Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Yes, 1.4 gives problem. Only the With Yaw file though. I have commented out all the relax yaw lines, as well as deleted them, but still crashes. I don't know anything about the coding, but seems it's down in the Yaw section. I have tried every version of Atmos I have from 1.2 to 1.4, and all will crash the game when that combo is loaded up first.
     
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  2. EcoBrum

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    Very useful as always @Michael Enright .
    We wait the final 1.4 game update and then we will do the tests.
     
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  3. sndb

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    I'm just an ignorant passerby here, but root-cause investigation by eye/hand seems like a really laborious endeavor. I don't think these are being pushed to git{hub,lab} so one can't just pull up the commit history to weed out the breaking change, but couldn't impacted parties just diff their crash-happy FFB file against previous releases (or ideally, last version stable on their system)--that delta should reduce the number of lines requiring investigation enough to make it pretty quick to resolve the fault.

    I did not invest the time to catch up on all the posts on the last couple pages here, so apologies if I've misunderstood what they're trying to do about their AMS2 crashes.

    Regardless though, it be so much more accessible if these custom FFB files were worked on as public repos instead of sporadic posts by a small number of specific users in a going-on-300-page-thread. If nothing else, the history of various forks, branches, and merges going all the way back to the earliest Karsten releases would be super interesting...
     
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  4. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    As I said, I have already done the comparing, right back to original Atmos file. They all crash the latest AMS2 Beta's, but only the 'With Yaw' file. The 'No Yaw' one does not do it. All coding is identical apart from the lines for the Yaw. I do not have much knowledge about the coding side of things, so I did as much as I could. With absolutely no difference.
    This is the problem. If the Atmos 'With Yaw" file is in the AMS2 Documents Folder, and you load the Super V8 and Bathurst first up, you will get a CTD while the track is trying to load. Try another track or car first, then come back to V8 & Bathurst and all is fine. Hope this explains it.
     
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  5. Peter Stefani

    Peter Stefani Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Notepad++ has a compare function which makes comparing two files side by side and their differences easy to do, (as stated above). Maybe it's possible that the "yaw" code is not perfectly suitable to be used in the file.
    IMO, (and that's just an opinion) anything beyond 5.1.0.3 is really a waste of time.

    Small update as of 03-10-23 for some code corrections. G920 in-game 93/10/25/1
    ffb_custom_settings - rFactor 5.0.1.3 - Mar_2023_G920
     
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  6. DoZZa

    DoZZa New Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Which Custom profile would be best to use with Simucube SC2?
     
  7. Handpflegecreme

    Handpflegecreme Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Is there already a new custom ffb for 1.4 out? :whistle:;)o_O
     
  8. Manolo

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    Solved the problem of the crash with ATMOS 1.4 and others in the combination V8 & Burstust .... but since too much nonsense has been said and now I'm going out I will attach the file as soon as I get back ... thanks to @Michael Enright ... very useful ;)
     
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  9. EcoBrum

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    Dead****…. :whistle:
     
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  10. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    I see no need , it feels even better with the update. the more the physics improve , the better the custom rack gets imho.
     
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  11. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Can't wait to try it. Was it a simple fix?
     
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  12. Manolo

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    How much bull**** in flurry says "mad chiwawa" is unbelievable thank goodness they keep him in beta with other friends... :D

    No, no problem wait only a little correct, only same users are borked... :)

    Look in private messages and if you want to let me know confirm ... ;)

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    I returned at home now but I see that there is only one other scientist missing who will not resist saying his, let's wait for this other falsehood ... and then let's do a nice summary and a nice explanation on the errors never corrected on their files, on the teasing and on how much down some have fallen low on this forum .... good night everyone and sorry if I delay the public solution :)
     
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  13. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Yes, Notepad ++ is great for that sort of thing. It is what I used.
     
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  14. Sardino

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    I found out about this thread yesterday and I’m trying to figure out which file is the right one for my base(thrustmaster ts-wv).For what I understood it seems that it is 1.4 Atmos with yaw…is it so? Could someone point me to where to download it?iAnd if this isn’t the appropriate which one would be the right one?
    Sorry for such a newbie question
    Thanks
     
  15. Manolo

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    Mr. @Sardino for ATMOS information wait for me to publish the 1.4 file with the FIX that solves the new incompatibility with the game version 1.4.1.0, now I'm out of house and I'm with my mobile phone, please wait … not being the Stakanov compiler, I'm just trying to decide the last details without any code changes (only deactivations), in order to deliver a stable file that does not create problems for users, with the same stability of Original and Derivates.

    Regarding which file to use among all the existing ones, I can only tell you to try them all, the choice is yours and personal ;)
     
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  16. TKracer

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    So for a newbie who haven't followed all 278 pages.
    Is this the Daniel file everyone talks about this ?

    # NAME: rFuktor 5.0.1 - By Karsten with Shadak & Panos
    # Best of Karsten Hvidberg
    # Custom force FFB File from Daniel V44


    I've seen Rfuktor and Karsten before but this file also mentions a Daniel guy. I got a simucube 2, anything else I have to change or just follow the settings in the file?
     
  17. Theoloop

    Theoloop Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    go back one page and look for the comment from Danielkart
     
  18. Aza340

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    I can totally recommend that file. It's on the previous page , second post from the top .
    I have a simplicity direct drive wheel and it works brilliantly for me . You will have to experiment with settings though as everyone has different opinions on what you should and shouldn't be feeling through the wheel.
     
  19. Manolo

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    THINGS NOT DONE AND THINGS NOT TRUE AND FALSE
    - I have not changed the ATMOS code;
    - there was no typing error (no one checked before speaking);
    - the length of the code was not the problem (no one removed lines before sentencing);
    - there were no problems related to physics (no one has proved anything) and from here to say that there was the wrong physics was as usual a coward;
    - the file manifested the bug only in an explicit configuration and only if you started the game with the Super V8 / Burstust combination otherwise the game would always work in any other situation, so you will understand that supporting the above is even more cowardly.

    THINGS I HAVE ADJUSTED KNOWING THE PREVIOUS PROBLEMS AND THANKS TO THOSE FEW USERS WHO HAVE TESTED IN A USEFUL AND CONSTRUCTIVE WAY (I do not quote you but you know that I thank all of you):
    - Clean up only a few notes after the values (it has nothing to do with the fix but you have also come to say this);
    - Removed the redundant descriptions because the meaning was already clear from the name of the item and did not require repetition (this also has nothing to do with the fix but only to avoid making someone laugh stupidly and also like);
    - Removed the deadzone lines on the variables grip_fl, grip_fr, grip_rl and grip_rr, this too is not necessary for the fix if you want you can restore them from the previous file;
    - Removed the lines of code of the rear wheels for the activation of curb, kerb, tire_l, tire_r & slope ... only this was the code that, even if it worked everywhere, crushed the game in the only combination described above.

    All the rest of the file and the code (98%) has remained unchanged and untouched ... I sincerely hope that the author Stakanov will return, who has a greater capacity and competence than me, but I perfectly understand why this absence.

    These are the new ATMOS 1.4 FIX files which, as usual for the author Stakanov, i public in YAW and NO YAW version and i attached the Original Karsten File to allow comparison.
     
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  20. EcoBrum

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    It seems ok now, thanks to everyone for the efforts made, on the rest I do not comment so as not to cheer or add ugliness.
    Good night.
     
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