1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2020
    Messages:
    1,255
    Likes Received:
    1,647
    @Shadak , this is for your request to relax the center. Sorry I cannot attach in direct messages. After this, make sure to try @NuScorpii 's latest, if you did not already do so. It is dialed in really nice. I doubt you would need to adjust much, if anything.
    Otherwise, if you like how this one feels, then great or you can dial it in too. They prob. can be made to feel very similar with some fine tuning. I did not look in the other file, but I would assume that the biggest easily adjustable differences are in regards to bumps/large bumps lfb settings as well as the blending between Reiza & custom rack calculations. Fwiw.



    Momentum was too sharp on some wheels, while I had originally thought it to be a good thing, it is clear from request that it was too much.


    * Relaxed the center.

    * Added variable to adjust center relaxation "momentum_center_relax".

    * Turned down momentum to 1.5.


    "momentum_center_relax" can be adjusted higher for more relaxed & lower for less.
    Set default at 1.8 providing a middle-road.


    Attached custom ffb file: "Silver Raw v2.1 - Momentum Rack 2.0":
     

    Attached Files:

    Last edited: Jun 22, 2020
    • Like Like x 3
  2. Chip

    Chip Active Member AMS2 Club Member

    Joined:
    May 22, 2020
    Messages:
    173
    Likes Received:
    53
    Thanks I will give it a shot. Does anyone have a different default car/track combo they've been using to test the file that I could try as well? Thanks again.
     
  3. Gaspedal

    Gaspedal New Member AMS2 Club Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2020
    Messages:
    27
    Likes Received:
    11
    I find your previous version 2.1a much better as latest versions until 2.4. More realistic FFB effects and the handling is much better. Because this, I'll hold on V2.1a until next versions. :)
     
    Last edited: Jun 23, 2020
  4. AndreiC

    AndreiC Active Member AMS2 Club Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2019
    Messages:
    744
    Likes Received:
    186
    Same here on my T300rs. Thx alot for your work :)!
    Edit: Actually I prefer the 2.3 version
     
    Last edited: Jun 25, 2020
  5. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2020
    Messages:
    594
    Likes Received:
    821
    +1
    Until today on AMS2 I have wanted to refuse to use the modified ffb files in order not to fall back into the nightmare of PC2 (where I ran more to find the balance of the steering wheel, than to have fun races) .... but I too I have to change my mind ... out of curiosity I copied the last file of NuScorpii v. 2.4, modified in it the minimum force to 0.6 (as recommended for my G920), set in gane "custon profile" and left the default values equal to 100-50-50 ... and wow I am really amazed by the feeling of my cheap wheel!!!!

    Congratulations, a really good job ... I will wait for the 1.0 version of the game to check how much improvement Reiza can bring to its default setting ... but I think it is difficult to do better ... I hope they take a lot of ideas from your excellent job .... you amazed me ;)

    Is there anyone of you who has my own steering wheel (or even the G29) and who can give me some advice on what to change to still have an improvement in sensations?
    The rules are the same as the default file ???
    If I want a slightly fuller center I only raise LFB???
    If I wanted it a little less soft it is more scrape what should I increase ???
     
    Last edited: Jun 25, 2020
    • Like Like x 1
  6. Jefka

    Jefka Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2019
    Messages:
    30
    Likes Received:
    6
    I'm pretty sure I've seen it before somewhere in this thread but can't find it anymore. Using @NuScorpii 's latest Heavy Messing (not tried the other ones with 0.9.7.) I'm getting a wild moving wheel even standing still, it just pulls left en right pretty violently. That's with a fanatec CSW v2.5, pretty much every gain/lfb/fx setting. Any idea what it might be? As always I deleted the ams2 folder with the latest release.
     
  7. F.Santos

    F.Santos Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2020
    Messages:
    405
    Likes Received:
    311
    Check your fanatec drivers if they are installed up to the most recent firmware. LFB needs to be added even if to 1 otherwise it will generate some erratic behaviour from the wheel.
    I also had an issue when I had 2 different files for AMS2 and AMS2 beta, so one of them did not have/could not detect the custom file, so in my case no custom file but choosing custom file would create a big wheel problem.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  8. Jefka

    Jefka Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2019
    Messages:
    30
    Likes Received:
    6
    Ah yeah ofcourse. I did a windows refresh recently and might not have updated drivers afterwards. Will check after the acc 12 hours race tomorrow. Rather not mess with drivers beforehand :) Thanks for the suggestion!
     
