Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

am i the only one who finds default+ much more better than this custom configs? on a t300rs

 

Mmm, what do you like about it? I couldn't really tell what the ffb was doing personally on this setting. I also felt it has this weird oscilation at times, even on the straights..

 

Gracias!!
Thanks @Thomponsonbra, now I can feel the understeer perfectly on my ts-pc racer
The other files over load the ffb too much

 

Hi all

this is a really great ffb profile
Is there a way to add/increase the suspension effect so I can feel sharp braking etc ???????????
( a big credit to LexVR for making it )
complete file Below :




######################################################
# NAME: LexxVR's Lucid AMS2 Custom DD1 Mix 1.59


(engine_scale 0.5)
(scrub_scale 15.0)
(custom_lock_stop 0.5)

# Spindle Scales -------------------------------------
#(Fx_scale raw_volume)
#(Fy_scale raw_volume)
#(Fz_scale raw_volume)
#(Mz_scale raw_volume)

(Fx_scale raw_volume)
(Fy_scale (* tone 2.0 raw_volume))
(Fz_scale raw_volume)
(Mz_scale (* (+ (* tone -1.0) 1.0) 2.0 raw_volume))



###########################################################
#
#Some constants
#
##general multipliers (from ams1)
(max_overall_force 11500.0)
(recip_force ( / 1.0 max_overall_force))

#mfasr scaler
(rack_scaled ( * arm_force ( / max_overall_force M_max_force_at_rack)))
(rack_scaled ( * rack_scaled recip_force))
(rack rack_scaled)

(rack_smooth (smooth rack M_force_smoothing))
(rack (if M_force_smoothing rack_smooth rack))

###########################################################
#####################################################
#####################################################
#PARKING LOT FORCE

(parkingForce (* parkingForceMult rack))


(parkingForce (* parkingForce (crossover et 0.0 5.0)))
(parkingForce (* parkingForce (- 1.0 (crossover vel_mag 0.0 7.0))))
(parkingForce (* parkingForce ))
(rack (* rack (crossover vel_mag 0.0 5.0)))
(rack (+ rack parkingForce))

######################################################
######################################################
#FX_AMS2- scrub effect (gives subtle vibrtions on braking / understeer)
# and engine vibrations on wheel (so like ams1 "fx" -curbs)
#############


# Scrub ----------------------------------------------
(FL_scrub (soft_clip FL_scrub 5120.0 0.01))
(FL_scrub (scoop FL_scrub 0.16 0.15))
(FL_scrub (* FL_scrub (oscillator 2.2)))

(FR_scrub (soft_clip FR_scrub 5120.0 0.01))
(FR_scrub (scoop FR_scrub 0.16 0.15))
(FR_scrub (* FR_scrub (oscillator 2.2)))


# Texture --------------------------------------------
(road_scale (* 0.01 1.0))
(brk_scale 0.000002)
(scrub_scale (* 999.0 9.9))

(tex_k 19366.0)
(tex_d 9.6)

(FL_tex (+ (* road_scale FL_road) (* brk_scale FL_brk) (* brk_scale FL_crnr) (* bump_scale FL_bump) (* scrub_scale FL_scrub)))
(FR_tex (+ (* road_scale FR_road) (* brk_scale FR_brk) (* brk_scale FR_crnr) (* bump_scale FR_bump) (* scrub_scale FR_scrub)))

(tex (+ FL_tex FR_tex))
(tex (* tex track_road_noise device_road_noise))

(tex (soft_clip tex 1.0 0.0))

# Engine Primary ---------------------------------------------

(max_rps 8000.0)
(rps_scale ( / crankshaft max_rps))
(rps_scale ( power rps_scale 0.8))
(rps_scale (min rps_scale 0.02))
(rps_scale (max rps_scale 0.14))

(load_mult (+ 0.8 throttle))
(load_mult (max load_mult 1.0))

(engine_vibe (sin crankPos))
(engine_vibe ( * load_mult engine_vibe rps_scale engine_scale))
(feel ( + tex engine_vibe))

