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Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. Guilherme Bencke

    Guilherme Bencke New Member

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    Hi there, a couple of questions:

    1. What does the "yaw" in the Atmos FFB do?
    2. What does the "tighten" setting do?
    3. I use a CSL DD, should I set tighten to zero? Are there any other settings that work better for DD users?
     
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  2. tUMi

    tUMi Active Member

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    Thank you very much for adding my tweak into your ZIP archive, much appreciated! Hopefully my tweak will be the answer to those who finds your original 5.0.1K feeling too weak to their liking. Even after adding that extra "oomph" and character to your tune, my tweak still remains faithful to your original tune as it doesn't change the fundamental base of the original one which I believe is the most important thing in this case. :)

    Actually, your non-fixed rig and other people in close proximity explains a lot about the nature of your tune. In those situations you don't want to build a tune that contains too strong vibes as it could easily become distractive to others living in the house. It's perfectly understandable. After all, you did this tune to match your personal taste and needs and not for the general public in the first place. ;)

    Now with my tweak added to the ZIP archive, it might be even more attractive option for the public, at least people will now have options to choose from. I hope this help others with their journey finding a suitable FFB for themselves. ;)
     
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  3. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    we recently got a new puppy and she would wake up and bark when i hit a sausage kerb or wall :(
    it’s amazing how loud vibes can be when you take your headphones off :D
     
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  5. NBrembo

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    @tUMi great work here, this file supperb even on my g27. only added some center tightness and wow!
     
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  6. tUMi

    tUMi Active Member

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    Thank you, @NBrembo. :) It's important to have feedback not only from the DD or high end belt driven wheel users but also from the low end/budget wheel users as well. Glad to hear that Kuku's 5.0.1K tune with my tweaks applied is also suitable to use with the gear driven Logitech wheels, very encouraging news. :)

    But all the credit should really go to @Kuku Maddog as he is the true mastermind behind this tune and of course @Karsten Hvidberg for creating the original rFuktor 5.0.1. I just gave Kuku's tune some more love, resulting it to have just a bit more "oomph" for us who likes a have a bit stronger FFB. ;)

    By the way, @NBrembo, could you also share here your in-game FFB settings (Gain/LFB/FX/Damping) and your Logitech driver settings as well? This information could help other people with similar gear to have their FFB dialed in properly if they choose to use these files for themselves.
     
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  7. AxisMagi

    AxisMagi Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Thanks Tumi! Nice work on tweaking Kuku's tune adding more detail. It's really feeling sweet and easy to sense the limit. For once I'm actually feeling satisfied with the FFB enough to just leave it be and enjoy the racin haha. It's been quite the cat and mouse development always chasing, the new physics update is fantastic and hopefully things will be more stable from here.
     
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  8. tUMi

    tUMi Active Member

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    Hello @AxisMagi and you're welcome, I'm glad you like the tweaked tune! ;)

    I certainly hope too that Reiza won't bring any drastic updates regarding physics so we all could spend more time rather on the track enjoying the sim than doing constant tinkering around and testing with these files. :D

    And also I wish that Reiza would stop resetting lap times on Time Trial leaderboards, it has happened already twice since AMS2 existed! :mad: I really hope that V1.4 update was the last reset on Time Trial, one can only hope...
     
  9. FearFactor

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    Hi all

    I need your help because i am not sure attm.
    As the update 1.4 came out (first version) ive installed rFuktor 5.0.1.3 from the second post here.
    This was a huge step and it was awesome after few small personal tweaks.

    I have an TS-PC but today tried to drive few cars and it feels kinda not the same.
    Dont know if that last patch change something?

    So now ive read here is another setting from Kuku?
    Is this then better than rFuktor 5.0.1.3?
    Or do someone know what maybe if the last patch has a impact on the settings?
     
  10. tUMi

    tUMi Active Member

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    My suggestion to you is to download Kuku's latest ZIP archive which contains his latest 5.0.1K file and my tweaked version of it from the last page on this thread (page 282).

