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Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. Siggi_Stoppschild

    Siggi_Stoppschild Active Member

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    I use a Moza R9 and I had a heavy oscillation in AMS2 and I could „fix“ it by lowering the first slider of the Base Force Feedback curve from the original 20 to 10 or even a little less.
     
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  2. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    I don't know the capabilities of the Moza R9. But you should always adjust the FFB curves linearly to avoid oscillations
     
  3. Siggi_Stoppschild

    Siggi_Stoppschild Active Member

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    With the linear curve I had the heavy oscillation, but only in AMS2. So I lowered it and it went away.
     
  4. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    I drive a Moza R21 and have 0 wheel sway. I don't know your in-game settings, maybe that's why? But I also know that the 1Generation Moza bases still had problems with the ffb. As I said, I have the V2, i.e. the 2nd generation. And it is fantastic with no problems at all with vibrations together with the V800 Custom File
     
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  5. Siggi_Stoppschild

    Siggi_Stoppschild Active Member

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    I thought you drive a Simucube?
    I have a Gen1 Moza R9, maybe thats the problem. But I haven‘t tried the V800 file with the neutral FFB curve, I will do that the next time I drive.
     
  6. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I drive both bases. Yes, it could be because of the 1 GEN it would be interesting to know. That would be a shame for everyone who drives the 1st generation Moza:(
     
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  7. Siggi_Stoppschild

    Siggi_Stoppschild Active Member

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    I will test it on Saturday and I will post my results here!
     
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  8. Richard appleyard

    Richard appleyard AKA Neworder

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    @Danielkart the v800 file works very good with a R9 also using your in game settings and pithouse suggestions thanks great file
     
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  9. Alegunner68

    Alegunner68 Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Thanks so much for doing this, and of course the real names which adds SO much more to the sim. It means I can dig out my old files without rummaging through the thread.
     
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  10. Siggi_Stoppschild

    Siggi_Stoppschild Active Member

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    Is it a Gen1 or 2 R9 Base? Which wheels are you using? Can you maybe post your Pithouse and ingame settings? Just to make sure I‘m not looking at the wrong values (because I tend to act stupid sometimes). Thanks!
     
  11. Cluelessuser

    Cluelessuser New Member

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    I'd love to try out your R9-specific settings. Unless you are using the R16 or R21 settings from @Danielkart on the R9?
     
  12. Richard appleyard

    Richard appleyard AKA Neworder

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    the r16 suggestions but my wheel rotations 360
     
  13. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    By reducing the "Steering Range" or with Moza with "Maximum Steering Angle" to 360 degrees, you will of course experience extreme swinging of the wheel. Also, the steering input will no longer be in sync with what you will see (if you switch the steering wheel to visible).It will also increase strength enormously. But here too, if you like it better then change it to your preferences :)
    I just want to point this out because maybe that's also the problem with "Siggi Stoppschild" with the pendulums on the wheel
     
  14. Richard appleyard

    Richard appleyard AKA Neworder

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    Just feels better for me at 360 talking to lot my SIM mates there all running less than 900
     
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  15. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Of course, everyone should adjust it so that it suits their own preferences. Personally, I only drive in rally simulations with less steering angle to require less steering input and make it more responsive. But as I said, it has to suit everyone, I'm just pointing out what will change. It doesn't mean that my settings are perfect, that doesn't exist anyway. These are merely recommendations from me and tailored to the custom file. From here you can then tune according to your personal preference;)
     
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    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    The Custom File V800 on page 396 has been expanded with the bases Moza R12 V2 and Moza R9 V2.
    The recommended in-game and base settings can be found in the V800 file
     
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  17. Siggi_Stoppschild

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    Hello all, I'm sure you are already waiting for my testing results! ;)

    So what I use: A Moza R9 Gen1 Wheelbase and a Moza GS Wheel.
    I used the latest V800 custom FFB file from Danielkart and I used his suggested Moza Pithouse settings and his suggested ingame FFB settings.
    When I drive in AMS2 and take the hands off the wheel, I get a pretty rough oscillation effect.
    I can avoid this if I change the FFB curve within Moza Pithouse slightly:

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    I think this is a Gen1 issue of the wheelbase.
    All in all, driving in AMS2 with this custom FFB feels really, really great and I had a lot of fun today.
    The only thing else I adjust is the car specific FFB to my liking, usually something between 70-75%.
     
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  18. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Yes maybe it's a problem with Moza the 1Gen? I can't judge it because I have the 2Gen and I don't have these problems with the wheel swinging. My reference is Simucube2 Pro and I have adapted the Moza R21 to this base as best as possible with the settings. I would say that a Moza R21 is about 80-90% close to my reference base. So a great base with small limitations
     
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    Howdy folks,

    So for quite some time, I've been using the default+ ffb configuration from AMS2. I've recently tried the V800 custom ffb on my gen 1 R16 base since its likely more accurate with all the work Daniel has put in. What I'm missing from default+ ffb while using the v800 version is:
    1. Feeling the wheel get lighter/looser when I lose traction
    2. Feeling the wheel tighten while trail-braking which helps me gauge how close I am to losing grip

    I tried searching through this thread, and I saw comments about number 1, but it was quite a few years ago. I've also played around with several values in the config like `front_grip_loss_feel` and `rear_grip_loss_feel` but I haven't been able to get the feeling that I want.

    Has anyone already worked though this before that could share some pointers? I'd gladly figure out the rest.
     
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  20. GFoyle

    GFoyle Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    First of all, not sure why would you want to take hands of your wheel while driving ;) I honestly don't think oscillations that only happen in that scenario is a big issue or anything to worry about. If you get oscalliations while having hands on the wheel and actualy having to use force to keep it still, then it's another matter.

    I had oscillation issues earlier (Moza R21 v1), but it was like over 1,5 years ago. I also had some other problems, that were solved/improved by doing the following:

    a) did proper wheel calibiration within the game
    b) in moza pithouse, defining maximum limit angle as 900 and maximum steering angle as higher (I have 1220, which was just some random number clearly above the maximum limit angle)

    Maybe worth a try to see if it improves things for you.
     
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