Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Got a chance to try out Danielkart’s V80 FFB custom file, and first off, it's definitely what I've been looking for. Feels just as I wanted it too, seriously amazing work on this. However, I noticed it's not just the feel that's improved for me, but also the car control itself. A problem I've always had is the feeling of cars being unstable and shifting around a lot on the tires which is quite different from what I expect in any sim, but this file completely removes that behavior and cars feel a lot more stable to drive. It's interesting to see how a FFB file can make such a difference, curious how it's possible.

 

Bad ffb will trick you into thinking the car is doing something when in fact it isn't, that's why.

 

The inner workings of these custom ffb files are very complex but, more detailed ffb-effects aside, the fundamentals are actually pretty basic at the wheel. Much of how we interpret car-handling through ffb has to do with timing and force of the self-aligning torque effect. If the timing is off, so is our sense of control.

 

So, would you say that timing is off on the Default and Default+ files? I'm very curious to know since this has been one of the most significant changes in AMS2's handling characteristics since I've been active in the sim.

 

No, not at all but, Damping will influence the wheel response (speed) with whatever profile is in use. If wheel response is too fast / increase Damping (AMS2 ffb). If wheel response is slow (feels like it's lagging behind) / decrease Damping.

Custom files may have adjusted damping levels so, they may require different Damping settings compared to default profiles.

 

Ah, I'll definitely be playing with this a bit more. AMS2's FFB has always been tough for me to dial in correctly, I'll definitely play with the dampening a bit more. The default profiles feel really jerky in the center and it whips the car around.

 

V1.3 of the custom FFB collection is posted (see post #6400 on p. 320). Moved all of Daniel's previous versions to the Z-Appendix earlier rFuktor versions folder, plus a few other earlier ones, and added TomP's G29 tune.

As we await the arrive of V1.5, consider the tremendous amount of community effort that went into all of these custom-FFB files during AMS2's first three formative years.

 

Hi, is there a DEFAULT/DEFAULT+ "Template" to start a custom FFb file ?

 

Not really, other than the basic rackforce file (Reiza's custom) that comes standard with the sim. The actual code for the Default & Default+ profiles that adds vibration, tire scrub, etc. components to the basic model is rather black box stuff at the moment.

Karsten & Co.'s rFuktor series seems to be the custom "template" of choice.

 

Since I was so impressed with the first '1.5 physics' cars since 1.4.8, I ventured down the FFB rabbit hole for the first time. I tried some custom files, like Karsten etc, but never really preferred them over Default to be honest. I read a little while ago in a post from @Theodore Schultz suggesting the Heavy Messing V2.5 file working nicely with the new physics. He suggested the Smooth variant, but you can try out all 3. That file did click instantly with me. And then the rabbit hole opened for me...

I've been working for about 2 weeks on my own adaptation of the file and matching base settings, extensively tested during the beta for the coming 1.5 update. I'm doing final testing and tweaking over the weekend now that all cars are getting their FFB finalized for release, preparing to share it here with you guys when the update drops.

 

Here's my modded V80 file for the csw2.5. I wasn't sure whether to post it or not but as you may know I always fiddle with these for my wheel, and i'm sure Daniel wouldn't mind.
I've removed the power steering value completely and tuned it to give more force on cornering to simulate G forces and added some flatspotting. Works well on all the 1.5 cars I tried and I get more feeling on slow corner exits.
Gain 50
Lfb 0
Fx 35
Damp 0

 

Exactly what I was thinking of changing. I'll give this a try.
Thank you.

 

Could be my imagination but the power steering setting made slow steering slightly vague, removing it seems to have sharpened it up making it more connected to the track.

 

This is really good on my Logitech DD wheel. Thanks for posting.

I raised rack force to .70, but not 100% sold on that.

In game: Gain 85, LFB 0, FX 30, Damp 0

Wheelbase: 11nm, Filter 11, Damp 5-25 (my initial impression is that this will need adjustment per car)

 

Glad you like it.

 

Looking forward to trying it. I'd used Heavy Messing file when it first came out about 3 years ago and it was ok at the time but as multiple other FFB files superseded it, and the game moved on, I didn't think I'd be using it again.

But I gave it another go recently and was amazed at how well it works with 1.5 physics on my Logitech G29. I just love the feel of it now. The only vehicles is doesn't work with for me are the trucks, where it's got a very strong pull to one side, then the other, like a slow pendulum effect.

 

Just Posting here so I can share file in Simucube True Drive Paddock Utility.
Simucube 2 Pro - for use with online True Drive Paddock Profile "AMS2 PM7"

In Game - Gain 25 - LFB 0 - FX 40

Now Based on the amazing work done by Joaquim Pereira

Original file here https://forum.reizastudios.com/attachments/ffb_custom_settings-fullffb-v8-txt.31048/

I'l be making minor tweaks to the file attached
Updated Jan 6 2024

 

Thanks for sharing. It's nice but for my taste too light in the center when turning. You can turn the wheel with one finger. Could you make a version between? with 50% back in? that could be pretty good.

 

Just got a Moza r9. What custom file do people here recommend?

 

Here is my V2 file for Logitech dd 11nm.
Might work good for other bases, i just don't know.
Base settings and in game settings are shown in the file.
Works great on dirt as well. Feels good to me anyways, and of course i am open to suggestions and criticism.