    Just to be sure, you could delete your Automobilista 2 folder from My Documents folder (it resets game settings to default) before applying Kuku's new file. Hopefully it will work for you as well.
     
  11. FearFactor

    FearFactor New Member

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    Ok thanks. I know with the deleting/backup of profiles folder. But i will check the Kukus settings just to have an compare.

    Meanwhile ive tested it on the cars were i am 100% sure that it worked well and it seems to be ok.
    I drove also the F1 Gen3 Model2 and this was my point why i was bothered. This car do not feel so grippy like it was before and the forces on the wheel were lower as i had in mind.
    The rFuktor 5.0.1.3 seems to be ok so far.
    Strange.
     
  12. tUMi

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    This is propably caused by one or more of the V1.4 updates recently released by Reiza. Many of the car physics has been revised which means some of the cars won't feel the same as they were before the update.

    I've been told by few fellow Time Trial drivers that one of my old favourite cars, the McLaren MP4/12 (F-V10 Gen 1 class), has drastically changed after V1.4, it ain't nowhere near as grippy as it was before (haven't tested it myself yet but that's what I have been told). The old car setups before V1.4 doesn't work anymore as they used to work and that's because of changes in car physics, at least that's the case with this particular car.

    So I'm pretty sure that this is the phenomenom that you have been experiencing here. Propably has nothing to do with the custom FFB files or even FFB settings.
     
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  13. Reodor Phelgen

    Reodor Phelgen Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Hey! G29 user here. What parameters do you change for that center tightness...?
    Edit: Or maybe @tUMi can help out?
     
  14. tUMi

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    I believe it's this line in the file, within "Rack settings" department:

    Not entirely sure is that the correct parameter to edit but it doesn't hurt to try. ;)
     
  15. Reodor Phelgen

    Reodor Phelgen Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Thanks! I'll try that one. I'm also seeing (tighten_range and (tighten_falloff to be used with lower end wheelbases, but have no clue what it does o_O Both are set to 0 in the file you posted.
     
  16. tUMi

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    Unfortunetaly I have no clue about those as well, @Kuku Maddog is an expert on these things, he knows better. However I do remember that I certainly didn't touch those parameters you mentioned when I made my tweaks to that file I posted earlier.

    However, you can try to edit the values in those lines as well if you like. You can always revert back to the original values, if changing those values doesn't end up with a pleasant end result.
     
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  17. AxisMagi

    AxisMagi Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Also something that Kuku mentions in his zip file setup notes really made a big difference for me for center feeling.

    "An often overlooked setting is the in game Steering sensitivty in the control configuration, I personally find that i have a bit of a deadzone with it set to 50, and like to run it at 75 in most cases"

    I'm running mine at 60 with Simucube2 and it's great.
     
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  18. tUMi

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    I noticed the same. I'm running mine at 75 with my Simucube 2 Sport wheelbase and it works beautifully.
     
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  19. Reodor Phelgen

    Reodor Phelgen Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Thank you both for your suggestions, tried them all. Unfortunately doesn't do much on my G29. Seems like there's a lot more deadzone after the latest update, both on default and custom files. Deleted documents, even did a full re-install, but no. Maybe someone else with a G29 here experiencing the same, or know what parameters to change? Thanks!
     
  20. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Tightening for Gear wheels is a black art, and can vary from one unit to the next, there’s not a one value to fix all. And without a Gear wheel it’s not possible to test, but I remember some if the experience when I had one .

    I think the range is normally in the tightening range of 0.12 - 0.16 and fall of is usually a tenth of that roughly. so fall off of 0.012 - 0.016 , but then some might find better values that aren’t exact, like 0.02 or 0.04

    I have heard reports of a GHub update in the last week , that stuffed up a lot of G wheels.
    It’s best to ditch GHub and find a older version of Logitech Gaming Software.
     

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