# Engine Secondary ---------------------------------------------
(engine_vibration 12)
(engine_vibration_while_driving 4)
(cvwd (- 100 (* engine_vibration_while_driving (/ 100 engine_vibration))))
(engine (oscillator (* (* crankshaft 0.015) 0.2152)))
(engine (* (- 1.0 (* (crossover vel_mag 0.4 1.0) (* cvwd 0.01))) engine))
(engine (* (* engine_vibration 0.0015) engine))
(feel (+ feel engine))

# Gearbox --------------------------------------------
(gearbox (oscillator (* (abs (- driveshaft_core clutchshaft_core)) 1.0)))
(gearbox (* gearbox gearbox_grind clutch 1.0))
(gearbox (spring gearbox 16000.0 0.9 1.0))
(gearbox (* gearbox 1.5))

(feel (+ feel gearbox))

############################################################################
###########################################################################

(rack ( + rack ( * feel fx 0.8)))

(output (* rack gain))

# Scaler as informational only, doesnt affect output -
(scale_window_init 10.0)
(scale_window_nominal 2.0)
(scale_soft_clear_t 10.0)
(scale_min 0.2)
(scale_max 2.0)
(scale_blend_t 2.0)
(signal_scale output
1.0 1.0 1.0 1.0 1.0
0.0
0.0 0.0)


##lock_stops
(stops (bumpstop output 0.05 1.0 0.05 0.0))
(output (+ output (* stops device_lock_stop)))


######################################################
######################################################
##(LOW FORCE BOOST)
################

(output ( lfb output))

######################################################
######################################################

(output (hard_clip (* output gain) 1.0))

(histogram output)

 

It’s a bit of a strange conversion from early PC2 customs that file.

you could try small increase in (brk scale ) but that looks like it’s more a vibration effect.

In that PC2 language , the fx axis will contribute to brake or longitudinal force .

and the fz axis is more to do with suspension vertical loads.

neither of them have any kind of multiplying like the other axis inputs.
So maybe you could try adding them into the fx because looking at it , they aren’t even actively bound to any form of slider like Fx nor are they having any connection to final rack output unless I’m missing something , and once active , who knows what might happen.

I think the only output you are feeling is just coming from the base Reiza Rack. .

I’d proceed with caution if at all with this file.

 

Thanks
This profile really allows user to feel rotation if the car , good detail too
But would like to add a couple of other components

 

Glad you like it! Remember to lower the front load feel in the file to 0.5 if FWD cars feel too heavy..

 

Hi, I am using TS-PC (with ferrari 488 wheel) but the FFB in AMS2 doesnt feel right but I cant say what feeling is missing.
In R3E for example the ffb feels right and good for me.
Any recommendations what settings on TM Control panel and ingame works fine ?
Maybe there are other ts-pc users who can tell me their settings and tell me if they use custom_ffb file or default+

Thanks !

 

Another TS PC user found my TR300 file to be good so it might suit you (see attachment).

I recommend using in game:
Gain 100
FX 45
LFB 0
Damping 0

TM control panel
Gain 75 (give or take)
Periodic forces 100 (cant remember the exact names)
Spring 0
Damping 0

 

@124036 - In another thread Nolive721 posted the below settings which are almost exactly like mine (less in game Damper for me).

Default+

Gain: 80
Low Force Boost: 15
FX: 35
Damper 50+ depending on the car power steering type

He did recommended to set all TM's Control Panel settings to 100% except for Auto Center set at recommended.

 

I tested this file to very good results on TS-PC (but with different in-game setings).

It is the first file (as far as I can remember) that simulates front locking as it should - a strong loss of FFB force, visually coherent with car behaviour. Also the scrubbing is just right, antecipating a catrastophic loss of grip very well.
I guess, for now, I'll stick to it and just go racing instead of spending my time testing and adjusting custom files...

 

I really don't think "Detailed Gain Settings" do anything in modern sims, but I may be wrong.
On the other hand, BOOST must be OFF (default) and auto-center to "by the game".

An in-game gain of 70 works well with car specific to ~80%, or else too much clipping can occour.
I'll probably put in-game gain to 60 and have cars at ~100%.

 

THank you very much for your feedback ! Can you tell me what are your settings at TM CP ? 100% Gain ? Damper-settings seems to doesnt matter right ?

