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Automobilista 2 December Development Update

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - News & Announcements' started by Renato Simioni, Dec 29, 2020.

  1. Rodger Davies

    Rodger Davies Active Member

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    Lots of people spotting Long Beach, very few noticing Daytona in the pic with the Cayman.

    I spy:
    - Porsche 962
    - Sauber-Mercedes C9
    - Daytona
    - Long Beach

    Which were all quite likely candidates seeing as they are in PCARS2.


    Regarding this month, glad to see the McLaren join the party - would be great to see a Lotus and/or Panoz added in future to add a bit of depth to the class.



    It's no different to if you buy something and it's available for a discount to other people later. I paid for WhatsApp and it became available for free to all users, that's not 'stealing'.

    When I bought my car it came with a certain feature set - it didn't have Bluetooth connection for playing music, not did it have climate control. Two months later, Seat were offering both of those for free to purchasers of the car. They didn't take anything away from me, that's just how it works. Personally I'm glad if it gets more players to play the game.
     
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  2. Roar McRipHelmet

    Roar McRipHelmet Well-Known Member Reiza Backer

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    In case you missed it, the December roadmap does mention several substantial physics improvements:
     
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  3. fischhaltefolie

    fischhaltefolie Active Member Reiza Backer

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    Could you please explain this to me?
     
  4. Eric Rowland

    Eric Rowland Active Member Reiza Backer

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    I was fortunate enough to see this exact car up close at the historic races during the 1999 Sebring 12 Hours weekend. The car belonged to Murray Smith who was an excellent driver...he won the race!
     
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  5. Dean Ogurek

    Dean Ogurek Well-Known Member Reiza Backer

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    I don't understand resentment toward the choice of Reiza to allow more people to access DLC. Is it fair from a 100% investment perspective? Maybe not but, life is so very often not fair. Look around, that fact should be really evident.

    If we want to make better investments, why not put our money into something that can really pay us back? (Because it usually involves RISK). Any resentment involved, really seems like it stems from jealously more than anything else.

    I just want to see the title advance over time, I'm not interested in assigning specific values and keeping track of who gets more or less from it in the end. I'm just happy to have as many sim-title options as we enjoy right now.
     
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  6. Robbb74

    Robbb74 New Member

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    Thanks, Renato and all the workers 'behind the scene'. You guys and girls can be realy proud of yourselves, showing this determination to make your 'baby' grow and grow.

    Many, many thanks!
     
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  7. Marius H

    Marius H Well-Known Member Reiza Backer

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    on Racedepartment they are going nuts over the new DLC-policy, lol.
     
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  8. Dean Ogurek

    Dean Ogurek Well-Known Member Reiza Backer

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    Hence the unfortunate nickname, "RageDept". It only takes one post to start an avalanche of negativity.:mad::p:D
     
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  9. Rober

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    So people really prefers GT3, F1, etc. "reiza-official" championships without iconic tracks like Spa, Silverstone or Nurburgring than give the oportunity to those without the DLCs to play? o_O
    Because Championships is a core feature of the game and having only Brazilian championships (awesome as they are) with all this cars would be stupid.
     
  10. Renato Simioni

    Renato Simioni Administrator Staff Member

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    Look at it this way - we can either let people get a taste of the DLC tracks on a very restricted way (which is not really devaluing your purchase IMO - if you want a DLC track you´re not seriously going to pass on it because you can get to race it on round 8 of championship X, which might not even be featuring a class you enjoy), or we can avoid using them in Championship modes so not to kneecap a whole game mode for the user base at large, which would IMO hurt their value a lot more for those who own it.

    If you don´t own the track you can only use it at whatever point it comes in an original single player champ (not custom ones you´ll soon be able to create). You can´t practice, Time Trial or do Single races with it if you don´t own it, and you can´t create Multiplayer sessions with it either.
     
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  11. Marius H

    Marius H Well-Known Member Reiza Backer

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    I am all in for only Brasil & UK & Aussie gameplay. Smelling the sweat of amateur-drivers there, the ambiance, the feeling, the lesser/smaller tracks and such. I am happy for Reiza that they can put out such amazing popular stuff with eye for detail and all that. More money means more quality. If they don't get EA/Actiblizz/Ubisoft feelings, tho haha. I don't like the jack of all trades-mantra, but I am not the CEO. As a user I am satisfied. The FFB and everything is topnotch. Only bit lacking on the sim-features, like towing, able to see fuel usage, etc and QoL, but they will get there.
     
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  12. Dady Cairo

    Dady Cairo Active Member Reiza Backer

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  13. Dady Cairo

    Dady Cairo Active Member Reiza Backer

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    +1 :)
     
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  14. Ricardokil

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    And we Brazilians here at all ... do not fix the deficient stock car 2020, without a new sprint race ...
     
  15. torsteinvh

    torsteinvh Member Reiza Backer

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    When I bought into the Early Backer program, I made that decision based on what I personally would get for my money. So far I have gotten what I paid for, if not more, and I am very happy with my purchase :)

    What others have to pay - or not pay - now a year later isn't really my concern, and I don't feel like it devalues my purchase in any way. It if brings more people into AMS2, and subsequently allows Reiza to expand the game even more, that is great.
     
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  16. 2ndLastJedi

    2ndLastJedi Area 51 local Reiza Backer

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    Great roadmap and great decisions about DLC moving forward, a few may be short sighted but it really is for the benefit of most users and team.

    Long Beach, Daytona, Group C, more weather related improvements and Sebring (wishful thinking) 2021 really is looking like making us forget 2020 and fast.

    How can we get more liveries in the series with only one or two per car? Like the Chevelle and Lotus 23? They need a little love too. Having only a few liveries used to mean the car was very early along in development, does this still apply?
     
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  17. Haris1977

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    Great roadmap actually. I really like the ffb per car implementation (i was looking 4 it for a long time now..).

    I really hope for camera improvements too (dash cam not saving its position and you constantly have to re-calibrate it) but i am not sure we are going to have it in this (or the next) update as i suspect it is more of a core problem as this quirk occurred in PCars 2 too..
     
  18. Ettore

    Ettore Well-Known Member Reiza Backer

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    On Race Departments they go nuts over everything every time.. LOL...What's new? :D
     
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  19. Ettore

    Ettore Well-Known Member Reiza Backer

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    Make it +2 :)
     
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  20. pitkin

    pitkin New Member Reiza Backer

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    As an early backer paying for the full package, I'm not bothered about the DLC going free in a limited way to others. If it helps to promote the sim and make it more popular, it has to be a good thing for all of us in the long run.
     
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