  9. Dean Ogurek

    Dean Ogurek "Love the Simulation You're Dreaming In." AMS2 Club Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2016
    Messages:
    1,644
    Likes Received:
    739
    I had a similar experience last night, I thought it may be due to using the Madness FFB Tool improperly(?). I replaced the "Custom ffb" file with a fresh copy of the original (Heavy Messing 2.4) and the issues were gone.
     
  10. Micropitt

    Micropitt Mediocre driver doing mediocre laps AMS2 Club Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2020
    Messages:
    728
    Likes Received:
    544
    I wonder if somebody can help me out here to understand which of the posted files would go with a Thrustmaster TX. I tried to figure it out by looking through the posts but miserably failed. Currently I have the settings at 80, 50, 50, 40 So, pretty much at default except I lowered the gain from 100 to 80. Thanks in advance.
     
  11. psone

    psone Guest

    Joined:
    May 31, 2020
    Messages:
    139
    Likes Received:
    65
    @Chip I think I'm experiencing the same thing as you are. Not quite sure how to describe it. It's really apparent on cornering with the AJR. If I watch a replay right after a corner the chassis pitching forward and back seems tomto exactly the feeling coming through the wheel. It's really distracting. I'dl to understand what parameter might allow me dial that sensation down. So far I haven't been able to pinpoint. Other then that I'm blown away by the improvements.

    Using @NuScorpii HM v2.4 + CSL elite
     
  12. Aza340

    Aza340 Active Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2020
    Messages:
    364
    Likes Received:
    141
    Try this one , best I have found for my G920 . Should suit your thrustmaster as they are fairly similar in output .
    Can't remember off hand if I tweaked anything or not but maybe just increase min force a fraction to tighten up the centre .
     

    Attached Files:

    • Like Like x 1
  13. NuScorpii

    NuScorpii Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2020
    Messages:
    433
    Likes Received:
    472
    You could try reducing the load_scale variable. The load_scale amplifies the ffb depending on the load on the front wheels so if it is during these pitching forwards / backwards events that you mainly find the issue then that is likely to be it. Reducing macro_details may also help.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  14. NuScorpii

    NuScorpii Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2020
    Messages:
    433
    Likes Received:
    472
    If you get the issue again I would be interested in seeing a copy of the ffb file in case there are any obvious differences.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Useful Useful x 1
  15. Micropitt

    Micropitt Mediocre driver doing mediocre laps AMS2 Club Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2020
    Messages:
    728
    Likes Received:
    544
    Thank you. I'll give it a try
     
  16. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2020
    Messages:
    594
    Likes Received:
    821
    it's true ... not at all detracting from the NuScorpii file which is much much much better than the default 0.9.7.0 ... I tried your "Silver Santos v1.0 - F.Santos-Karsten" file used for the g920 and I must say that it is more harmonious and more corresponding to what the car, the shock absorbers and the tires do on the screen ... it is more connected to the visual sensations and the behavior is more predictable ... the reactions to driving and the counter-steering is more natural. .. thanks Aza340
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  17. Micropitt

    Micropitt Mediocre driver doing mediocre laps AMS2 Club Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2020
    Messages:
    728
    Likes Received:
    544
    Really like the FFB. It's a keeper :D
     
    • Like Like x 2
  18. Aza340

    Aza340 Active Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2020
    Messages:
    364
    Likes Received:
    141
     
    • Like Like x 1
  19. Aza340

    Aza340 Active Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2020
    Messages:
    364
    Likes Received:
    141
     
  20. Aza340

    Aza340 Active Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2020
    Messages:
    364
    Likes Received:
    141
    Thank F.Santos-Karsten , so lucky to have brilliant people like them in the community . Agree with your comments , miles ahead of anything else I've tried . I think partly because it's less complicated and not trying to reproduce forces that the g920 / G29 or t150 / t300 aren't capable of .
    Definitely a keeper for me as long as it's still going to be compatible with 1.0 when that finally arrives !
     

Share This Page