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Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. YuriRR

    YuriRR New Member

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    @Kuku Maddog I just tried your file for the first time and I absolutely love how I can feel the tire grip change under braking and steering. However I have a strange issue that probably needs more testing on my end but I thought i'd share it in case it rings a bell for you or someone else reading this.
    I drove the Group C Chevy and the Porsche GT1 on Bathurst and noticed that in test day mode from lap 2 onwards I get a knocking sound and feel from my Simagic Alpha Mini. And it is too bad to continue driving like that, turning down FX to 20 or so removes the problem but then I miss the road texture feeling, curbs, grass etc. I like that relatively strong I suppose. However when I run a time trial this problem does not seem to occur even with a higher FX. I have not tried other cars yet so not sure if it is car related. Any thoughts as to where to look or what else to test? I will spend some time on my rig tonight. If I can get your tune working in my setup I would be very happy as this feels just perfect for me without the knocking ;-)
     
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  2. RDEstevao

    RDEstevao New Member

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    Isn't that due to flatspots on your tyres?
    Try to set the flatspot to zero to check if that is your "problem"!
    Flatspots_scale is at 0.7, set it to 0 to try it out.
     
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  3. Xzanman

    Xzanman Well-Known Member

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    Could it be that you flat spotted the tires? Time trial tends to give more grip so maybe your not braking so hard, just a thought.

    @Kuku Maddog I tried the Porsche 911 rsr 74 at Bannochbrae and I experienced the best most detailed FFB that I have ever felt in AMS2, very close to Rfactor 2s best feeling cars. I didnt get round to testing anything else because I was having so much fun.
     
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  4. Xzanman

    Xzanman Well-Known Member

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    Do you use any low force boost? If so you could try lowering it. This may reduce, remove the oscillations.
     
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  5. dMASS

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    Yeah I have it at 10, haven't touched that in awhile so could be it. Thanks I'll test later tonight
     
  6. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    I’m still tinkering with micro adjustments when I can . Centre is better with slight shift in velocity scale.

    I can’t really reproduce oscillating with hands off at all at my end , at the very worst it can be like a slight unbalanced wheel IRL feeling .

    maybe it’s just a Fanatec thing , almost all complaints of Oscillating with Ams2 seem to be with them . but then I get it with defaults also .
     
  7. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Yea it will be flat spots , I think that last file used an older template and was a bit high , I run it around 0.4 currently.
    You still feel it , but can just about survive a few laps with it . But ultimately you pay a price for flat spotting .
     
  8. YuriRR

    YuriRR New Member

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    Brilliant idea! Will test it tonight and report back!
     
  9. John Manetti

    John Manetti Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Hi, I did a quick test with your FFB on CS2.5 with some vehicles, GT3, GTE and Formula Reiza.
    Accomplishments for your work the FFB is very consistent, road details and curbs and lateral force weight are felt very well.
    But I noticed that I can't feel the loss of grip on the rear, I don't have any information for that.
    But otherwise everything is excellent.
     
  10. YuriRR

    YuriRR New Member

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    Yes it were the flatspots! Amazing really, never felt that before. 1.5 with this custom ffb is fantastic, I am enjoying AMS2 very much right now! Thanks!
     
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  11. YuriRR

    YuriRR New Member

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    Ps I do get that shaking of the wheel when I let go of the wheel while driving. Its not a big problem but if I could get that tuned down or out it would be nice!

    Have the Alpha Mini btw.
     
  12. Reodor Phelgen

    Reodor Phelgen Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Hey! Search for flatspots_scale in your FFB-file and change it to from 0.7 to 0.4 (as suggested by Kuku Maddog.) Or set it to 0.0 if you don't want to feel it at all.

    EDIT: I guess it wasn't really what you were asking about...sorry :)
     
  13. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    That’s strange ,
    I can take both hands off the wheel and drive down straights no problem.

    What are your settings in game and software .
    are you on the just released Simpro 2 software ?
    I haven’t tried it yet . i tend to treat the software updates with caution until they have been out longer.
     
  14. torsteinvh

    torsteinvh Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    No oscillations on my DD1 either...
    In game settings:
    Gain: 55
    LFB: 0
    FX: 17
    Damper: 0

    Fanalab (Maurice' profiles):
    upload_2023-8-16_0-16-41.png

    @Kuku Maddog, love the file, BTW :)
     
  15. MickT

    MickT Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    The rim can make a difference here. My converted TM R383 doesn't oscillate at all, whereas my GT1 with a really light simcore 295mm carbon fibre rim does.
     
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    You are running LFB at 0 I suspect those having oscillation problems have the LFB too high.
     
  17. Cangrejo

    Cangrejo Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I am a user of a ts pc steering wheel. I have the same feeling that the center is dead and that forces me to compensate by raising the low forces. I'm very happy with the evolution of the game since version 1.5, but that central ffb area dead takes away from the realism. Even so, I am convinced that Reiza is trying to solve it.
     
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    torsteinvh Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I did a quick test now, and by turning LFB up I got oscillations as well. But low values (5-10) was fine.
     
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  19. kivipallur1

    kivipallur1 Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Have you tried using Danielkart files? I tried his latest v70 Plus 5-8Nm custom with TS-PC yesterday and I have to say thank you, I'm really happy with it. His files have always had this front end/low force/centre bite.
    Only thing I did is that I lowered under_steer_scale and exaggerate_front_load_feel values in the file a bit, because otherwise the wheel loaded up too fast (for my subjective ffb taste) and started clipping early, even in slow corners.
     
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  20. YuriRR

    YuriRR New Member

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    I am using the exact settings (double checked it) you stated in your last file. But I am indeed using simpro 2.0. It is not that easy to revert back as I would need to go back to older firmare as well, I'll deal with the shaking and hope an update of simpro 2.0 will fix that.
     
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