Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Karsten Hvidberg · Aug 6, 2025 at 7:40 AM

PeterV said: ↑

Karsten, thanks for the V2.0 - it seems to be the best 'grand total/finale' of all the versions and bit and pieces of changes.

One issue that remains with AMS2 is how they ALLOW huge slip angles as the optimal and a driver needs some way to FEEL the use of that. With no (or very little) steering force reduction on rear wheel slide you lose the ability to feel and uttilise it fully/properly.... plus seeing the visuals are showing you clearly that there is a lot of rear slip angle, I guess your brain creates the overall outcome that 'something is wrong - visual versus feelings' and that is why you feel that the car is a 'hover car'. More so in the rear end than the front end. (probably not at all from the front end)
So that was why I always added a LOT of extra 'rear grip loss feel', to provide that missing FEEL for the rear end.
But in V2.0 the values, or names, are changed.... and after a bit of an investigation it did not seem that any of the given values (and tracking their use in formulas etc) achieve that same result.

So in TONS of ways the FFB information is very good - so many of the varied car situation/cases have information that seems quite well suited. Even with the rear grip loss feel missing, or is it just lacking(?).
The Front Grip Loss Feel is a variable that is never used.....

(oversteer_scale 1.0)
(oversteer_add_after_peaksa 1.5)
Seemed to be new values to do the rear grip loss feel(?), but even with very big numbers it doesn't seem to do much.
And the "peaksa" idea, to separate the low and high end of that feel seems a good idea - but where is it even used? I might have to dig deeper and look harder!

Some (most it seems?) people don't care about this, but it is impossible to drive a car in "REAL-TIME" without real-time DATA. Which in a sim mainly means FFB data (and X amount of visual data, and X amount of sound data - both which are lacking in full information transfer). So the only way to utilise the rear end slip angle is by PARROT FASHION.... just by repetition to learn what is OK or not. Not by truly KNOWING, via feeling, what the rear end is doing at all times then and there.

I will have to investigate more, to see what is exactly being done or not.....
If need be I can always patch in some V3.9.9.9.9.9.9.9.9.5.6.4.3 grip loss feel code to add that functionality, LOL.
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Hey Peter,

I can add in a few variables so you can make it do the opposite of what it does now, so you can kill the signal on oversteer, not boost it as we do now.
There is no parrot game. The oversteer is boosted starting at PSA on the rear.

wegreenall · Aug 6, 2025 at 9:20 AM

I am very excited to try this later on today!! Thank you for all your effort Karsten.

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