Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Heh, ok. Did you try comparing to any real car? If you want the straight on game feel this file is def. not for you.
I'm not sure which wheel base you are using, that plays a role. Another issue is the general suspension/bouncy stuff that will only get better when Reiza gets around fixing it. Sorry about that.
You could try the "Silver Project" files for PC2. The suspension/bouncy stuff is much better there.

But anyways, luckily you have many options for other custom files or even Default.

 

Thanks Karsten, testing new release now. FX is a bit too much for me at 50, but it's all subjective.
Found grip/no grip transition a bit abrupt during undesteer, may be make understeer effect less pronounced so some resistance is still there.

 

Right, good point, I think a variable at the top is required for that as well. We all want it just a tad different

 

Well, just tried the new file after I did a reset and have to say I think I have found what I wanted. Maybe a bit more "lightness" on understeer but I am not complaining!

All hail Karsten (and everyone else involved!)

 

Hmm, I think something broke with the latest one, perhaps some bug but I am getting molasses like damping with damper in game set to 0%. On a positive side, after switching to Default, the FFB is better than it was before. Gosh, this title is weird.

 

I changed the damper to be neutral at 0 instead of 50%, maybe you did not change yours back to 0 for the latest?

Reg. Default it's prob. because you have damper at 50%.For DD wheel bases 50% damping is required there.

I will change Silver to match Default.

And yes, at damping 50% Default is pretty good!

It could also be you changed to custom from Default in-game. That will seriously mess up custom as there's no way for it to pick up some required values. When switching in-game you have to "restart session".

 

only my personal opinion, nothing against you as a person
i will test the PC2 file and see what happend.
i got a Argon+Lenze servo drive based DD wheel, so on the high end side (soon a SC2 Pro v2).
i think the most problems came after Reiza deceided to change the FFB 2 or 3 patches ago...
before it was perfect...
EDIT: and yes they really need to fix finally that bouncing/jumpy stuff...

 

Agree, I think it's the single biggest issue holding this title back from an FFB perspective. Fixing the weird suspension & making it far sportier is going to make a huge difference for both Default & Custom, I believe.
Driving V10 seems to confirm that. The formula cars with little suspension feel far better in all FFB setups, imho.

 

Ok Andrew,

I added the changes you suggested directly & indirectly + as bonus more tyre feel.

* Damping closer to Default, so on DD you can just leave it at 50% for both custom & default.
* Front grip feel less at first and then more progressive towards full grip loss. Also added a variable near the top to adjust "front_grip_slip_feel_coeff". Adjust to 1 for linear(how it was before) and lower than the 0.6 to be even less lossy at first & more towards full grip loss. Set it at 0.6 by default, feels much better to me, so thanks!

Reposted, so link has changed: https://forum.reizastudios.com/attachments/silver-raw-6-6-5-16-zip.11128/

 

Please notice I have reposted the file with a fix for the fx slider.
I had by accident put it so it did no longer adjust the bumps etc.

Updated repost direct link: https://forum.reizastudios.com/attachments/silver-raw-6-6-5-16-zip.11128/

 

Jens,

I came to think of one thing that might help a little.
The custom file is made so the LFB slider is meant to be used for strengthening the center. Here it's not "better" to keep it at 0%, thinking it's then all linear & "the best".
The LFB slider with this file is to be used to make the center feel exactly as you need it to. It's an added adjustment option when using this file, also for DD wheel bases, unlike the Default.

Maybe you already did try & use it, but if not, give it a shot. No problem putting it at 5% or 10% on a DD & much higher on non-DD bases.

Just a thought.

 

i testet the PC2 file and still no...
and adding LFB on a DD base ends in rumbling, so this dont work.
i made a "clean" standard custom FFB file and used NuScoorpis Madness FFB tool and build my own custom FFB file now.
had some minor changes and it feels better now even if its not perfect.
the most problem ist when "rack load" is set to high.
but with this broken suspension its senseless to invest time and will into this game...

 

Ok,
I agree this game is in desperate need for a suspension fix.
But the rest I don't understand.
The Lfb slider when using silver raw custom file does not end in rumbling on a dd wheel base. That is what I explained before.
If you like the old default feel better than the new Default or Silver raw, then I can not help you, since my feeling is very different. Maybe it's a wheel base thing, who knows... Aside from the suspension of course.... That PC2 gt3 cars don't feel good to you using silver project is also beyond me and must be also wheel base or just different opinion on how it should feel.
@Shadak who recently raced various gt cars + formula says that on his DD1 the PC2 feel from that file is very/pretty close to the real feel, as he sees it. An interedting side note is that he says rf2 Porsche Cup car is extremely close/just like the real deal. I'm giving that car a run at SPA one of the days soon 8)

 

EDIT: LFB and min. force mistaken
my fault sorry...
LFB works, min force does not on my DD (or on DD overall).

 

I have damper at 0 with both Silver and Default and Default is much better, Silver is overdampened.

 

Hmm, that sounds weird?
It's subjective of course, but Default at 0 gives me huge pendulum effect, do you use heavy TD filtering (damping or friction)?

But on another note, if you're happy using Default I would def. stick with that as it's just simpler and will only get better, hopefully.

 

Something changed in silver-raw-6.6.5.15, as silver-raw-6.6.5.14 was much better than Default.

0 damper in Default and Custom should be the same, correct?

 

@karsten i have been following your thread for a while now without much success using the DD2 until now. Just used your 6.6.5.15 and managed to jump in a brand new car never driven before and could drive it with more confidence than usual.

Many thanks for persevering

 

Just changed it back, so latest version 6.6.5.17 now has damping exactly as 6.6.5.14 did, direct link:

https://forum.reizastudios.com/attachments/silver-raw-6-6-5-18-zip.11138/
(link for 6.6.5.18 that has a bug fix for 6.6.5.17)

 

And IMHO in game damper is one huge fidelity killer. You can get much better results by leaving it at 0 and compensating via TD damper/friction/inertia. I just set all 3 to 10.