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Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. Micropitt

    Micropitt Mediocre driver doing mediocre laps AMS2 Club Member

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    Same here. Love the "smooth" version.
     
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  2. F.Santos

    F.Santos Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Exactly the same here, I love it but its too difficult to drive in its purest version(latest one), too realistic for me.
    With the f1 I'm not clipping but I am wrestling hard, on the technical side I'll let @Karsten Hvidberg help because I'm not too sure myself, I'm really just trying to change the functions and seeing what happens.
     
  3. Shadak

    Shadak Active Member

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    I made small changes to the latest file (a little bit of self centering) but left general feeling the same. It was mostly tested on DD wheels, sadly due to lack of hw variety.

    One major point when using these custom files is I feel the best way to enjoy is changing gain based on a car type. F1 cars I have to lower to about 20, normal road cars like GT4 about 10 more, to 30, etc. I was hoping Reiza would implement car specific ffb like they mentioned in one of the roadmaps but its either forgotten or too difficult. For now this is the next best thing :)
     
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  4. Eric Bergeron

    Eric Bergeron New Member AMS2 Club Member

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    what is your numbers ? me too ifind it too much inertia and damped !
     
  5. F.Santos

    F.Santos Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    There’s another version that should be coming out soon, just making sure it’s a reasonable file worth posting, for the f1 cars still a bit on the heavier side but the rest feels much better.

    The main problem still is coming up with a FFB that suits all cars with such a varied field of cars. If you make it light/very drivable for formula cars the rest will feel ultra light and vice versa as you already know.

    Hopefully Reiza will soon provide that in game adjustable FFB per car then this file will work perfectly.

    @Karsten Hvidberg @Shadak are having a look at it now.
     
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  6. Alegunner68

    Alegunner68 Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Had a break from the game for a while ( watching too many msfs 2020 vids ), came back to it today and tried full silver raw 6 - stunning, best file yet for me.
    Only changes were raising scrub to 0.8, kerbs to 0.1and friction to 0.07 to add weight in slow corners on the formulas.
    The 6.4 feels way too heavy with numb feeling on the corners so 6.0 is a keeper, i can't see how it can be bettered for my wheel (though Karsten will no doubt prove me wrong!).

    EDIT: something I've noticed is after a crash and repairs, the ffb is weaker. Even if i change car and track it's the same until i reboot, then it's back to normal!
    Could be something to do with the anti-pull bug fix? I don't know.
    More problems yay.
    I just won't crash anymore.
     
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  7. Dam

    Dam New Member

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    Hi,
    after several tests with some FFB custom files, the best one for my personal feeling with a Ts-pc Racer is the "" NuScorpii "Heavy Messing" Detailed version. "".
    A big thank to you NuScorpii. With your file I can feel everything with all the cars.

    Cheers
    Dam, a French simdriver
     
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  8. Nolive721

    Nolive721 Active Member

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    Meme chose ici pour le moment. from another French Simracer with the same wheel!
     
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  9. Slapshot82

    Slapshot82 Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    These new Silver Raw files are really good, especially with the Ultima GTR! The front loading under braking and tire friction/grip come thru on these files incredibly well. Really helps with keeping the car right on the limit. Thanks guys for all the hard work y'all put into these files!
     
  10. Chip

    Chip Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I couldn't agree more. I am really enjoying the latest Momentum 4.0 - Silver Raw Full 6.4 file. It has provided the best experience in AMS2 yet in the P3 Roco around Oulton Park. It's pure fun, and I'm also finding that I'm the fastest while using the file as compared to the other ones. I was previously using the Heavy Messing series, and I think I am a convert now! I'll post my in-game and Simucube True Drive settings for those that are curious. @Karsten Hvidberg @F.Santos @Shadak , thank you so much for creating such a stellar file!
     
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  11. LugNut

    LugNut Active Member

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    Hi,

    Is there any way to invert or reverse ffb effects?
    I ask because I've always had to in any sim I've tried. I use an older logitec wheel, and I feeel resistance and curb effects but no matter what I do I can't feel under steer or oversteer.
    I just tried my older Simbin gtr2 and the mod power and glory 3 and it works really well.
    I've tried the custom ffb fiiles like heavy messing and silver raw momentum files and I still don't feel what the tires are doing. Have read just about every ffb post there is on the net and here and I'm wondering if I just need to reverse effect.
    Thank you.

    Edit...forgot to mention that automobilista had the ffb gain parameter went to -100 +100. Or so I read.
     
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  12. Sting Ray

    Sting Ray Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Hats off to the guys who got these files together. Just had my best ever sim racing experience with the latest custom FFB file. Jerez with the Stock Cars is a must !! For comparison i then went back to the default FFB file and blimey what a difference. Reiza need to employ these guys or adopt their files. Night and day difference for me
     
  13. torsteinvh

    torsteinvh Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Anyone with a Podium DD1 or DD2 that want to share their settings and/or experiences with custom files?

    I have tried both NuScorpii's Heavy Messing 2.5 and Karsten's Silver Raw 6.4 and like them both.
    But both also cause rather violent oscillations on my DD1, something I don't experience with the standard settings. I mostly drive the various F1 cars, but had oscillations with the Ginetta GT4 as well.

    My settings are:
    In-game:
    Gain 50
    LFB 5
    FX 50

    Fanatec:
    FFB 50%
    Natural Damper 25
    Natural Friction and Inertia both Off
    INT 4
    FEI 80%
     
  14. Fernando Zamora

    Fernando Zamora Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Hi.
    I think the custom files are a big improvement over Reiza's standard. But the feeling I have is that the wheels are made of wood and not rubber. I feel like the wheels are solid. There is some parameter that can be modified to improve this feeling. I own a TM TS-PC Racer.
     
  15. Shadak

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    I have a DD1 and no issuee. But I use natural friction instead of damper. Damper is around 5 friction around 10 I think.
     
  16. torsteinvh

    torsteinvh Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Hmm... Tried your friction and damper settings, and that made my oscillations even more violent...

    The default FFB is fine, so there must be some parameters in the custom files that cause the oscillations.
     
  17. Bull Shark

    Bull Shark "Later has already begun." AMS2 Club Member

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    I use the default settings for FFB. When I stand still and do not hold the steering wheel, it starts oscillates like crazy.. I don’t know how to prevent that from happening. Anyone an idea?:D
     
  18. Dean Ogurek

    Dean Ogurek "Love the Simulation You're Dreaming In." AMS2 Club Member

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    Increasing Damper & Friction are generally the most effective means to reduce oscillation in my experience but, may come at the expense of some ffb details. If the details are too harsh at lower Friction / Damper settings, then it's beneficial to increase those anyway. It's often a matter of finding a good balance (sweet spot) between the desired level of ffb detail and little to no oscillation.

    If you find the wheel-driver settings are not very effective at achieving a good balance, fine-tuning a custom profile for your wheel & preferences may be the better solution.
     
  19. torsteinvh

    torsteinvh Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Exactly, so I'm looking for pointers as to what parameters in the custom files i should modify in order to tune down the oscillations :)
     
  20. Chip

    Chip Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Tried the latest "experimental" file, and woah, it's viceral! Out of the box, I think there's a little too much going on (e.g. too many overly-emphasized and competing effects), but I think it definitely has potential! Can't wait to feel the progress as it gets fine-tuned. Thanks for all of the work :)
     

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