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Championship Ideas and Suggestions

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Roar McRipHelmet, Jun 4, 2021.

  1. inthebagbud

    inthebagbud Member AMS2 Club Member

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    thanks for the feedback Roar and will definitely check the tracks out. the numbers are the scoring system yes
     
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  2. Roar McRipHelmet

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    Copa Onix Jeans de Fórmula Uno


    Vehicle classes: Copa Uno
    Score type: Top 10 Standard (1)

    Round details:
    • Qualifying: 30 minutes
    • Race length: 30 minutes (2)
    • Standing start

    Calendars:
    The 1993 season didn't use the turbo car that we have in AMS2, The 1994 season had one track that we don't have in AMS2, and the 1995 season had a lot of track repetition on the calendar. I'll let you decide which one you prefer.

    1993 Copa Onix Jeans de Fórmula Uno (source)
    1. 1993-04-11: Cascavel
    2. 1993-05-02: Goiânia
    3. 1993-05-23: Interlagos
    4. 1993-06-13: Tarumã Internacional
    5. 1993-07-04: Londrina Long
    6. 1993-08-08: Jacarepaguá 1988
    7. 1993-09-19: Guaporé
    8. 1993-10-10: Brasília Full
    9. 1993-11-07: Goiânia
    10. 1993-11-28: Interlagos
    1994 Copa Onix Jeans de Fórmula Uno (source)
    1. 1994-05-01: Brasília Full
    2. 1994-05-29: Tarumã Internacional
    3. 1994-06-12: Interlagos
    4. 1994-?-?: Brasília Full
    5. 1994-07-07: Goiânia (3)
    6. 1994-09-04: Londrina Long
    7. 1994-09-25: Caruaru - replace with Campo Grande / Curitiba / Jacarepaguá 1988 (4)
    8. 1994-10-30: Guaporé
    9. 1994-11-13: Cascavel
    10. 1994-11-27: Interlagos
    1995 Copa Petrobrás de Fórmula Uno (source)
    1. 1995-04-16: Brasília
    2. 1995-05-07: Londrina
    3. 1995-06-11: Interlagos
    4. 1995-07-16: Tarumã
    5. 1995-08-06: Brasília
    6. 1995-09-03: Goiânia
    7. 1995-10-01: Guaporé
    8. 1995-10-22: Goiânia
    9. 1995-11-05: Londrina Long
    10. 1995-11-26: Interlagos

    Notes:
    (1) Was really 20-15-12-10-8-6-4-3-2-1
    (2) In the video above, the commentator states that the races were 35 minutes long. But in my sources for 1994 and 1995, the races were between 30 and 33 minutes long. So I think the commentator was rounding up, and that the race length was 30 minutes and then letting the cars finish their lap. (not the "+1 lap" option). Thanks to @Luciano Santos Filho for finding and interpreting the info in the video!
    (3) The source claims 1994-06-07, but since that doesn't make sense with the date from the round before, I think the source really meant July instead of June.
    (4) I prefer Campo Grande because it's the most similar to Caruaru both in length and shape, but it didn't exist in 1994. Jacarepaguá 1988 was raced the year before, and could fit, but the laps are a bit long, so if you want you could replace it with Curitiba or any other track to your liking, maybe Jacarepaguá 2005 Short.
     
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  3. Roar McRipHelmet

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    2014 Aussie Racing Cars Super Series



    Based on the most recent year when both Adelaide and Bathurst were on the same calendar (source). Replacements are either tracks that are similar to their Australian counterparts, or tracks that work well with the ARC and that are otherwise quite rare to drive on with other cars (e.g. because of narrow track width)

    Vehicle classes: ARC
    Score type: JCW UK 2020 (1)

    Round details: (2)
    • Practice: 20 minutes
    • Qualifying: 20 minutes
    • Race 1: 7 laps
    • Race 2: 7 laps
    • Standing start

    Calendar:
    1. 2014-02-27...03-02 - Adelaide
    2. 2014-03-28...03-30 - Symmons Plains replaced with Londrina Long
    3. Bonus round: Salvador
    4. 2014-05-16...05-18 - Wanneroo (Barbagallo) replaced with Cadwell Park
    5. Bonus round: Azure
    6. 2014-08-01...08-03 - Queensland replaced with Hockenheim Short B (3)
    7. Bonus round: Kansai West
    8. 2014-10-09...10-12 - Bathurst
    9. 2014-10-24...10-26 - Surfers Paradise replaced with Long Beach
    10. 2014-11-14...11-16 - Phillip Island replaced with VIR North

    Notes:
    (1) The real point system is 25,20,16,13,11,10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1,1,1...
    (2) Verified to be accurate info, except that usually 4 races are held. Also, race length is determined by the host, but all races I've seen have been 7 laps.
    (3) Hockenheim Short A is closer in shape to the paperclip that is Queensland, but is less fun with the ARC than the B layout.
     
