Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

I haven’t dialed this in yet as stuff to do.
But my general settings are :
Tm 75,100,100,0,0

gain 30-40
Lfb 40-50
Fx 20-30
Damp 50

my gain might be lower than most as I like a light informative wheel than I control rather than it driving me.

 

First of all, thank you so much for all the work you do here. This goes above and beyond!

I was hoping to try these but I'm having an issue from version 30 onwards on my Fanatec DD1.

Whenever I'm not holding the wheel I get severe oscillations back and forth that I have to turn the wheel base off to stop as I can't grab the wheel without breaking something.

Any ideas what might be causing this or a fix I could apply?

 

What are your settings, both in fanatec stuff & in-game?

 

To date, for me the best is 31, great job, congratulations @Karsten Hvidberg!!!!

 

copy that !!

 

@Donato & @Mikk Schleifer,

Thank you & interesting,

We have a new version .36 on the way with multiple adjustments, corrections, more relaxed at center again & a new damping algo that kicks in at above 50% to kill oscillations almost completely for those that like the compromise. It's dynamic, so kicks in more by speed and downforce.

I will have to try .31 to see what might make that feel better than for example .34 for some.

Best,

-K

 

I’m scared to try anything else, 34 feels so great. The other 30s felt odd in comparison. So is there a trend of DD preference for pre 34 ?
Between 28 and 34 felt over rubbery and squishy for me.

 

Can you add some comments and hints in the txt file itself? So one can make assumptions and adjustments on the values directly, within the file, to wash away any unfavored effects for his personal taste.

 

Also I think the .34 Med File is the best FFB file so far ....

Currently this approach continues to seem to me the best ... you first optimize the center of the wheel with the highest possible and tolerant LFB values (full and constant center at low and high speeds), then harden the wheel a little with low and/or medium GAIN values (values that are too high, albeit pleasant for many who love a hard steering wheel, expose to peak reactions and / or the pendulum effect that it is better not to have), it is seasoned with the desired FX effects, and finally, if necessary is dampened "as much as necessary" to homogenize everything.

LogitechGHUB
Default

In game
Gain 40-50
Lfb 80-85 (even 100 sometimes if gain 40)
Fx 85 (does not disturb adds effects without anomalous peaks)
Damper 0 (I feel no need for damping, mi sembra homogenized and whitout peak)

Note: With a low GAIN I am very far from the limit of the steering wheel before clipping (even if cheap), I never have abnormal cropping and / or jolts, moreover the pendulum effect is minimized and limited only on very few cars that are almost always undriveable....

Thank you..

Houston, this is my sensation for Logitech G920 (not very powerful and cheap), signing off!

 

I can't seem to post an image, so excuse the type out:

In Game

Gain - Less than 35 (have tried over and above - if I go lower than this, there's almost no FFB)
LFB: 50
FX: 50

Fanalab

Sen: Auto
FF: 100% (as recommended in the instructions)
LIN (Off)
NDP: 22%
NFR: 1%
NIN: 6%
INT: 2
FEI: 100
FOR: 100%
SPR: 100%
DPR: 100%

Would appreciate any help you can provide.

 

Hey Jetglo,

It might be simple. The Lfb at 50% is very high for a dd1, start at 0, and then only slowly raise it from there.
I would think you normally should be in the 0-10% range.

Hope this helps!

-K

 

Perfect - I'll come back to you and try it. Thank you.

 

Using Ts-Pc, what should i change to feel my wheels slipping as soon as possible. Currently with gt1 cars I can not sense the slipping via FFB only visual perception. But with mini it is somewaht ok.

 

Karsten
Fantastic work with your custom ffb mastery. Version .34 is getting very close to the real deal.
I can finally feel and control the slide and throttle steer like a real race car. Bravo. I can't thank you enough for your work it makes all the difference and is making this sim great. Reiza should hire you.
Cheers,
~AxisMagi

 

Looks like this worked - thank you. Although I found I had to change the gain massively depending on the car to stop it happening again.

Some cars, like the Mini Challenge I has to run the gain up to 70 to get a proper feel. However, the formula cars, if I went over 20 the wheel would go crazy again. Is that normal?

 

Yes, that is expected.

The mini & caterhams too I did not examine exactly what makes it so, but easy to adjust the gain high on those.

For the formula cars & other high df cars as well, the custom file utilizes the full available bandwidth & will let that high downforce come to play. So the force will get many times higher than the gain you set it at, under the higher loads. So the only way to have that full range feel-able in your steering wheel is to exactly start out at much lower gain & then it will build up & you get that whole range. When you set gain at for example 40-50% for the formulas, the custom file will do it's best so you still get the range, but it will reach 100% output force & depending on your steering wheel rim & other equipment this can easily lead to violent oscillations on potent hardware.

Good news is that the next version is much improved reg. oscillationes & the damping is improved on top of that, so you will get far less of these things shortly

 

I've also had some issues with oscillations on my DD1, and you might try to reduce FEI a bit. I'm currently running FEI 70 and NDP 25%, and can now let go of the wheel in the 911 GT1 without wild oscillations

 

I am not so familiar with the fantec filters & their namings, but on my simucube 2 I have turned all damping, friction & inertia filters to 0%.
They should be handled by the custom file, where I have damping at 50%.

But it's all however we each like it, just so you know my settings too.

 

Thanks, I have friction and inertia filters at a few %, but without the damping filters on the Fanatec side I get oscillations. I'll do some more focused testing this weekend, and see if I can isolate specific Fanatec filters that affect the oscillations.

 

The last iteration does lend itself to more oscillations than a few versions back. The version I am currently running is appr. 10x better in that regard Hoping to post it later.