Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Hi Michael! Yes it is the power of your base that works differently. Exactly for this reason (also others) I have written different files since the V50 for different power ranges. This will also be the case with the V80 files that are to come, but there will no longer be any differences between belt bases and dd bases. The power of a base is critical and important in order to tune it to physics. An example: my V70 file for 8-30Nm works with less force than the file with 5-8Nm and the file 2-5Nm works with the highest forces. The lower the force of a base, the higher the forces in the file must be. With your Logitech you lose about 3-4Nm so you need to choose a file with higher powers. As you have already noticed, with the V70 file 5-8Nm is more suitable for your Logitech. Of course you can also try to write your own file. But it takes a lot of time and a lot of testing - there are countless possibilities and factors in a custom file that should be taken into account. Decide according to your feelings

 

I can recommend to give all the files a go and see which ones feel best to you. I‘m on a CSL DD and I‘m liking the file for stronger wheel bases much more.

 

Yes, I will also recommend testing the stronger and the weaker file for the V80 files. The bases work very differently with the powers (notably Logitech). I also know of many Csl dd (8Nm) users using 5-8Nm file, but there are also many using 8-30Nm file. Ultimately, personal taste counts, whether it's default or custom files

 

I tried the Default and Default+ yesterday and I have to say I can see myself using them for a while. Quite liked them, even without fiddling with damper, Fx etc. Plenty of options ^^

 

Yes, in my opinion, defaults now behave much more believably and have become much more like customs files than they used to. Nevertheless, I'll stay with the Customs for the time being because I still don't like certain things about the defaults. And with the Customs, I can realize exactly my preferences and my personal taste. But a huge step forward for the defaults I agree with you

 

I had to go back to default+ with beta. Danielkart one (DD up to 8Nm), which I really love, unfortunately does weird thing there: the wheel becomes progressively heavier as you turn it more and more.

 

Hallo Daniel eine Frage ?
Kann ich deine FFB Files einfach so in den AMS2 Dokumente Ordner einfügen... oder muss die Orginal Datei Umgeschrieben werden ? Mit Kopieren , Löschen und neu einfügen. Habe deine V70 Version viel genutzt. Doch derzeit verwende ich das Reiza FFB. Oder gibt es Tipps das ich dein V70 noch weiter benutzen kann. Lg Gehn Raus

 

Du kannst die V70 Datei einfach in den Dokumente Ordner legen. Sie sollte dann ffb_custom_settings.txt heissen. Wenn Du mal mehrere Files hintereinander testen möchtest, empfehle ich Dir das Madness Tool - Custom FFB and Profile Manager . Damit kannst Du Profile für die verschiedenen Files anlegen und brauchst nicht jedes mal den Filenamen anpassen, wenn Du wechseln möchtest. ;-)

 

Hey Super Danke dir für die Schnelle Anwort Top

 

I'm a fan of the pure rack feeling that the original custom FFB file gives. However, it appears to have some sort of 'soft' clip on some cars. Example is the F Ultimate Gen 2 and the BMW GTE. The FFB bar in the telemetry UI seems to clip at around 50% in these cars. Is this a bug, or is it intended? Any idea what values I can tweak in the FFB file to remove this clipping?

For reference, I'm using a Simucube 2 Pro at 100% strength. In game is 30 gain and 40 damping.

 

Hello !If I understood you correctly, you take Basic FFB.The problem has nothing to do with your FFB, it would also be wrong with the defaults or a custom file.The problem is your in-game settings on the base and in the game.With your settings you lose almost the entire FFB range, which is why you also see these errors in the FFB graph.With the right settings you will get the full FFB again
On your Simucube 2 Pro, change the gain to about 50% (12.5Nm Peaks) and the damping to about 20%. In the game the gain is about 68% and damping to 0%. This will solve your problem

 

Hi Daniel! Thanks, I will try those settings later today and let you know how it goes.

 

Many people make the mistake of running their base at 100% and then driving at a very low level in the game. I also always run at 70% on base.

 

I think a lot of people think 100% gain on the base is full FFB. Yes, it makes sense for bases up to about 10-12Nm. With these forces it is possible to simulate the full force with the full FFB. But if the forces get even higher, this is no longer possible and the ideal range for the base should be found. Only then can the FFB also simulate its 100% and will not be cut or clipping will occur

 

Sorry, I gave you the wrong values with gain, I've corrected them now

 

Thanks Daniel, those values feel much better all round. Still some light clipping, but not really a problem now. Thanks again!

 

Maybe raise your ingame Damper only so high, until it stops clipping.

 

Yes that is a possibility. Also, the vehicle specific FFB can be used to avoid clipping (every car behaves differently). There are of course many other factors that can cause clipping. As mentioned, the main cause is wrong gain values at the base and in the game. Then FX is also an important point (but now only in the Custom Files). Damping also a little (for me personally) as little as possible to get as much pure FFB as possible. And finally, wheel choice (size, weight, leverage) all factors to increase or decrease clipping. That's why I put a lot of focus on clipping with the V80 Customs. Finding balance is the key to feeling good on the wheel and enjoying the FFB

 

Is there a difference In keeping the base at 70-80% and in game at 100% compared to the reverse scenario?

 

It's not quite the same due to clipping and the FFB signal having finite precision. A balance of things needs to be considered:

• If the game output is too low compared to the maximum possible, then you lose FFB precision because the signal has finite precision (sort of bad).
• If the game output is too high compared to the maximum possible and clips, then you lose information (bad).
• If a DD wheelbase is at 100% and the game bugs out and sends maximum force, then you're getting hurt (very bad).