Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

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  1. ricxx

    ricxx Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    You just need to check the last 10 pages or so, several people posted their latest files.
     
  2. tUMi

    tUMi Active Member

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    @Kuku Maddog I've tested your 5.0.1K tune (originally you posted/linked this tune on this thread in the end of July) last weekend when I returned to AMS2 after lenghty break.

    My first impression about the tune? Well, before my break from AMS2 I was using your 5.0.1.3 yaw tweak tune for quite some time with very good results (that was before the V1.4 update came along). So, from the beginning your 5.0.1K tune felt quite promising, to be honest. From the feedback it gave me through my wheelbase I noticed almost straight away that the focus on 5.0.1K tune has clearly been on tyre feel more than anything else. It didn't felt harsh or overwhelming at all in any way, it didn't produce any annoying or useless effects. This is good news for someone like me who cares about getting faster lap times. Some people here already know that I'm a pure Time Trial driver in AMS2.

    However, the overall light and weak feel of the 5.0.1K (to my taste, anyway) made me put the tune aside for the time being as I went to test out other tunes, such as @Danielkart 's already famous and popular V44 tune and @Stakanov 's ATMOS tune. Both of these are good tunes overall and it's no wonder they're both so popular among people who are using custom FFB files.

    Actually for a while I did already settle with the latest Stakanov's ATMOS tune (V.1.4) as I managed to did some fast lap times while using it (I tweaked that tune bit so it would perform better with my SC2 Sport wheelbase) but it still had that certain harsh feel I couldn't get completely get rid of, such as the hard hitting kerbs/sausages that occationally caused nasty, almost violent rattling noise to my wheelbase. Also it felt pretty heavy to turn sometimes that it did put me in disadvantage on certain types of corners. Daniel's tune however I couldn't dial in at all to perform at it's full potential on my wheelbase (had issues with constantly shaking/vibrating wheel when driving through the corner) so I had to give up with it quite quickly.

    Today I decided to give Kuku's 5.0.1K one last shot. So I opened up the file and tweaked some parameters and values from here and there (don't ask what exactly was tweaked, I don't even remember anymore what changes I made there :p). Then I went to the track and boom! After fine-tuning the difference in FFB is like day and night (to my taste, anyway). The 5.0.1K tune feels absolutely awesome now. :) It's funny that such a small changes in values can make so much of a difference.

    I'd say the 5.0.1K tune has more "beefed up" feel now which was exactly what I was hoping to achieve with my fine-tuning, that excessive light and weak feeling when turning the steering wheel is now gone. Driving in Time Trial mode with this tune loaded felt almost like cheating, driving through the corners in Laguna Seca with the GTE class car feels now so precise and elastic especially in slow and mid speed corners. The difference is huge compared to the ATMOS tune I used earlier which occationally felt too heavy at certain situations where you needed a quick change in steering input. It feels so easy now to just pick the driving line into the corner, make the correct steering inputs, drive through the corner and at the same time while doing it, driving feels so natural and at the same time I get a good feel from what the tyre is actually doing in all driving situations. This tune is definitely like a secret weapon for those who cares about getting their lap times faster. The best way to describe the driving experience now is that the car seems to do exactly that you want it to do. :)

    So earlier this evening I have set another new lap record on Laguna Seca on GTE class using this tune (with my tweaks applied in it). Once again you have done excellent work with your tune, Kuku. :) Keep up the good work! :cool:

    I have uploaded my fine-tuned variant of Kuku's 5.0.1K here on this post so that anyone could try it out if interested. ;)

    My in-game FFB settings (small changes have been made to them since last time I posted them here earlier this week):
    Gain: 35
    LFB: 5
    FX: 25
    Damping: 30

    My True Drive settings have remained the same (link to screenshot): http://www.dropbox.com/s/z7dxyztzgk...record_07-09-22_true_drive_settings.png?raw=1

    My new lap record earlier today was made by using Kuku's 5.0.1K tune (with my tweaks applied) in Laguna Seca with the Porsche 911 RSR GTE (links to screenshots):

    http://www.dropbox.com/s/5a6ylmhlmf...una_seca_tumi_world_record_09-09-22.png?raw=1
    http://www.dropbox.com/s/wxhd3d7bwp..._world_record_09-09-22_sector_times.png?raw=1

    Try the one uploaded in my post. It should work well for SC2 Pro as well.
     

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  3. TrigMan59

    TrigMan59 Active Member

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    Hi 124036. Did you try out the custom file from @Thompsonbra on your TS-PC Racer Ferrari 488 Edition Wheel? I have the same exact wheel and wondered how it was working for you. Please let me know, thanks.

    Roger
     
  4. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Nice work Tumi.

    I do realize it may be on the lighter side in standard trim, I have to moderate forces and vibration due to my situation of having a non-fixed rig ( office chair and desk ) and close proximity to others meaning I can't have strong vibes intruding on others late at night. It doesnt mean I can't feel everything, it's just not obtrusive.
    So yes this is just a final tune I did primarily for myself, and it hasnt changed in months. I just enjoy driving and I have lots of other things on to focus on around the Sim.

    I have included your tweak into the Folder and will update links etc .
    Thank you very much Tumi, hopefully it helps others. :)
     

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  5. Guilherme Bencke

    Guilherme Bencke New Member

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    Hi there, a couple of questions:

    1. What does the "yaw" in the Atmos FFB do?
    2. What does the "tighten" setting do?
    3. I use a CSL DD, should I set tighten to zero? Are there any other settings that work better for DD users?
     