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    Hey - new to this forum. Really good post idea this, as I'm often thinking about championship ideas.

    A couple I thought you could run would be:
    • British GT championship. We've got GT3 and GT4 cars and we have all the tracks needed (Oulton, Silverstone, Donnington, Snetterton, Spa and Brands Hatch).
    • Intercontinental GT Challenge. GT3 and GT4 again. We have 3 of the 4 tracks (Bathhurst, Spa and Kyalami), only track missing is Indianapolis but guess this could be substituted for one of the Racin' USA tracks (Watkins Glen or Road America maybe).
     
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    1974 FIA Formula 1 World Championship



    Since the releases of the 1970's Spa and Nürburgring circuits have been delayed, it's perhaps a bit too soon to share this championship, but I believe that I've narrowed it down to a decently authentic experience anyway.

    Vehicle classes: Formula Retro G1
    Score type: F3 Brazil 2017 (1)

    Round details:
    • Practice ("Friday qualifying session"): 1 hour
    • Qualifying ("Saturday qualifying session"): 1 hour
    • Race 1: Standing start

    Calendar:

    1. 1974-01-13: Buenos Aires Circuito No. 15 - 53 laps
    2. 1974-01-27: Interlagos 1976 - 32 laps
    3. 1974-03-30: Kyalami 1976 - 78 laps
    4. 1974-04-28: Jarama replaced with Cascais Alternate - 72 laps (2)
    5. 1974-05-12: Nivelles-Baulers replaced with Silverstone 1975 chicane - 74 laps
    6. 1974-05-26: Azure - 78 laps
    7. 1974-06-09: Scandinavian Raceway replaced with Hockenheim 1977 - 59 laps
    8. 1974-06-23: Zandvoort replaced with VIR Full - 60 laps (3)
    9. 1974-07-07: Dijon-Prenois replaced with Donington National - 73 laps (4)
    10. 1974-07-20: Brands Hatch - 75 laps
    11. 1974-08-04: Nürburgring 24-Hour - 14 laps (5)
    12. 1974-08-18: Spielberg 1974 - 54 laps
    13. 1974-09-08: Monza 1971 - 52 laps (6)
    14. 1974-09-22: Mosport replaced with Imola 1972 - 64 laps
    15. 1974-10-06: Watkins Glen GP - 59 laps

    Notes:
    (1) Originally, points were awarded on a 9–6–4–3–2–1 basis to the first six finishers in each round, and not count the worst result from both the first 8 races and the last 7 races.
    (2) Or Jerez Moto if feeling patriotic (but Cascais Alternate is closer in feel to the 1974 tracks).
    (3) Until old Spa becomes available. However, VIR Full is also a great track to race with these cars, and was more or less as it is now back in 1974.
    (4) Donington did not open until 1977, but it's the closest we have in feel to the old Dijon-Prenois circuit.
    (5) Until old Nürburgring becomes available.
    (6) The 1974 track had the Ascari chicane which isn't there in the 1971 version. But the 1991 track is too different, so 1971 fits better.
     
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    Gabriel "Pai" Legnini Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Good idea!

    One that I think should be a great add: 1997 FIA GT Championship. The Porsche GT1-98 becomes a tiny bit anachronic, but it's hard to be 100% perfect with historical accuracy on a closed sim with little modding.

    In real life, races were long and driving duties were shared. So unless you are willing to race several hours on your own, I would suggest limiting races to lengths between 90 to 120 minutes. There was also a lesser GT class, the GT2 cars (which would become GT1s the following decade). You could try replacing them with modern GTE or GT3 cars, but the increased refinement of tyres, more effective aero and driving aids could cause uncomfortable perfomance overlaps, plus looking a bit out of place. Personally I don't recommend it.

    Car Class: GT1
    Points payout: 10, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1.

