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Automobilista 2 Force Feedback Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Domagoj Lovric, Sep 4, 2022.

  1. mustang_304

    mustang_304 New Member

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    Hello, I hope that everyone reading this has had happy holidays and that your life is full of peace and health!

    I hadn't used AMS2 for several days, and just today I did a couple of online F1 Gen3 races (the last Gen2) and immediately noticed excessive front axle grip. Is there really a problem, or is it just me?

    All my Moza hardware is still working...

    I discarded the FFB file I was using and tried Default +, as well as the online lobby settings to rule out any assists that might have been active without me realizing it, went out and did a fast lap, and I kept noticing the same unnatural sensations that weren't there before this update. I use only realistic aids. Does anyone know anything, or is it just my perception due to not using it for a while?
     
  2. Grizzly

    Grizzly Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I do want to point out that since the new ffb profiles got added (with the 2nd of October 2025 update), lfb at 50 and 0 damping is now the default Reiza setting for all the belt driven Thrustmaster wheels (like the ts-pc, which is what i use). they, for me at least, work better then the settings posted all the way at the start of the thread. But j haven't jumped back into the weeds of ffb tuning yet (and part of me is reluctant to)
     
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  3. Grizzly

    Grizzly Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Hmm, after some experimentation I've actually gone back to the values posted at the start of this thread (under the T-GT tab) and embracing the default+ profile, which feels a whole lot better then before.

    @Dady Cairo - You've asked me about these things before, I wonder if you came up with something that works for you?
     
  4. SuperMonaco_GP

    SuperMonaco_GP Active Member

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    we need a new ffb guide the one posted dated back in 2022 with the v1.4 release.
    I have a sc2 pro and ams2 is still the only sim i cannot set up in a somehow decent manner. I already tried custom ffb files, I tried all of them in fact, and didn't find anything of value.
    the vanilla custom profile is kinda good with the steer-rack only forces it applies but it has the same problem that affects all other profiles like default or default+ : the damping slider which should be a good idea but is badly implemented for dd bases, while it provides a nice effect the more you add to the slider the more noise it brings in the ffb, like a strange ffb loop that can't be adjusted even adding smoothing into the wheel driver via recon filter. my guess is that at Reiza they never had the chance to truly test their sim with Simucube gear, and is a shame because I think the content is great and also the physics have made big steps forward since release, but at least for me it remains unplayable with the current state of ffb.
    and trust me I tried so hard and I also want to like this sim so bad
     

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  5. Gabriel "Pai" Legnini

    Gabriel "Pai" Legnini Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Hello man. I also saw your post at overtake page. I don't know if what I'm gonna say is helpful, hopefully it will.

    I have an old OSW IONICUBE, which is kinda the granddaddy of your SC2 wheelbase. Unless you have a Sport submodel, it has less torque than your unit, but it's wilder due to more rudimentary electronics and all-around a servo that, while great on hitting a sweetspot for size, power, efficiency and price (that's what made it so popular for DIY builds a decade ago), it's not tailor made for simracing like newer generations of it, like the one you have.

    Because of this, it's my opinion that if my old brute can work well on AMS2, yours should do it too. Your unit has much better control on its basic design, the electronics handling it, and the firmware overseeing it.

    Now, I don't know what exactly do you expect from the FFB, as it can be extremely subjective, and what you may like about it is something I may not. From personal experience, I will say that I never got along well with the Default profiles of the game, and relied on custom files, until the latest updates rewrote how they work, which made me ditch them and rely on what comes with the game.

    I cannot precisely explain how the damper works, but it definitely does not work like the word implies. I treat it as a value that you need to apply to get the FFB loop in the control ballpark that you require. What I have done is to start with it at 50, and try to bump it up or down in steps of 5 to see how it responds, and go along with my feel until I find a value that I'm happy with. I cannot recall off the top of my head what I have nowadays, maybe when I get home I can open the game and tell the values, which may or may not act as a reference for you.

    If the damper makes you crazy, maybe you should try customs. Danielkart actually developed most of his work with an SC2 unit, and as the damper is embedded on his file, you forget about it, you just set it at zero. On its description at the beginning he also writes recommended values to set on the SC2's firmware, so maybe that will suit you better? :)

    Cheers!
     
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  6. Dean Ogurek

    Dean Ogurek "Love the Simulation You're Dreaming In." AMS2 Club Member

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    I've used an AccuForce / SC1 / SC2 Pro / SC3 Pro with AMS2. In the early days of AMS2, I mostly tested using the Default FFB but, really preferred some of the custom files. More recently, Default or Default+ have become my preferred standards and to me, it's the best FFB of any title on the planet.

    The main setting to focus on (imo) is the use of the AMS2 FFB-Damping. With the AMS2 FFB, Damping is key to achieving proper control whenever using the Default / Default+ FFB.
    Too little Damping and the steering is going to feel overly responsive and out of control / Too much Daming and the steering will feel sluggish and response will be lagging behind during oversteer. I start with Damping at 50% and adjust from there. A small amount of Friction applied at the wheelbase can add some natural weight and stability to the overall steering behavior as well, maybe try between 3-10% range to start with.
     
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  7. SuperMonaco_GP

    SuperMonaco_GP Active Member

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    thanks for the reply mate. I have a sc2 pro so if you run a small mige with the simucube1 ioni configuration we share the same torque more or less
    thanks for the suggestion i will look into it :)
    also, yes i originally posted it as a comment on overtake but i know too well how easy is to start a flame on that website, the home of simracing tribalism sadly

    many thanks man, I already replied days ago but now I don't see the post anymore, don't know why.
    anyway, by chance do you remember what values did you use for direct input effects, like didi ou follow the guide posted here were they suggest 0% for damping, friction and spring and are these suggestions still valid? this is what i meant when i said they should update the ffb guide since so much has changed since 2022
     
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  8. SuperMonaco_GP

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    so after spending 2 days trying to find the perfect balance, I have to say that when you can find it, the FFB slaps hard indeed, so I take back everything I said and sorry for being that harsh
    if someone is interested here are my Simucube2 Pro settings, tested mainly with Porsche 911GT3 v2 at Road Atlanta but they are good for everything else in the game
    FFB profile : Default
    Gain 30
    LFB 0
    FX 10
    Damper 20
    and here are my True Drive settings

    To be fair, Ams2 is the hardest sim to set up regarding ffb, but if you take your time and test what needs to be tested you find that it all makes sense, even though there still are quite some differences between cars and classes, some are really good and some still need some refinement but overall when it clicks it feels good indeed.
     

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