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Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Hey rixx! Of course, a minimal file can also work well. But I am convinced that such a complex file offers many more possibilities and combinations. The FFB physics is from Karsten and offers enormous potential and opportunities. But reconciling and sorting these physics is very difficult and requires many hours of testing and a great deal of feeling. That's why I take my hat off to every modder, everyone who has tried it before knows how difficult it is. This incredible variety of cars makes it even more difficult and always requires certain compromises. I really appreciate that Ams2 offers this possibility to write your own files. Ams2 is now at a very good level with the physics that there will also be fewer interventions in the FFB. Many people also write that Customs is a "rabbit hole", but they forget that it's the same with the defaults. With almost every update of Reiza there are also changes in the physics or in the FFB. If a simulation is not completed, there will always be changes in the FFB, whether defaults or customs. I'm personally at a point where I'm very happy and there isn't much to change other than the new rally cars and tracks. I will post these to you soon, there will only be one rally custom that will work well for all bases. And finally I would like to tell you that it doesn't matter what you take, custom or defaults, the main thing is that you have fun with it and you like it:)
     
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  2. ricxx

    ricxx Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Your files are great, I haven't used anything else, really. I absolutely didn't want to talk them down or something. I really appreciate your hard work. I can imagine it's very time consuming.
    The latest files a bit too heavy for my personal taste, so I'll just lower gain a bit.

    I agree, the most important thing is that people have fun. The best file and the best FFB are those you like most.
     
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  3. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Hi guys!

    Here I am posting you my new Custom Rally V70 Plus file.It is also based on the very good V70 Plus with some adjusted values for these cars.There is only this rally file that is suitable for all bases and it will also be easier for you.

    I am still of the opinion that the Customs need their own file, since it is not already integrated as with the Defaults.The powers are too different to combine with the normal custom.I have noticed that these different forces and this different FFB feedback can be compensated very well with the in-game values with gain and FX.The base values can be kept like your other cars (according to your personal taste).

    I wrote the in-game values for the rally cars at the beginning of the file.I know that not everyone likes these cars, but I am enthusiastic about them.The only thing I don't like very much is the kart-cross cars, but I think Reiza will improve something in physics or FFB.

    I wish you a lot of fun with these cars
     

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  4. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    I think I will treat this current public build as an outlier .
    A lot of the focus of tuning was based around GT3s , mainly because thats what everybody seemed to be focusing on and I was in middle of preparation for a special race with them . .
    You will remember me saying I felt the tyres had a lot more flex feeling. .

    well that was actually true . And is looks likely to be reconciled going forward.
    Testing in beta suggests going back to pre 1.5 files is ok .
    But might massage it a little , but can’t be certain until it comes through the main build .
     
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  5. NBrembo

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    @Danielkart thanks a lot for the V70 plus file. gr8 work.

    for all G27 users some edits for our old wheels.
     

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  6. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Yes, unfortunately I cannot simulate tighteen_ range and tighteen_falloff on my bases. Discuss each other what works best for your Logitech it can be good for weak bases for the middle. Well done NBrembo
     
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  7. Xzanman

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    Trying the pre 1.5 file back to back with your newest file there does seem to be a more precise feel of the tires in the newest file especially at speed on the more swooping corners. On the slower corners on the older file the tires have a kind of under inflated feel compared to the newer file. So i do think the newer file is better overall and is the one I will be using at least until you decide to tweak things further. I have found upping my gain by 5 gives a better centre feel, although that makes all the other forces feel a little strong and increases the chances of clipping.

    For anyone that drives mainly in Rfactor 2 I highly recommend your file because it gives the most similar feel.
     
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  8. Alegunner68

    Alegunner68 Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I've been fine tuning it with fei at 80, I originally tuned it at 90 but that was a bit harsh on road texture and kerbs, I couldn't balance it out so I tweaked it at 80. I'll update when I'm happy with it.
     
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  9. Jarousssss

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    Ahoj.jaké nastavení pro fanatec csl dd 8nm ve hře.thanks
     
  10. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Test File For K-Tune users .
    Not widely tested, Very short on time at the moment.
    but enjoyed Pcup race with it :)
     

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  11. Xzanman

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    I will give it a go
     
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    I had a few hours with it, tried a variety of cars all of them felt really nice, the GT3s with the recent updates from Reiza felt especially good, the DTMs felt better than before with improved centre feel. Overall a nice improvement to the file seemed to be getting a little more feel from the front tires, and the tires felt somehow firmer but that maybe down to Reizas changes, although I did seem to feel it in cars unchanged by them i the latest update. I will try to test some of the slower cars tomorrow.
     
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  13. RimasLeon

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    I can't test at the moment. But as I understand it, if the center has improved with GT3, then, as before, it seems to me that this is due to the lack of rigidity from the tire frame. I will definitely test the after the holidays and tell you how it looks. If the center is more rigid and accurate, it will be hands down.
     
  14. dMASS

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    @Kuku Maddog tested the new custom with GT3/GT1/P1/P2 so far feels so well balanced, centre feels more present than before. Not sure if you changed a lot or if the revision to ffb put through on the last patch has made everything more consistent.

    The only thing I would change if it's possible are the oscillations when letting go of the wheel, it doesn't matter that much since in practice I would never do that and can't sense any oscillation with the wheel in hand. I think this has been present in your custom since I started using it though, so not something that came in with the recent changes you've made
     
  15. YuriRR

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    @Kuku Maddog I just tried your file for the first time and I absolutely love how I can feel the tire grip change under braking and steering. However I have a strange issue that probably needs more testing on my end but I thought i'd share it in case it rings a bell for you or someone else reading this.
    I drove the Group C Chevy and the Porsche GT1 on Bathurst and noticed that in test day mode from lap 2 onwards I get a knocking sound and feel from my Simagic Alpha Mini. And it is too bad to continue driving like that, turning down FX to 20 or so removes the problem but then I miss the road texture feeling, curbs, grass etc. I like that relatively strong I suppose. However when I run a time trial this problem does not seem to occur even with a higher FX. I have not tried other cars yet so not sure if it is car related. Any thoughts as to where to look or what else to test? I will spend some time on my rig tonight. If I can get your tune working in my setup I would be very happy as this feels just perfect for me without the knocking ;-)
     
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  16. RDEstevao

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    Isn't that due to flatspots on your tyres?
    Try to set the flatspot to zero to check if that is your "problem"!
    Flatspots_scale is at 0.7, set it to 0 to try it out.
     
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  17. Xzanman

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    Could it be that you flat spotted the tires? Time trial tends to give more grip so maybe your not braking so hard, just a thought.

    @Kuku Maddog I tried the Porsche 911 rsr 74 at Bannochbrae and I experienced the best most detailed FFB that I have ever felt in AMS2, very close to Rfactor 2s best feeling cars. I didnt get round to testing anything else because I was having so much fun.
     
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    Do you use any low force boost? If so you could try lowering it. This may reduce, remove the oscillations.
     
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  19. dMASS

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    Yeah I have it at 10, haven't touched that in awhile so could be it. Thanks I'll test later tonight
     
  20. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    I’m still tinkering with micro adjustments when I can . Centre is better with slight shift in velocity scale.

    I can’t really reproduce oscillating with hands off at all at my end , at the very worst it can be like a slight unbalanced wheel IRL feeling .

    maybe it’s just a Fanatec thing , almost all complaints of Oscillating with Ams2 seem to be with them . but then I get it with defaults also .
     

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