    Round 1 - 13/04/1997 - Hockenheim 2001 - 100 minutes (RL Race: 4 hours)
    Round 2 - 11/05/1997 - Silverstone 2001 - 100 minutes (RL Race: 4 hours, red flagged for weather)
    Round 3 - 25/05/1997 - Adelaide 1988 - 90 minutes (RL Race: 3 hours at Helsinki Thunder)
    Round 4 - 29/06/1997 - Nurburgring Veedol - 100 minutes (RL Race: 4 hours)
    Round 5 - 20/07/1997 - Spa Francorchamps 1993 - 100 minutes (RL Race: 4 hours)
    Round 6 - 03/08/1997 - Spielberg GP - 100 minutes (RL Race: 4 hours)
    Round 7 - 24/08/1997 - Kansai GP - 60 laps (RL Race: 171 laps)
    Round 8 - 14/09/1997 - Donington GP - 100 minutes (RL Race: 4 hours)
    Round 9 - 28/09/1997 - Imola GP - 100 minutes (RL Race: 4 hours at Mugello)
    Round 10 - 18/10/1997 - Road America - 90 minutes (RL Race: 3 hours at Sebring)
    Round 11 - 26/10/1997 - Laguna Seca - 90 minutes (RL Race: 3 hours)

    Feel free to replace tracks that were not there. Helsinki Thunder was a temporary street course in Finland, so it feels appropiate to change it with another street course. Mugello is unfortunately not here, and I think Imola is a better replacement than Monza for it. Sebring could be replaced by many, like Watkins Glen or VIR, or maybe even Cleveland if you want for the race to still take place on bumpy aircraft airways! But still, 8 out of 11 tracks is not bad at all IMO.
     
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    Well, 1997 has another big possibility...

    1997 Formula One Championship

    Points: 10, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1

    Round 1 - 9/03/1997 - Adelaide 88 - 81 laps (Replaces Melbourne, 58 laps)
    Round 2 - 30/03/1997 - Interlagos GP - 72 laps
    Round 3 - 13/04/1997 - Buenos Aires 6 - 72 laps
    Round 4 - 27/04/1997 - Imola 2001 - 62 laps
    Round 5 - 11/05/1997 - Azure Circuit - 78 laps
    Round 6 - 25/05/1997 - Cascais Alternate - 74 laps (Replaces Barcelona, 65 laps)
    Round 7 - 15/06/1997 - Montreal GP - 69 laps
    Round 8 - 29/06/1997 - Long Beach - 85 laps (Replaces Magny Cours, 72 laps)
    Round 9 - 13/07/1997 - Silverstone 1999 - 60 laps
    Round 10 - 27/07/1997 - Hockenheim 2001 - 45 laps
    Round 11 - 10/08/1997 - Kyalami - 68 laps (Replaces Hungaroring, 77 laps)
    Round 12 - 24/08/1997 - Spa Francorchamps 1993 - 44 laps
    Round 13 - 07/09/1997 - Monza 1991 - 53 laps
    Round 14 - 21/09/1997 - Spielberg GP - 71 laps
    Round 15 - 28/09/1997 - Nurburgring Veedol - 60 laps (replaces 95-97 Nurburgring GP, 67 laps)
    Round 16 - 12/10/1997 - Kansai Classic - 53 laps
    Round 17- 26/10/1997 - Jerez Chicane - 69 laps

    Deciding replacements for Rounds 8 and 11 was hard. Replacing Barcelona with Estoril felt natural because it's on Iberia, there is already a race in Spain, and F1 raced at Portugal until the previous year. Selecting alternate for making the track a bit more flowing, layout available is present day one, with the wimpy T1 instead of the fast downhill sweeper of the past.

    Selected Kyalami for Round 11 because F1 has some story at the place, and to have a twisty track replace Hungaroring, also twisty. Round 8...I put Long Beach, but just introduce the track you wish. Nothing feels like a replacement for Magny Cours, and I don't even like that track.

    Note: Distances on layouts F1 never raced were calculated to have the 305-310 km range that a GP usually has, with the exception of Long Beach. It may be too short, could need an adjustment per calculating laptimes.
     
