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Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. WarmRed

    WarmRed Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    my settings in the game are (55/0/0) DD1 profiles selected. The AMS2 default FFB setting is therefore much more pronounced.
     
  2. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Ok, in the new fixed file, did you try to "up" the center_momentum variable?
    I think it is at 1.5 in the file.
     
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  3. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Ahhh, the LFB Reiza problem.

    LFB at 0 causes an error, please try & set it to at least 1.
    It will change any custom file dramatically:)

    Also, I would use at least some FX. I have it at 50%.

    Cheers
     
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  4. F.Santos

    F.Santos Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Gonna try to turn it up to 3.0 later. Been following your conversation with Nus and what you said earlier about being a quick fix (the last file), so I'm gonna wait for your next one and probably stick with SilverBullet1.0 fo now. Thanks mate.
     
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  5. Pixel

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    Tried both files and they are great. I wished Reiza allowed more than 1 named file to have multiple setups, and custom variables exposed in the UI. Great effort though, hopefully Reiza will take some queues from these, at least for some more 'standard' flavors.
     
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  6. NuScorpii

    NuScorpii Well-Known Member

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    This seems to work to get around the lfb 0 issue:

    (<output> (if (smooth (max 0.0 (- 0.99 (abs (lfb 1.0 0.1)))) 0.5) <value if lfb 0> <value if lfb gt 0>))

    You get the odd tick if FX is set very high but it will certainly stop the bug from being noticed.
     
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  7. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Update:


    * Fixed custom ffb scaling function.

    * Adjusted turning momentum to better fit the cars, tested on 4 very different ones.

    * Adjusted Friction. Friction fills the bottom, making cars feel more real & works against oscillations.


    For a more heavy feel when driving faster: Increase "turning_momentum". For less heavy, lower it

    For less friction, if you think that is too much: Lower "friction".


    Attached custom ffb file "Silver Bullet" v4:
     

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  8. NuScorpii

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    Edit: Latest file can be found here

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    Updated

    V2.1a Bug Fix:
    * Reset experimental variable that was causing cornering forces to be too high.

    Heavy Messing V2.1:

    Continuing the WR pedigree - new WR set at Jerez Standard in the Stock Car Brazil V8 using Heavy Messing V2.1:
    upload_2020-6-12_20-6-17.png

    Main aim for this release was to get a slightly more rf2 feel to the ffb but keep the details. Steering now feels tighter without any centre notchiness that doesn't move with weight shifts. Big differences between cars, especially high down force.

    * Added tyre adhesion based grip feedback. Makes the steering feel lighter when the front loses traction e.g. understeer and lock ups. Builds on the previous version for brake locking.
    * Adhesion effect strength can be controlled using adhesion_scale.
    * Revised details balance so road texture and bump details are not as harsh.
    * Increased brake effect slightly on the rack to provide better feedback on braking.
    * Added LFB 0 work around "fix". FFB won't spaz out with LFB set to 0.
    * Added a damping parameter so users can make the wheel give more resistance to turning, can also help with oscillations: overall_damping.
    * Histogram now outputs full range all the time.
    * Revised bump stop damping to decrease bounce back.
    * Increased the affect that the FX slider has on the road texture and bump details.

    *** For gear and belt driven wheels try increasing the min_force value to 0.06 or higher.
     
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  9. F.Santos

    F.Santos Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Enjoyed this update, messing around now to reduce the heaviness of cars like the sigma. I also added more scrub from 0.25 to 0.30 and in scale to 1.5atm, need more testing. Really good file.
     
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    F.Santos Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Now it's back to where it was before for me, really easy to set didn't change a thing in the file only in-game. I noticed now fiddling with @NuScorpii latest file the overall strength difference. Yours has a more subtle approach to all cars even the heavy ones, you notice the difference but its not quite dramatic.

    Anyways, I guess we have another update from Reiza soon right, we are not quite there with v1.0 of AMS2. But good stuff mate, have a good problem now to choose which file to use, you guys are almost producing the same custom ffb.
     
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    not to sound like a broken record but...Might I suggest separate threads?

    :)
     
  15. Karsten Hvidberg

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    I have no doubt NuScorpii will create his own.

    Cheers
     
  16. F.Santos

    F.Santos Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    That's a shame man, seriously afraid of getting involved and becoming the new target of anger.
    But as a big beneficiary here I just wanna say that you two working together and competing or just putting different custom files online made the game better and the files itself, regardless of intellectual ownership.

    You guys are very smart to come up with this incredible custom file and I don't understand how you didn't manage to sort these differences between you two privately and in an amicable way. Not many people are getting involved but your files are all over the web now, just saying that cos there's a public service bigger picture here and we all appreciate the work regardless of title, I think for most of us its the name of both of you on top that comes to mind every time.

    Either way, thanks for the so far relentless custom file uploading Karsten Hvidberg.
    @Karsten Hvidberg
    @NuScorpii
     
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