Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

That sounds weird. I added the algorithm in the file a long time ago, and in many earlier files used it at 0.15 or 0.2 etc.
This was so all bases would benefit from the same as we do on simucube 2.
But it is a somewhat weird filter and that's why I set it to 0 to disable it.
It does exactly remove the "static" part of the force from the signal, so it does and should indeed weaken the ffb significantly at higher values. It does so too when you use simucube 2 version.
There is an added benefit to using it in the file instead of in simucube 2 software, as I added it to only affect the rack force, whereas simucube 2 filter will be added after all forces are accumulated, so any long lasting effect would also be affected.

If it acts weird, maybe I made some error, but just didn't care, since I had it at 0 anyways, and considered simply removing the code for it anyways

Best

-Karsten

 

Yes, your idea was and is perfect, but unfortunately there are problems with it.I know that I never liked this filter in the file, even when I still had a dd1.There, too, I had anomalies in the steering axis and I always had the value very low back then.But it's not a problem, I can set it to 0 and everything is fine. Thanks for the info

 

That's all fine if you have that sort of filter in your software. I have a Simagic Alpha, and the SimPro software has nothing like it. What can I change in your file to reduce the effect of heavy steering on turning? Tyre Resistance maybe?

 

You sure this is right? This line already exists on line 253 below?

 

Line 253 is this in mine;
(delta_load_wt (* (+ 0.5 load_factor) (+ (* 0.5 susp_delta_HF) susp_delta_LF) adhesion_front_scaled))

 

Yes, I know that your Simagic doesn't have it.But that doesn't mean that it's bad.My Moza R21 V2 doesn't have it either and yet I have a fantastic FFB with this base. There are many ways to weaken it in the file but there will always be consequences.Yes, you can change the tire resistance but there will be consequences.Yes, you can add a little power_steering_angle but there will be consequences.And it goes on and on. For me it's always a combination of different changes.I change something and notice that it changes the middle or the center feeling or the grip or the power and and and...... Finding this balance so that everything fits together again is not always easy and everyone experiences it differently of course. Try to adapt it to your needs as best as possible and make sure that you feel good about it

 

yeah, not sure why line no is different, but I already have that line there, does it need to be there twice?

 

Not in mine. Just line 252. Maybe download a fresh copy and look at it again. What program do you use to edit .txt files? I use Notepad++

 

Did that, and line 252 is the same as the new code
(susp_delta_LF (* (+ 1.2 (/ lonG_accel 2)) (abs (power susp_delta_LF 2.4)) sign_susp_delta_LF))

 

You should at least try the SFR with your Simagic Alpha, and see for yourself how it feels. After I read the above comments, I drove with SFR, and then without SFR, and I went back to using SFR along with the SFR that is also added in by my VRS base config.
I found that without the SFR in the AMS2 cFFB file, it was just plain old strength, and no slip effects at all. I've grown accustomed to the feeling of getting on the limits, then slightly going over, and then returning back to normal grip.
I also noticed that there was a greater chance of tank slap if a wild turning sequence got out of control without using the cFFB SFR in the file.
I guess one could get used to either using it or not, but IMO it's more fun with some form of SFR applied, and I didn't have any steering weirdness when using SFR.
Experimentation is the key.

 

I did try using it in Daniel's file, but only went from 0 to 0.04. Didn't notice much difference. Maybe I'll try some higher values to see if I can feel what else it might change.

 

You will notice at higher values 0.7 or 0.8 that it causes anomalies. Of course, at 0.04 it will almost not be noticeable but then it won't have the desired effect. I notice the anomaly starting around 0.1 so I prefer to leave it at 0. In my opinion, the internal processing of the base can simply do this better than the file can (whether custom file or defaults) or sometimes with other simulations. But as Peter Stefanie also said, it all depends on the user and if you have a better feeling with higher values then that's completely okay and just test it

 

Hey Daniel,

Can you describe the anomaly that you see in a little more detail?

 

Yes, of course Karsten, but I'm not on the rig today to give you exact data. Every file behaves differently. What I can tell you for sure is that the higher the value, the greater the FFB loss. Of course you have to compensate for that. This is also the case with my custom, but less pronounced. Both files also have the anomalies in the steering axis, but mine is even more pronounced. But I'll tell you more about that once I've tested both again. Go to a concert today and enjoy music

 

May the swift be with you^^

 

Hey buddy, may the clutch be with you

 

Hi, I have a SC2 Sport base,who can tell me I used a lot of custom settings from Daniel v100,v200,v800... on turns at any degree if you press the brake, the steering wheel turns strongly to the center very unpleasant in other simulators I did not notice this effect,in the only version of v70 this effect is weakly expressed, I use it for a long time.Which line should be edited in ffb custom settings to reduce this effect?

 

Have you tried any of his latest files? All Custom FFB Files available here;
Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

 

This counterpressure when braking is deliberately a little exaggerated.It is also reproduced very differently by the cars themselves.But you can change it very easily by reducing (brake_feel). Set this value according to your ideas, for example from 1.0 to 2.0.

 

Hey Karsten!
The concert was great and I enjoyed it with my wife Now I had the time to test the static force regulation again with the Formula USA 2023 at Brands Hatch with standard setups.The files react very differently to the changes and I think every other file would react differently.I also exaggerated it with the increase (0.8) but this will also show up in a weakened form at low values.
Both files lose FFB, with your file it is almost everything.Both files lose self-centering.Both files become more unstable when driving and create a floating feeling.My file creates a strange rubber band effect and the forces change very irregularly. All in all, it is not an option for me personally because it really makes the internal processing of the Simucube2 perfect.And of course everyone can set it up as it suits them best
best regards