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    Suggestion for a Mugello replacement, if going more by feel than by location: Jacarepaguá Historic 2005.
    It has many corners of the same radius as Mugello, and as long as you can ignore the lack of elevation changes, it has sections with a similar flow as well. And it is period-correct for 1997.
    But Imola works as well, even though it has a bit of a chicane-dominant feel. :)

    I agree, on both accounts! :D
    Curitiba has some similar elements to it, but in the Formula V10 cars the laptime is just 1 minute, and it never was an F1 track anyway.
    Magny-Cours is an amalgamation of several tracks, including Estoril, Nürburgring, Adelaide, and Imola - but it loses the flow that these tracks have. And we can't replace Magny-Cours with any of these, since they are already on the calendar!
    Can't we just pretend that during that race weekend, France had a general strike, so the event was cancelled? :p
     
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    Latest part of the post is not a bad idea at all. Round 8 is a freebie for all, everybody makes of that what they will!

    Mugello is a quite unique track, mostly esses of varying shapes and 3 corners where you sweep around to go the opposite way. Throw in the elevation changes and the hills/mountains and it's even more unique. On that regard, if I had to pick another place based on that feeling, I would go with Londrina, which is a very underrated place. But I still prefer Imola, just because I love that place, and it's still in Italy.
     
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    I'm going through the track lineup, visiting places I never drove at or I did a long time ago. In terms of feeling, a good replacement for Mugello is Curvelo. Lots of fast esses, elevation changes, plus the right vocals in the correct order :p
     
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    Another very suitable replacement for Barbagallo is Cascavel. Gives a very similar vibe, and also keeping laptimes short.
     
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    Formula One 1995 Championship

    Car: Formula V12
    Points Format: 10-6-4-3-2-1

    Schedule:

    Round 1 - Brazilian GP - 26/03/1995 - Interlagos GP - 71 laps
    Round 2 - Argentine GP - 09/04/1995 - Buenos Aires 6 - 72 laps
    Round 3 - San Marino GP - 30/04/1995 - Imola 2001 - 63 laps
    Round 4 - Spanish GP - 14/05/1995 - Jerez Moto - 69 laps (replaces Barcelona, 65 laps)
    Round 5 - Monaco GP - 28/05/1995 - Azure Circuit - 78 laps
    Round 6 - Canadian GP - 11/06/1995 - Montreal GP - 69 laps
    Round 7 - South African GP - 02/07/1995 - Kyalami - 68 laps (Replaces French GP at Magny Cours, 72 laps)
    Round 8 - British GP - 16/07/1995 - Silverstone 1999 - 61 laps
    Round 9 - German GP - 30/07/1995 - Hockenheim 2001 - 45 laps
    Round 10 - Hungarian GP - 13/08/1995 - Ummm...summer break? :p
    Round 11 - Belgian GP - 27/08/1995 - Spa Francorchamps 1993 - 44 laps
    Round 12 - Italian GP - 10/09/1995 - Monza 1988 - 53 laps
    Round 13 - Portuguese GP - 24/09/1995 - Cascais Alternate - 74 laps (replaces Estoril 95, 71 laps)
    Round 14 - European GP - 01/10/1995 - Nurburgring Veedol - 60 laps (replaces 95-97 Nurburgring GP, 67 laps)
    Round 15 - Atlantic GP - 22/10/1995 - Londrina - 97 laps (replaces Pacific GP at Okayama, 83 laps)
    Round 16 - Japanese GP - 29/10/1995 - Kansai Classic - 53 laps
    Round 17 - Australian GP - 12/11/1995 - Adelaide 1988 - 81 laps

    Again, a couple of creative replacements required. Spanish GP this time I moved it to Jerez, as it was not used in 1995, and selected the Moto one for a more flowing layout, in line with what Barcelona was in that year. No suitable replacement again for Magny Cours, so I'm taking an artistic license to insert a return to South Africa before the circus goes back to Europe. Estoril was in place in 1995 with the gancho chicane, but still prefer the layout without it due to how wimpy T1 is on what we have available. As for Aida/Okayama, selected a track based on feeling and how several corners are quite similar. You will have to do an insane amount of laps to match the required race distance!
     
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    A detail about F1 qualifying sessions from 1996 to 2003:

    While the qualifying session was 1 hour, it was limited to 12 laps.
    As there is no way to set a lap limit in the qualifying session, and if we assume a max laptime of roughly 2 minutes at Spa, one workaround is:
    Qualifying: 25 minutes
     
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    Good catch! But a small correction: the 12 laps limit was enforced from Round 2 of 1993 season. So this would also apply to the 1995 championship that I've also posted.
     
