Automobilista 2 Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

I've been happy with the Default+ with my TS-XW after a good experience with rFuktor 4.6. Main reason I switched was trying to eliminate any overhead that could cause stutters. I'm using the following settings with 75/100/100/100/100 in TM Control Panel and no boost:

Gain 55
LFB 20
FX 45
Damping 25
Menu Spring 40

It's a little under damped but it's the best compromise I could find for a lighter wheel and plenty of detail.

 

Same wheel here, having a decent feel in AMS2 ever since.
Remembering FFB feelings and expectations varies in extremis. What is good to me could not be so good for another and vice versa.
Agree with some points.
(1) TM Control Panel: Spring and damper 0, something or 100? Boost, yes or no? If we fix Spring & Damper setting as qualitative (yes or no) we will have 2^3 = 8 possibilities to compare. I wouldn't do such a systematic approach, so I ended up noting that Spring & Damper mainly contribution is to reduce overall effects while Boost works as promised. So my settings are "Default" except for Spring and Damper both zeroed plus Boost on. This setting will impact heavily on user profile Default, Default+ or Custom.
(2) Basicaly we agree about Defalt and Default+ profiles.
(3) There are a lot of good Custom files that feels good to me. And yes, there are too many different responses too. I visited ALL but it demands a lot of testing to setting up the slides and if you notice that there are 4 slides varying from 0-100, and even reducing them to 5 levels (0-25-50-75-100) you will get 4^5 ops 5^4 = 625 combinations (8x625 = 5000 in total). Too much for anyone to test and we are not yet speaking about tweaking any Custom file...
(4) I've began using Custom since rFuktor 4.3 only to find that any Custom is better than the standards (again, for my taste). I'm very gratefull to ALL involved.

If you want to know, I'm using the last tUMi file, where I only changed dt to 0.001 (from my own testings).
Ingame: Gain 100, LFB 0, TX 20, Damping 40

PS: I don't have any knowledge to modify a Custom file.
PS2: Going to revisit Danielkart file soon

 

Your in Game setting on sliders and default+ are very close to what I use on my TSPC wheel that is same design than yours so makes lot of sense

 

Thanks

don’t get me wrong if I want deeper FFB I go the Custom file and tweaking route


What I am asking Reiza is like we have for Gain a key bidding so they could add for LFB and damping maybe FX too so I can adjust on the fly on track
What PC2 does or AC with in Game app provides with sliders you can alter while driving

 

Some people seem to disagree with my following suggestions...not sure why, as many seem to be seeking an all round ffb profile

I think being able to map the 3 other effects would be great.....BUT without being able to save all those effects to per car...your constantly adjusting settings when you switch cars...if they added those 3 settings to the tuning menu with ffb gain it would be great.
Save Per car ffb settings

 

Hi guys. Anyone can tell me how can I avoid the steering wheel bouncing at 0 km/h speed with no FFB changes during normal driving? I've tried to put 70 % of static force reduction of my SimuCUBE SC2 Pro (top max) but with no changes in it. Thank you.

 

I think it works if you reduce the Low Force Boost to 10.

 

I have it at 1.

 

I have the same issue with my CSL DD! My previous Logitech G27 didn't had this issue.

 

So, we need to go to Custom FFB thread, don't we?

 

How much Friction and / or Damping are you using in TrueDrive?

I get no oscillation whatsoever but, use some of both effects with Default and custom ffb modes.

 

Damping 3 % and friction 0 %. I don't want increase more these parameters if it's possible...

 

The problem with the FFB is all the other sims! I use ---- rFuktor 5.0.1.3 ---- which if I play AMS2 for quite awhile feels great good fun, way better than default/default+, however if you then play say raceroom for awhile and come back to AMS2 you then realize actually how bad the FFB is using a DD1 in this game! I really want to stick with this game but the notchy knocking feel, the horrendous brake jolting and the what seems to be a massive deadzone is a real disappointment. I dont use any of the fanatec settings on any sims, NDP,NFR or NIN as I feel these will be applied in conjunction with what the game sends and frankly not needed, Raceroom has far superior FFB and even boring lets race a GT3 ACC has better FFB, but they both lack the single player enjoyment I think I could get out of AMS2! So lets put it to the side for awhile again maybe wait for another update or 2 to pass then give it another run or If anyone has miracle cure please let me know!

 

Then I think you may have a hard time solving the oscillation issue.

Damping and Friction have been staples of every DD-wheel I've used, none have felt even remotely real without them. Just for reference, I typically use 12-22% Damping / 10-15% Friction - depending on the title played. Drifting use may warrant lower settings for greater response.

AMS2 ffb is designed to use the in-game Damping (50% as a starting point). The ffb will not feel good without it, imo.

 

It sounds like you need to apply more LFB and Damping (either in-game or direct to servo) because, I have none of what you describe in ffb. Set both to 50% in-game and see if that helps.

 

In game I have all at 0 unless low force effects at 1. I'll try to put damping at 50 in game but always that I put damping in games, generally I really feel like artifitial feeling... But thank you for the explanation. I'll say how I feel with the modifications you said.

 

I’m sure there’s a heap of people that must delete the shock absorbers out of there real life car and just run on springs only, because that’s effectively what so many choose to do with there ffb .

 

When I was new to FFB-wheels, I didn't know any better either. I just had no idea what "right" really felt like and how good it can be.

 

AMS2 ffb really is quite different in how these effects are applied so, please give them a try and don't be afraid to explore the full range, you may be surprised.

LFB can be very useful to tighten up looseness around center and remove some harshness in effects. I suggest increasing that until the effects seem less dis-jointed, then increase Damping while paying attention to steering response (Speed of the wheel). If the steering feels a bit laggy, you have too much damping applied.

 

Yeah that is just I wanted to mean, about the "speed of the wheel", I was feeling the steering response very laggy. So, I've just tried your modifications and then the OP values for Fanatec DD1 and now I like it more (maybe due from I put LFB only at 1?) , especially with the OP values. So, I like now the feeling with the no power assisted cars. The problem is more with the power assisted cars (especially at slow chicanes), so with these cars I still continue with all at 0 (damping, friction and inertia). I think that power steering avoid in majority these effects...

P.S.: Now I'll try to increase LFB step by step until I feel laggy response again. Thank you.