 

Greetings,
I have a friend who has a Virtual Racing School DD base. If anyone has this DD, would you mind posting the wheelbase settings and in-game FFB settings? He purchased AMS2 and I thought I'd at least, try here. If not, I'll direct him here to fish through the pages of this thread.
I figure default in-game settings would be a first step, and then direct him towards one of the community custom files.
Cheers

 

After five or six month break from AMS2 it feels so good to be back driving this wonderful sim and of course testing different custom FFB files that has been posted here in the past few months.

Recently released V1.4 update finally got me excited and motivated again of this sim, so now was a perfect time to end my lengthy break .

I'm happy to see that these custom FFB files are still getting better and better. The dedicated people here developing and posting their versions of custom FFB files are doing very good job, keep it going.

For the record from all these custom FFB files recently released here my #1 favourite at the moment is definitely @Stakanov 's latest version (V.1.4, with yaw) of "FFB ATMOS 4.1 (4xFX.1WHEEL)" custom FFB file. After couple of my own tweaks for this custom FFB file (just increased/decreased some values to make it fit better for my wheelbase, that's all) it now feels so excellent on my SC2 Sport wheelbase that it helped me to make two new lap records in Time Trial leaderboards earlier this evening.

My in-game FFB settings:
Gain: 35
LFB: 5
FX: 20
Damping: 20

My True Drive settings can be found here:
Or from this direct link to screenshot: http://www.dropbox.com/s/z7dxyztzgk...record_07-09-22_true_drive_settings.png?raw=1

I have also uploaded the tweaked file in this post in case someone wants to try it out.

First lap record of this evening was made in Laguna Seca with the Corvette C8R (GTE class):

http://www.dropbox.com/s/x7hcjzfxp2...una_seca_tumi_world_record_07-09-22.png?raw=1
http://www.dropbox.com/s/r047zavylq..._world_record_07-09-22_sector_times.png?raw=1

And the second one for this evening was made in Hockenheim with the F-Ultimate Gen 2:

http://www.dropbox.com/s/67spmy9a81...ckenheim_tumi_world_record_07-09-22.png?raw=1
http://www.dropbox.com/s/tv94p53yqw..._world_record_07-09-22_sector_times.png?raw=1

 

Hi @tUMi

nice to see you .

 

Hello @Kuku Maddog

Nice to see you here as well. Although I really haven't been away from here, to be honest, even I haven't posted anything here for a while.

I've been monitoring this thread all this time I've been away from the sim, just to keep myself up to date on things. Although it's nice to know that someone here actually missed me.

 

Hey Everyone.
before the AMS2 Upadet 1.4 , I was so happy with rFuktor 5.0.1 V42 on Fanatec CSL DD. Everything was so crisp and clear. You guys do such a great Job.

But after the 1.4 Update it feels cheap to me like driving with a rubber band. Same with standart and standart+.
Has anyone the same exprience?

Thanks

 

I have a CSL DD 8nm, and I am using Danielkart's recent custom file.

After the 1.4 update FFB felt very poor. Deleting / renaming Documents/Automobilista 2 folder sorted my problems. This was about the 3rd or 4th time I had to do this since early access.

Tip: If you rename the folder, you can then copy it back over if it does not solve your problems, or you can copy specific files like graphicsconfig.xml etc. if it does work. Be aware that you will need to reconfigure many settings, so it might be worth taking photos of your settings screens.

 

Hi everyone,
i am also reader of this thread for quite some time and i also tried many of the custom files. Before the update i was quite happy with the V39 from Danielkart and it felt really nice on my T300RS.
After the update i was not happy with it anymore so i tried to find good FFB settings for Default+. The FFB also got some tweaks with the update, right.

At the moment i am quite happy with these ingame settings:
Gain: 75 %
LFB: 40 %
FX: 50 %
Damper: 0 %
In the TM Panel is use 100 % for all sliders except for Auto-Center and of course no Boost.
I also use the permanent fan mode.

GTE, GT3, GT4, GT1, Formula Ultimates, F-USA, Trucks, Copa Classic B (this is really fun) felt really nice with these settings. My favorite car is definitely the Porsche GTE.

I never got the chance to try a DD wheel or any comparison from friends or so, so i just have to make it feel nice for me and have fun with it. I can also not tell if it feels realistic because i have never tried a single car from AMS2 irl.

Maybe some other T300 users could try my settings and tell me what they think about it.