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Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. Michael Phillips

    Michael Phillips Member AMS2 Club Member

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    curious what you set damper to, on wheel base and in game? I have the same wheel, going to give your file a go tonight.
     
  2. Dmand

    Dmand Active Member

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    I have it on 0 for both.
     
  3. madchief

    madchief Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Is there any dirt/rx specific settings to adjust in the ffb file? I'm using Danielkart's V80 and it's great stuff, however with the new offroad cars my wheel almost threw me outside the window even on 50% vehicle ffb
     
  4. Norman K.

    Norman K. Member

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    Do you guy´s have settings for T300 ?
     
  5. Full Pace

    Full Pace Full Pace Simracing AMS2 Club Member

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    Same here. I'd change to default for dirt races for now
     
  6. Br1am

    Br1am Member AMS2 Club Member

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    As promised a few days ago I would post my custom FFB file made to work with the new 1.5 update.

    I've called it Medium Messing, the Midrange special as I've based it on the Heavy Messing V2.5 by Nuscorpii, and took my time to rework the values to optimize specifically for 8Nm (or so) DD wheel bases, and bring out as much low and midrange information as possible, translating in more subtle tire information and a very connected road feel. All while preserving as much dynamic range as possible for lower powered DD wheel bases.

    I've made a longer explainer post HERE, to read more about how this file came to be and some recommendations on experimenting with different values. I made it during the beta test period leading up to 1.5. Feel free to try it regardless if you have a 8Nm DD, but I have no idea if it even remotely feels good on your setup.

    Final note, the .txt, in game and base settings all go hand in hand, so please try it accordingly. Thank you.

    In game and base settings
    Gain - 85
    LFB - 1
    FX - 50
    Damping - 25


    SEN - Auto
    FFB - 100
    FFS - Linear
    [please try this for a while, even if you always used Peak like I did!]
    NDP - Off
    NFR - Off
    NIN - 12
    INT - 1
    FEI - 100

    Disclaimer

    This is all based on personal preference. If it's not for you that is totally fine. If you like it, great!
     

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  7. Mfreak

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    Sorry for posting again here i didn't saw this thread.
    Is there a way to disable trueforce? i have a g923 i was using the command line disableTF, but i think it isn't working anymore can someone confirm?
     
  8. newtonpg

    newtonpg Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Slightly but important changes to my FFB settings.
    Now using @Danielkart v80 - 5Nm (as it was intended by the author) and given much more precise responses and gone are the vague center.

    Ingame:
    Gain above 90 stresses my wheel too much and also a lot of clipping. I suggest the window 65 to 85. My set is 75 (strong as I like it).
    LFB and FX window 0 to 10. My set is 1 for both.
    Damping 0 as in previous version.

    Very important:
    Assure your TM driver is up-to-date and strictly set to Default as advices FFB Guru @Karsten Hvidberg
     
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  9. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Have a little work in progress tune going if anyone wants to try it .
    haven’t settled on it yet , changes aren’t major .
    the tires have so much more flex feel from game now i’ve turned stretch feel down and am experimenting with the balance of it .

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  10. dMASS

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    Nice! I see you lowered texture scale, feels much better for me
     
  11. Joaquim Pereira

    Joaquim Pereira Well-Known Member

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    I tried this with my Thrustmaster TS-PC and it works great, the best I've tried.
    I'm waiting for a new wheelbase and I'm already crossing my fingers it will be as good as it is now.
    For those interested, I used 70-30-40-0 on ingame dials.
     
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  12. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    I dont mind a bit of texture feel.
    Im liking the balance feel better in this file.
     

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    @Kuku Maddog
    Thank you!
    Great file, very smooth, even little too much maybe (0 damping on R9, 16 before).
    Definitely the best I've already tried on 1.5 and one of the best in general, at least for me.
     
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  14. Joaquim Pereira

    Joaquim Pereira Well-Known Member

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    Will keep this in mind, I'll have an R12 and a KS wheel.;)

    The file from @Br1am seems to have better linearity with TS-PC.
    Both Kuku's and Daniel's give an almost spring, saturated effect with this wheelbase - I cannot feel the road oscilations while turning, like there's clipping somewhere - example, Kyalami turns 4 and 6, every car I tested. (Porsche and Mercedes GT1, USA Gen 2, Porsche GTE)

    Both Default+ and Br1am's give me oscilations everytime the visuals are oscilanting. And that's essential for connection feel (I'm using Legacy Head Movement, not the new one).
    Default+ is too slow and overreacting.
     
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  15. dMASS

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    I'm feeling roughness in the wheel when turning, tried turning up interpolation filter (smoothness) but it kind of removes too much detail. any suggestion as to how I can smoothen it out without loosing detail? hope that makes sense
     
  16. Joaquim Pereira

    Joaquim Pereira Well-Known Member

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    Make changes here (from Kuku's file):
    (for instance, try micro_bumps_scale 0 to see if that's the parameter you want to change, and go from here)

    ###########################################################
    #
    # Road features settings
    #

    (texture_scale 0.4)
    (micro_bumps_scale 0.275)
    (micro_bumps_smooth 0.008)

    (kerbs_surface_scale 5.5)
    (kerbs_surface_smooth 0.03)
    (kerb_bump_scale 2.5) #How big the tall curb bumps are.
    (large_track_bump_scale 0.1) #how much bumps on the track are felt.
    (large_offroad_bump_scale 0.2) #how much bumps off the track are felt.
     
  17. Dmand

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    Ooh sounds very good. I will try this today. I still need to try Daniels v80 file
     
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  18. RimasLeon

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    For me best file for now is @Daniel V70 for 1.5. V80 feels strange, no weight transfer feeling when hard braking. @Kuku Maddog last file not bad, but i dont feel car weight on that, and center bit soft to me.
     
  19. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Try reducing Smoothing here.

    (load_norm_wheel 500.0)
    (FL_load_norm (* FL_load_norm load_norm_wheel))
    (FR_load_norm (* FR_load_norm load_norm_wheel))

    #(m_FL_load FL_load_norm)
    #(m_FR_load FR_load_norm)
    (m_FL_load (smooth FL_load_norm 0.08))
    (m_FR_load (smooth FR_load_norm 0.08))

    Fx controls the scrub intensity, you may need to lower it with this file, its very much car and track surface dependent, so can be variable by small amounts.

    this can be increased , but will also add turning resistance on corner entry for heavy cars.
    (brake_feel_follow_weight 0.1)

    Centering can be increased also try 0.54
    (centering 0.5)
     
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  20. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Am not fully understanding what oscillations you a referring to , You maybe have quite different camara settings to myself . I use legacy also , but very little movements, it feels in sync to me. But not obtrusive over tire feel which is my priority.

    you can experiment with reducing smoothing like above, increasing track bump scales etc.
     

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