Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

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  1. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    FX makes big differences and is the most important control for the file and also very dependent on the different cars. I know people who even reduce FX below 10. For example, if you have Motion or other immersion hardware, too much FX can be distracting or overpowering. Of course it's always personal taste, find your personal sweet spot. Your R12 is a good base and will give you pleasure for a long time, but in my opinion there are technical deficits with Moza's R5 and R9 and I would tend to use other bases. But here too it is always a matter of taste and many people are happy with it:)
     
  2. Marc Collins

    Marc Collins Internal Tester AMS2 Club Member

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    One of the most obvious (and sad) deficits with all MOZA wheels is their lack of support for auto-adjustment of steering ratio. All serious sims support this function and manufacturers like Fanatec have always incorporated it into their firmware. Even a manufacturer like Cammus can do it...so come on, MOZA, include this critical function that can play havoc with a user's FFB when there are such a wide range of vehicles (from karts to an F-Truck) with hugely varying steering ratios.
     
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  3. R110DES

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    I had a R5 but I didn't like it so I got the R12 and I really like it I'm only now getting to grips with some of the settings to be honest although I would love a simucube base it would be completely wasted on me I don't get enough time to use my current equipment i only bought a cockpit pit end of last year I was using wheel stands before which were terrible.
     
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  4. Danielkart

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    The price-performance ratio is certainly very good with your R12 and Moza is constantly working on improvements and expansions. Of course it's not a Simucube but it's in a different league in terms of price. Moza is also well on its way with their ever-increasing variety of hardware and compatibility. You will definitely enjoy it for a long time (I also have with my R21) and if you have little time there is no reason to rely on expensive hardware;)
     
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    My next purchases will probably be the new dash and maybe the KS wheel

    To be honest 12nm is way more than enough for me I definitely don't need a gym membership I was tempted with the R16 at the time but I decided on the R12 as I bought it when it literally was released other than getting my head around settings and not trying to break my thumbs I have had a lot of fun with it the software is also very good and they have definitely done a lot of updates recently to improve both software and firmware of the devices I still hit trees through.
     
  6. Danielkart

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    That's the way it is . 12Nm is completely sufficient. Depending on the car, I drive between 9-11Nm. If you're not a fan of kart simulations, you don't have to worry that 12Nm isn't enough. Even a base with much less Nm can be a lot of fun, which I can say from my own experience. Don't worry about it, a lot of it is just marketing from the manufacturers
     
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    Right so I have reduced the fx to 10 it's way better but kerbs still rattle the rig but not as much i might reduce kerbs_surface_scale to 4 do you think that would make it better.
     
  8. Danielkart

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    Yes, just test it. Maybe 4 or maybe even fewer depending on your personal taste
     
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    So i have tweaked with the settings it dose not seem to make a difference what am I doing wrong.
     
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    Yes, it seems that you are doing something wrong. I will send you a PM today, maybe we can find the error together;)
     
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    Apologies if it may be somewhere in this thread. I enjoy the Default+ but need to make a custom version as my particular wheel is subject to clipping from road bumps. Is there a custom FFB file that lists all the variables but is set for Default+ values? There are a couple of particular values I need to dial down but would like to keep the Default+ feel. The default Custom FFB file (the one that comes with the game) doesn’t include those variables.
     
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    GFoyle Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I find Pereira's FullFFB file to be closest to Default+ in feeling from all the files I have tried (which is quite many), I would recommend trying it and adjusting that to your liking. I can switch between Default+ and that file very easily without long adjustment time needed.
     
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  13. Marc Collins

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    By the way, @Bernd18995, the information about the lack of auto-rotation support comes from MOZA itself. So, please explain what your disagreement is about.
     
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    I dont really agree on the sentiment of having to explain myself for disagreeing but alas.
    Me and my brother are using moza gear since like two years by now and either it's a non issue or we are just not sensitive to it.
     
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    I didn't know that about Moza. I'm pretty sure i would not like that. Using VR so i am always in driver view and need to have the steering wheel animation match my physical wheel turning is a must have. Sure, you can still do it manually but that will be a pain versus a set and forget auto calibration
     
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  16. Marc Collins

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    I really like many aspects of the MOZA hardware, but they confirmed this with me directly. I told them I would not consider buying their product until they "corrected" this important oversight. It must be physically possible to do it, they have just chosen not to.

    The other major problem was with all the unwanted oscillation issues, but I believe that has been resolved with recent firmware updates.
     
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  17. Inkta

    Inkta Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Erm, Marc I don't fully know where are you getting this info but as a Moza user I can confirm Moza has autoadjustment on basically every modern racing sim, with the exception of the original AMS. In sims like Raceroom and Rennsport it basically takes over the Moza software and adjusts the steering ratio in there, but in sims like ams2, rf2, acc and iracing if you set the wheel up to 900 degrees it automatically adjusts it to whatever the car has..
     
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  18. Marc Collins

    Marc Collins Internal Tester AMS2 Club Member

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    OK, I guess their own customer support people don't know how their wheels work. This is what MOZA sent me via their official:

    Currently, only Le Mans Ultimate (LMU) supports automatic steering rotation adjustment with MOZA wheelbases. This is achieved through a two-way integration, where the game accesses our steering angle API to dynamically adjust the rotation based on the in-game vehicle.

    For other titles like iRacing, AMS 2, and rFactor 2, you may need to manually adjust the steering angle in MOZA Pit House or within the game settings. We are always working on improving compatibility and appreciate your feedback.
    Perhaps you or @Stepy could reach out and educate them about their own products. The easiest way to clarify this would be to have a rotation setting in the drivers/Pit House called "Automatic" or some such, as is the case with other manufacturers.
     
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  19. Inkta

    Inkta Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I don't know who works at costumer support but thats a weird response, I've always set the steering wheel rotation to 900deg and let the software do the rest, and I've owned Moza since 2022..
     
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  20. Stepy

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    Yep leave it at 900° and away you go no need to change anything for any game.
     
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