rack.

    (grip_l (max 0 (- grip_fl (* front_grip_loss_feel (-1 grip_fl)))))
    (grip_r (max 0 (- grip_fr (* front_grip_loss_feel (-1 grip_fr)))))

    And at the rack settings write :

    (front_grip_loss_feel 0.3)

    Now compare the front axle .
    Beautiful day
     
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  2. Daniel Escalona

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    Wow mate, thanks a lot!! gonna test this asap!!
     
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  3. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Hi Daniel

    I can see the theory , but havent been able to make it work, would need to see a working example with the 5.0.1 base file.

    all the ways I could think to add it in all resulted in not being possible to drive straight line issue, with wheel wanting to swing left or right.
     
  4. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    That is very odd. It only seems to work for me. I also sent the file to other people, but all had the same Problem. It's so good because it connects the front axle to the steering. Too bad it doesn't work. I have no idea why this only works for me
     
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    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Interesting, without seeing a complete working file, it’s impossible to pin point why it doesn’t react the same way.
     
  6. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Ich glaube auch nicht, dass es bei dir funktionieren WIRD
     
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  7. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    yes it still acts like its got inverted self alignment with the new code. I cant see anything obvious that would fix that, and its truly bizarre that it doesn't do it for you.

    But with that extra code disabled the file feels pretty good , and I have had fun analyzing some of your values.
    Using my tune as a reference , then adding in some of your values has been enlightening, its always great to see what others come up with and how it can beneficial or detrimental .
    either way your learn more .

    This center set up works very well
    (lfb_slider_strength 1.0)
    (center_full (blend (min 1 (* lfb_slider 2)) 0.01 0.01))

    and after some time to get used to the different back end feel, and retrain the brain ;), I have come to like the disabled Yaw scale.
    It doesn't seem to adversely effect anything and feels more realistic when used with other small adaptions like higher oversteer and understeer scale and also slightly reduce spring steer strength.

    I have settled on this configuration for my personal use tune which I will post below.
    I think this will be a long term stable tune for me.

    The main difference to the way I run the file is I make use of the Damper slider to add holding resistance and friction which helps with balance control and reduces the overcorrection and overbalance moments getting away if the wheel moves too freely, but that can come down to personal taste and driving style and also individual car behavior.

    but thank you for sharing what you have been working on, its been constructive even if there's something not working as hoped.
    :)
     

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  8. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Yes, it' s a shame it doesn't work. This change is very many new possibilites. I was able to improve a lot with it. To feel the front axle and thus the understeer. Slip feeling, road feeling, slide factor, i was able to customize everything with this change. The file I sent you is still without these new changes. I'm sorry for you that it doesn't work. I enjoy this incredibly real ffb , and wish you the best of luck on your journey
     
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  9. Danielkart

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    Looked at your file. A little tip.
    (On_off_throttle_feel 0.05) gives unwanted side effects. Better set to 0. And at the end of the file also better to 0 .

    (travel_l (* travel_l (max 0.7 (+ 1 (* on_off_throttle_feel (- (smooth throttle 0.0) (smooth throttle 0.00)))))))
    (travel_r (* travel_r (max 0.7 (+ 1 (* on_off_throttle_feel (- (smooth throttle 0.0) (smooth throttle 0.00)))))))
     
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    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Yes I agree it can be invasive , but also don't mind it , if its just set low enough to not cut loading feel mid corner.
     
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  11. Danielkart

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    Your yaw values are certainly good. I do that with the motion, but will test it.
    Thank you
     
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    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Yes, unfortunately the file only works for me. You can hide the 3 files with #
    If you have a dd1/2 i eliminated the vibrations and the swinging
     
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    Hi,
    I am using an OSW Simucube V1 with the small Mige. Is there any good setup for that configuration? I am very new to the game and so far only used the ingame settings but not very happy with it.
     
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    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I have a CSW 2.5 base and it does the same to me. Undriveable unfortunately.
     
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    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Delete the 3 lines described above, them it works
     
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    GoobMB Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    So, I finally tried this and unfortunately it is not much driveable for me (CSL DD, tried F V2 rim for newer formulas and both 30 and 32 rims on older cars). Really massive oscillations around the centre on straights.
     
  17. Mikk Schleifer

    Mikk Schleifer Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    recalibrated the wheel?
     
  18. GoobMB

    GoobMB Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Yes. Leaving only one hand on the wheel (for shifting or reaching a button) is really uncomfortable as the wheel tries quickly to oscillate from max lock to max lock - this is not how cars behave on straights. Probably not enough dampening somewhere.
     
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  19. RockyTM

    RockyTM Modder AMS2 Club Member

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    There must be something with your wheel or settings.. I run csw 2.5, csl DD and DD2 wheel, none of them oscillates...
    You did choose custom file in ams? (Stupid question, but we all make mistakes)
     
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  20. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Maybe the dt 0.00333333 value is missing?
     
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