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  6. tUMi

    tUMi Active Member

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    Thank you very much for adding my tweak into your ZIP archive, much appreciated! Hopefully my tweak will be the answer to those who finds your original 5.0.1K feeling too weak to their liking. Even after adding that extra "oomph" and character to your tune, my tweak still remains faithful to your original tune as it doesn't change the fundamental base of the original one which I believe is the most important thing in this case. :)

    Actually, your non-fixed rig and other people in close proximity explains a lot about the nature of your tune. In those situations you don't want to build a tune that contains too strong vibes as it could easily become distractive to others living in the house. It's perfectly understandable. After all, you did this tune to match your personal taste and needs and not for the general public in the first place. ;)

    Now with my tweak added to the ZIP archive, it might be even more attractive option for the public, at least people will now have options to choose from. I hope this help others with their journey finding a suitable FFB for themselves. ;)
     
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  7. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    we recently got a new puppy and she would wake up and bark when i hit a sausage kerb or wall :(
    it’s amazing how loud vibes can be when you take your headphones off :D
     
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  8. NBrembo

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  9. NBrembo

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    @tUMi great work here, this file supperb even on my g27. only added some center tightness and wow!
     
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  10. tUMi

    tUMi Active Member

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    Thank you, @NBrembo. :) It's important to have feedback not only from the DD or high end belt driven wheel users but also from the low end/budget wheel users as well. Glad to hear that Kuku's 5.0.1K tune with my tweaks applied is also suitable to use with the gear driven Logitech wheels, very encouraging news. :)

    But all the credit should really go to @Kuku Maddog as he is the true mastermind behind this tune and of course @Karsten Hvidberg for creating the original rFuktor 5.0.1. I just gave Kuku's tune some more love, resulting it to have just a bit more "oomph" for us who likes a have a bit stronger FFB. ;)

    By the way, @NBrembo, could you also share here your in-game FFB settings (Gain/LFB/FX/Damping) and your Logitech driver settings as well? This information could help other people with similar gear to have their FFB dialed in properly if they choose to use these files for themselves.
     
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  11. AxisMagi

    AxisMagi Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Thanks Tumi! Nice work on tweaking Kuku's tune adding more detail. It's really feeling sweet and easy to sense the limit. For once I'm actually feeling satisfied with the FFB enough to just leave it be and enjoy the racin haha. It's been quite the cat and mouse development always chasing, the new physics update is fantastic and hopefully things will be more stable from here.
     
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  12. tUMi

    tUMi Active Member

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    Hello @AxisMagi and you're welcome, I'm glad you like the tweaked tune! ;)

    I certainly hope too that Reiza won't bring any drastic updates regarding physics so we all could spend more time rather on the track enjoying the sim than doing constant tinkering around and testing with these files. :D

    And also I wish that Reiza would stop resetting lap times on Time Trial leaderboards, it has happened already twice since AMS2 existed! :mad: I really hope that V1.4 update was the last reset on Time Trial, one can only hope...
     
  13. FearFactor

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    Hi all

    I need your help because i am not sure attm.
    As the update 1.4 came out (first version) ive installed rFuktor 5.0.1.3 from the second post here.
    This was a huge step and it was awesome after few small personal tweaks.

    I have an TS-PC but today tried to drive few cars and it feels kinda not the same.
    Dont know if that last patch change something?

    So now ive read here is another setting from Kuku?
    Is this then better than rFuktor 5.0.1.3?
    Or do someone know what maybe if the last patch has a impact on the settings?
     
  14. tUMi

    tUMi Active Member

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    My suggestion to you is to download Kuku's latest ZIP archive which contains his latest 5.0.1K file and my tweaked version of it from the last page on this thread (page 282).

    Just to be sure, you could delete your Automobilista 2 folder from My Documents folder (it resets game settings to default) before applying Kuku's new file. Hopefully it will work for you as well.
     
  15. FearFactor

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    Ok thanks. I know with the deleting/backup of profiles folder. But i will check the Kukus settings just to have an compare.

    Meanwhile ive tested it on the cars were i am 100% sure that it worked well and it seems to be ok.
    I drove also the F1 Gen3 Model2 and this was my point why i was bothered. This car do not feel so grippy like it was before and the forces on the wheel were lower as i had in mind.
    The rFuktor 5.0.1.3 seems to be ok so far.
    Strange.
     
  16. tUMi

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    This is propably caused by one or more of the V1.4 updates recently released by Reiza. Many of the car physics has been revised which means some of the cars won't feel the same as they were before the update.

    I've been told by few fellow Time Trial drivers that one of my old favourite cars, the McLaren MP4/12 (F-V10 Gen 1 class), has drastically changed after V1.4, it ain't nowhere near as grippy as it was before (haven't tested it myself yet but that's what I have been told). The old car setups before V1.4 doesn't work anymore as they used to work and that's because of changes in car physics, at least that's the case with this particular car.

    So I'm pretty sure that this is the phenomenom that you have been experiencing here. Propably has nothing to do with the custom FFB files or even FFB settings.
     
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  17. Sims Alabim

    Sims Alabim Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Hey! G29 user here. What parameters do you change for that center tightness...?
    Edit: Or maybe @tUMi can help out?
     
  18. tUMi

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    I believe it's this line in the file, within "Rack settings" department:

    Not entirely sure is that the correct parameter to edit but it doesn't hurt to try. ;)
     
  19. Sims Alabim

    Sims Alabim Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Thanks! I'll try that one. I'm also seeing (tighten_range and (tighten_falloff to be used with lower end wheelbases, but have no clue what it does o_O Both are set to 0 in the file you posted.
     
  20. tUMi

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    Unfortunetaly I have no clue about those as well, @Kuku Maddog is an expert on these things, he knows better. However I do remember that I certainly didn't touch those parameters you mentioned when I made my tweaks to that file I posted earlier.

    However, you can try to edit the values in those lines as well if you like. You can always revert back to the original values, if changing those values doesn't end up with a pleasant end result.
     
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