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Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. Harvey Mushman

    Harvey Mushman New Member

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    Danielkart...you are so very lucky to live in Switzerland. I've never been there, but in my opinion, it is absolutely the most beautiful country on the planet!!! Also, thanks very much for all your hard work on FFB in AMS2...
     
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  2. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Hey Harvey!
    Thank you for your kind words . I think the best place is always where you were born and have your family and friends. But yes, I am grateful that I live in a democratic country where the people can still accept or reject laws. Of course, there are good things and not so good things here, just like in every country. Greetings
     
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  3. newtonpg

    newtonpg Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    This!
     
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  4. Alegunner68

    Alegunner68 Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I live in the uk and the past few years had me thinking about getting out.
    It's not the same place anymore due to various reasons (inept, useless government doesn't help). Jumping into Ams2 helps immensely..
    I travel abroad most summers on my Guzzi, mostly France but Switzerland is on my bucket list. Roads are so quiet away from the uk.
     
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  5. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Yes, a lot has gone wrong in Britain and still does. It's sad to see how an entire country can get into such trouble because of incompetent governments. It's a blessing that Switzerland is not in the EU and the people have decided that way.
    Yes, buddy, once you come to Switzerland you will be amazed by our mountain roads. But be careful not to go too fast otherwise it will be expensive with us ;)
     
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  6. Alegunner68

    Alegunner68 Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Quick heads up fanatec dd2 799. Blimey
     
  7. Joaquim Pereira

    Joaquim Pereira Well-Known Member

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    Hi, thanks.
    I just use the default one - go neutral on everything, no damping, no friction , no nothing - just max torque to your liking (I still find no reason to go beyond 65% :))
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  8. ATrainedMonkey

    ATrainedMonkey New Member

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    Thanks a lot, I am sure with the R12 65% is already plenty ;)
    Very similar to the settings I use in pithouse actually, only big difference we have is the Max Wheel Speed which I have at just 10%. Will play a bit with it tomorrow since now is quite late here, still trying to find that sweet spot with FFB.
     
  9. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Even at this low price I wouldn't buy a dd1/dd2
     
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  10. Ochilbaz

    Ochilbaz Active Member

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    Good morning all,

    just recently moved house and getting set up again after a good few months not racing.

    quick question…… I have a thrustmaster ts-xw so can anyone recommend a good custom file for me please?

    thanks in advance
     
  11. Des Bain

    Des Bain New Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Why not a DD2... I have one I add
     
  12. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    There are many reasons why I personally wouldn't buy a dd1/dd2 at this time. I also had a dd1 and lots of unpleasant problems with it. Now Fanatec wants to empty its shelves because new generations of bases are coming onto the market. The new FFB software will not be supported by dd1/dd2. These bases are obsolete and have no future. In addition, all the problems with the flex caused by the QR1 quick-release system, which is now being replaced by the QR2, unfortunately at an expensive additional cost. The “Fanalab” software is only available to a limited extent because problems occurred with every update. In addition (my personal opinion) the FFB controls and settings are not logical and incorrect. That's why I would choose a different product, the selection is now very large and very good
     
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  13. newtonpg

    newtonpg Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    There are good customs out there, three of them I have tried with my TM-TX and recommend (don't tried others), the best choice is a personal preference but those 3 are very good:
    Danielkart v400
    Allegunner68 (21 Oct 2023)
    Joaquim Pereira v4
     
  14. Rivanov

    Rivanov New Member

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    Still running V70 I believe. Will definitely check V400 out later tonight!
    I guess you need to change the file after the 1.5.3 update @Danielkart ?
     
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  15. newtonpg

    newtonpg Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    TM-TX here:
    Each @Danielkart version is a step forward, v70 felling is indeed very good but v400 is better.
    I'm on beta 1.5.3.1 and v400 feels superb but things could always be better I know.
     
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  16. ATrainedMonkey

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    I am kinda having an hard time getting the right feeling after coming back to simracing after a year off.

    Before I had a T300 and with AMS2 I achieved a great FFB, I recently bought a Moza R9 and I am struggling to achieve a good sense of grip, tried default+ and V300 from Danielkart and the one from Joaquim Pereira. I would say I struggle to achive 2 things I could with my T300:

    • accurately increases wheel force as downforce increases with speed
    • feel better the cliff of grip
    I struggle to feel the wheel get lighter on lower grip. Any advice?

    Setting in game, GAIN around 50 (tried also lower) LFB 0, FX 10, DAMPING (0 with custom, 30-40 with default ones). It's like the strenght of the wheel is compressed between high/load downforce situation, mostly playing F1 retro/classic/V12.
     
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  17. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Hello!
    I can't tell you whether there will be a change in the files after the update. The V400 files are very mature customs with a very good balance. As already mentioned, the physics update 1.5 from Reiza brought very big changes to my customs. There were enormous possibilities for me and that's why after this update 1.5 there were many custom versions of me. Then came the V300 and finally the V400 which changed everything again. The result was no dampening neither in the game nor in the base, no LFB in the game, no friction in the base and no inertia in the base. And this V400 now allows me to simulate almost any force (base) without much effort and with very few changes. That's why there will also be V500 files that will have an even narrower range. This narrower range means the customs will automatically work better with the forces for the different bases. It remains to be seen whether other changes will be necessary after the Reiza update. Maybe yes, maybe no. Then it could look something like this:

    1. File V500 1-3Nm
    2. File V500 4-5Nm
    3. File V500 6-7Nm
    4. File V500 8-9Nm
    5. File V500 10-11Nm
    6. File V500 12-13Nm
    7. File V500 14-15Nm
    8. File V500 16-18Nm
    9. File V500 Rally 1-20Nm
     
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  18. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Hello!
    I can tell you with certainty that you now have a better FFB in Ams2 than you did a year ago. You switched from the T300 belt base to a dd. This also takes some time to get used to. I don't know the setting options for a Moza base, so you have to deal with it and find out what works best for you.
    If you take my file, 50% gain in the game is not enough because you will lose FFB. FX 10 is also very little. Find your personal sweet spot with lots of testing, whether with defaults or a custom file
     
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  19. Joaquim Pereira

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    Thrutmaster has a great FFB and (I believe) driver's low pass filter give a very rubber feeling, like tyre should have.

    That said, take what @Danielkart already told about time to adapt. It's very important. Switching FFB files, switching to a new game, etc., cannot be asserted without understanding what is been comunicated to you.
    Forget about TM's FFB, will get better! ;)
     
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  20. ATrainedMonkey

    ATrainedMonkey New Member

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    Thanks @Danielkart and @Joaquim Pereira such an helpful community here! :)

    I will try higher gain as suggested, yes I kinda will forget about the T300, as it is also a distant memory as I sold it after breaking my leg about a year ago, would have been nice to still have it just to compare the two.

    What are your suggestion about DAMPING setting in game?

    yes, this is a very accurate description of the feeling I used to get with T300
     
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