Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. Antonio Amarilla

    Antonio Amarilla New Member

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    The damping setting in-game is connected to the damping setting in the thrustmaster panel control?
     
  2. Racinglegend1234

    Racinglegend1234 AMS2 wiki founder AMS2 Club Member

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    No
     
  3. Dmand

    Dmand Active Member

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    The T300 was my old wheel. If i remember correctly, that wheel has a lot of natural friction because of the belt drive. I'm pretty sure i turned damper to 0 in the TM control panel on windows. LFB also had to be high i think
     
  4. Dmand

    Dmand Active Member

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    It either has the same amount of detail, a bit less detail, or a bit more detail. Totally depends on the tune. If you download a file and open it up, you will see it all the different options you can mess with by just changing a number.

    If you decide to do it, don't go crazy, try different files, see what feels the closest to optimal for you and then open the file to get it to where you want it. Not enough road texture feeling? Change the value in the file. Not enough road bump feeling? Change the value in the file....etc
     
  5. Antonio Amarilla

    Antonio Amarilla New Member

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    I also got it turned to 0, so let´s see what can I come up with now that i know a bit more. Thanks very much guys for the tips i´ll try as soon as possible :)
     
  6. nivekbs

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    Hi guys. In short - i must confess i was a long time away from AMS2 and addicted in another sim.
    Cerainly i decided to give AMS2 a next go, and i didn´t regret that. It was my most played game last weeks and that a big compliment to the game. Congrats how the game improved over the last year.


    Now to my issue - I was digging about the 329 sites now to find the right answer how i should setup my wheel for the v1.5. correctly. I found some guys with the same wheel discussion here, but somehow without result? Can it be or did i just missed that? sorry.

    So i drive the old good T300 right now with the following settings:

    gain 75 (+ - car depending)
    LFB 20
    FX 50
    Damping 20

    TM
    75
    100
    0 (spring)
    0 (damping)

    As it is i find the FFB really good. I have no complaines. But i read superior things about the ffb here and there, so i think ok - maybe my FFB could feel even much better with the right/better settings....
    So are there a "definitve" tips to setup the T300 or is it just to much an thing of personal preference?

    I think especially about the LFB and Damping ingame settings.

    Appriciate any comments. Thank you
     
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  7. Racinglegend1234

    Racinglegend1234 AMS2 wiki founder AMS2 Club Member

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    Do you use default FFB or custom?
     
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  8. AdrianJ

    AdrianJ Active Member

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    Everything great in my profile
    But the high downforce cars only feel the bumps a tad to much

    without having to adjust the fx slider back & forth each time is there setting in the custom profile that will sort it without losing/damping other effects ?
     
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  9. nivekbs

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    Sorry i forgot mentioning that. I tried default first but i sticked with default+ right now. Don`t know if its placebo or not, but i think it feels better.
    I tried a "rfuktor" custom one but that felt absolutely weired to me
     
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  10. Racinglegend1234

    Racinglegend1234 AMS2 wiki founder AMS2 Club Member

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    Have you tried Danielkart’s V80?
     
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  11. nivekbs

    nivekbs New Member

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    nope, but will do.
    As far i understood i have to choose the weakest option 2-5nM for my wheel.
    Cool will test later today and give a feedback here. thx
     
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  12. Racinglegend1234

    Racinglegend1234 AMS2 wiki founder AMS2 Club Member

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    You can choose whichever file, but I use the one optimised for my wheel torque
     
  13. RimasLeon

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    @Danielkart v80 file feels a bit strange for me. I use DD1 and all recomended settings in game and at the wheel, but for me lacks rear end info. And when rear wheels lose traction it is very difficult to catch the car. In the v70 file, it was better felt and easier to catch, the steering wheel itself reacted to the loss of grip in the wheel. Maybe i can tweek something abouth that? I think that if you somehow take the good features of v70 and v80, you will get a great file. Try to burn your rear tires and try to make a lap with v70 and v80 withouth a traction control and you will know what i am talking about. I only race GT3 cars.
     
  14. newtonpg

    newtonpg Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Please note I'm assuming FFB is a strictly personal choice and the good old T300 is a bit "better" then my good old TX.

    I set TM Control Panel at Default (see fig.).
    Ingame Gain 75-80, LFB 0-10, FX 0-10, Damping 0 (see fig.).
    Why Damping 0? Because Belt Driven Wheels have usually a lot of friction and don't need additional damping.
    Why Ingame Gain 75-80? First to avoid clipping and then, according to a recent post from Karsten H. we must give some room to the extra forces to act (see some posts above).

    Recent ingame FFB changes (Thanks Coanda!) are very good and Default or Default+ choice is at your taste. Note that not all vehicles have FFB fine tuned yet at b2323, take care to run tests using a v1.5 revised car (see Coanda's last report).

    Using any Default or Custom is a matter of preference. I'm using Daniel's v80_8Nm but any v80 will be ok. If using Default+ I set LFB =0 and FX =0.

    That's it. I'm not a specialist at all but a simple user.

    PS: Remember to calibrate your wheel and verify if it's rotation is followed by the virtual wheel.
     

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  15. nivekbs

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    Thanks for sharing your settings. As you already said, some settings are stricktly personal. For me fe. spring @100 in TM in a no go.
     
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  16. nivekbs

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    Tried it a bit the 1.4 2-5nM Version. Feels not bad, but everything above gain50 gives me hard clipping. And thats definetly not like it should be i suppose :eek:
     
  17. Dainamo

    Dainamo Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Got a chance to try out Danielkart’s V80 FFB custom file, and first off, it's definitely what I've been looking for. Feels just as I wanted it too, seriously amazing work on this. However, I noticed it's not just the feel that's improved for me, but also the car control itself. A problem I've always had is the feeling of cars being unstable and shifting around a lot on the tires which is quite different from what I expect in any sim, but this file completely removes that behavior and cars feel a lot more stable to drive. It's interesting to see how a FFB file can make such a difference, curious how it's possible.
     
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  18. JoKeR

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    Bad ffb will trick you into thinking the car is doing something when in fact it isn't, that's why.
     
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  19. Dean Ogurek

    Dean Ogurek "Love the Simulation You're Dreaming In." AMS2 Club Member

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    The inner workings of these custom ffb files are very complex but, more detailed ffb-effects aside, the fundamentals are actually pretty basic at the wheel. Much of how we interpret car-handling through ffb has to do with timing and force of the self-aligning torque effect. If the timing is off, so is our sense of control.
     
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  20. Dainamo

    Dainamo Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    So, would you say that timing is off on the Default and Default+ files? I'm very curious to know since this has been one of the most significant changes in AMS2's handling characteristics since I've been active in the sim.
     

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