Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Tried that too, no way, cant feel what tyres do when cornering, wheel is gettin much too lite,
beside that I hate this effect anyway. Beside that i am on DD 1 and using doubled settings of inthebaghud.

 

Hey Mikk,

Ok, trying hard to understand what exact differences you like more in v31 and so on, just pm'ed you with it.

 

inthebagbud, one additional thought is that maybe adjust the LFB down & gain up?
Lowering lfb and then increasing the gain will give you the same center & then more force on cornering. The gain is basically what sets the cornering force. Then the LFB can be used to set how the center feels.

 

@Mikk Schleifer can you share v31 its gone from the first page, I've been trying to find a setting I like with v40s but I just can't dial it in. At the moment I prefer default although that can be a little over the top at times.

 

Hey psone,

This is really weird to me, can you share the settings you've tried with the v45 as well as car example?

 

are you maybe a masochist?

on DD2 and 100 FF and gain 30 thats pretty strong. Can I just ask what exactly you are looking for? Real race cars have relatively light steering including lower spec formula. The resistance in FFB that tries to make up for G effects is nice, but actual lateral G effects in GT cars for example arent too strong, not the level you the DD2 at

high DF formula feels a bit more of course.

 

Hey Karsten, so last night I tried out v45 with the Caterham Superlight which is what I've been driving the most recently.

Settings wise I tried a number of different combinations a mix of low gain/high lfb and vice versa. I'm using a CSL Elite with the Mid profile. I like how increasing lfb fills the center, that feels quite natural. With default I have to use quite a bit of damping to sort the center out and even still theres a bit of a clunk in the middle. Overall I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with your most recent files just to my taste, they're a little lifeless. It feels very like I expect a steering wheel to feel, which is an achievement in itself, and I think if I had a motion rig this would be ideal, but I don't and at times its a bit like I'm driving a golf safely...if that makes sense. I think its more just a matter of taste than anything else. I've had the same feeling with all of the most recent files I've tried.

I also realise I could probably be getting a lot more out of the custom files by diving in and tweaking them myself, I just don't have the time to go that route at the moment unfortunately. Trying to drive more, tweak less with the time I have available.

 

Ok, got it, I would always say "use Default" if anybody's happy with it, and avoid the fuzz
But we can def. tweak mid file to be more lively. It's hard to know what is feeling lifeless, since on my DD it feels just great.
Is it the kerbs & then suspension not being pronounced enough? or the scrub?
Just curious.

 

Of course.

I think there's probably an amount of nuance that's lost on lower end wheels, but by the same token there seem to be plenty of people on lower end wheels who much prefer these custom files. So in the end it's a matter of preference.

I will try to spend some time comparing default vs v45 and if possible some of the older custom files. Interested in testing v31 and I'll also try to go back and find the last custom file that I favoured over default and see if I can better describe what I'm experiencing.

 

I also always revert back to version 31

 

Karsten

Firstly many thanks for the work you have done

This is so frustrating trying to describe a feel, a nuance, a what........??

So tried 45 adjusting gain up and lfb down , this just made the wheel way too heavy even with a 5 point gain increase and the feedback when cornering was sometimes like driving on a completely flat surface, with no imperfections. Bit like clipping but it wasn't. Feedback about tyres slipping, losing grip isn't really noticeable.

Adjusting the two file settings helped but not that significantly for me to go yes that's it. The wheel felt better in your hands whereas without its a bit bland

so back to 31, setting off from line it is noticeable straight away that you are using 31 the wheel just conveys a connected feel to you and cornering allows you to feel more (only slightly) than 45 but i found myself modulating throttle due to this feedback whereas i didn't do this with 45 it was more by track knowledge.

As an aside, I have also been testing this file Fanatec DD2 Settings - Share yours based on v2.5 which is near to 31 but just a little overpowering in corner feel

Not sure this helps or hinders your quest

 

@Panos Schoino and @Karsten Hvidberg , I'm really looking forward to trying ver .45; thank you so much for your work on it! Couple quick questions: Are you leaving your Simucube True Drive settings the same throughout these versions? Also, is there anything you'd suggest changing as far as in-game settings go with the latest file. For instance, if I prefered Gain=40, LFB=5, and Dampening=0 in previous files, would those still apply with ver .45, or is there some offset due to the changes that should be applied to in-game settings? Thanks again for your work!

 

Tried this, the steering feels ok, but as others have also said, the experience is still quite muted to me. That includes a lack of 'life' felt through the wheel (which is there using default) based on load on the front wheels (on crests/dips, bumps, curbs).

Of course a lot of this is subjective, and I will say that I prefer a bit more meaty, lively and informative FFB. Ideally purely physics based (so rack-only), but since we lack any g-forces in sims you may want to have some additional effects to help detect things like oversteer. (although just the rotation of the car alone would also be felt through the rack eventually, but maybe that's a bit late...?)

I guess for now I'll just stick to Default, which I quite like at the moment, especially with a little more LFB than I was using before.

 

Yes, you should expect to make changes to gain, lfb & damping(lowering it).
I am trying to tie the knows between v31 & v45 now, I do see what the lure of that one is.

 

it's in my video description

 

Is there a chance you started the session in "Default" & then switched to "Custom".
These files need to start in "Custom" from session start.
In that case you just do the "restart session" & it should be good. Just a random thought.

The wheel should not become as heavy as you describe here when you change the lfb down & gain up.

I really think something went wrong in your testing

 

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Thanks this did the trick!!
This keeps the wheel from being yanked out of my slide corrections
Karsten: I tried adjusting the over_steer_scale and the result was very unnatural feeling, front load
adjustment fixed it
Cheers

 

Ok, a bug has been found that makes cornering go lighter on use of higher lfb settings.
Will be fixed. Could be the cause for the issue some people are experiencing.

 

Chip, TD settings: 100% Strength, all filters off or 0%. In game: Gain 30-45, lfb 0-10, FX 50 (i have 55) and damping 0-20. I give you the ranges because they differ between car. For example for the caterham 620R i use gain 35, lfb 5, damping 15, fx 55

 

Try something else, decrease also the yaw scale by 20%