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    Let's give a couple more seasons in F1 a shot! We need something for 1978, 1983, 1986 (the one that comes with the game is a tad poor) and 1991.

    Let's start

    1978 Formula One Championship

    Points:
    9, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1.
    Cars: Formula Retro Gen 2, Lotus 79, Brabham BT46

    As usual with these formats, set practice and qualy as you please. If you want to go real, you should have 2 hour sessions for both. But what truly matters are races, right? :)

    Round 1 - Argentine GP - January 15th - Buenos Aires #15 Layout - 52 laps
    Round 2 - Brazilian GP - January 29th - Jacarepagua 1988 - 63 laps
    Round 3 - South African GP - March 4th - Kyalami 1976 - 80 laps
    Round 4 - United States GP West - April 2nd - Long Beach GP - 80 laps
    Round 5 - Monaco Grand Prix - May 7th - Azure GP - 75 laps
    Round 6 - Belgian GP - May 21st - Spa Francorchamps 1993 - 44 laps (former Zolder, 70 laps)
    Round 7 - Spanish GP - June 4th - Jerez Moto - 68 laps (former Jarama, 75 laps)
    Round 8 - Portuguese GP (former Swedish GP) - June 17th - Cascais Alternate - 70 laps (former Anderstorp, 70 laps)
    French GP - July 2nd - Vacant
    Round 9 - United Kingdom GP - July 2nd - Silverstone 1975 - 68 laps
    Round 10 - British GP - July 16th - Brands Hatch GP - 76 laps
    Round 11 - German GP - July 30th - Hockenheim 1977 - 45 laps
    Round 12 - Austrian GP - August 13th - Spielberg 1977 - 54 laps
    Dutch GP - August 27th - Vacant
    Round 13 - Italian GP - September 10th - Monza 1991 - 51 laps
    Round 14 - South American GP - September 24th - Curvelo Long - 69 laps
    Round 15 - United States GP - October 1st - Watkins Glen GP - 59 laps
    Round 16 - Canadian GP - October 8th - Montreal 1988 - 70 laps

    Couple details:

    We don't have the pre 1986 layout at Monaco with the chicane being a terrifying lane changer, but it's an obvious choice anyway.
    Same story with the race at Long Beach, even if the track is quite different nowadays compared to 1979.
    Jarama is replaced with Jerez Moto. Not only both are in Spain, they are both fast, flowing, with an emphasis on fast corners but not overly long straights.
    Zolder gets replaced with Spa, obviously. On this layout, this track debuted in 1983.
    Trickiest ones are Anderstorp, Paul Ricard and Zandvoort. For the former we take advantage of being just after Spain, and we invent an Iberian doubleheader, going to Cascais (Estoril), a track that wouldn't take part in F1 until 1984). For the latter, we add a second visit to Brazil (this is a Reiza sim lol) at the then non existant Circuito Dos Cristais (Curvelo) for a round there, as that track has a mix of things that remind me of both Zandvoort and Jarama (both tracks designed by Hugenholtz). For Paul Ricard, we simply invent a double header and include Silverstone, which alternated with Brands Hatch the hosting of the British GP.
     
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    Next up...

    1983 Formula One Championship

    Points:
    9, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1.
    Cars: Formula Retro Gen 3 DFV, Formula Retro Gen 3 Turbo, McLaren MP4/1c

    Practice and Qualy lengths as you wish, let's get on with this:

    Round 1 - Brazilian GP - March 13th - Jacarepagua 1988 - 63 laps
    Round 2 - US West GP - March 27th - Long Beach GP - 75 laps
    Round 3 - Portuguese GP (former Swedish GP) - April 17th - Cascais Alternate - 70 laps (former French GP at Paul Ricard)
    Round 4 - San Marino GP - May 1st - Imola 1988 - 60 laps
    Round 5 - Monaco Grand Prix - May 15th - Azure GP - 76 laps
    Round 6 - Belgian GP - May 22st - Spa Francorchamps 1993 - 40 laps
    Round 7 - Salvador GP - June 5th - Salvador Street Circuit - 90 laps
    Alternative: US East GP - Watkins Glen - 59 laps
    Round 8 - Canadian GP - June 12th - Montreal 1988 - 70 laps
    Round 9 - British GP - July 16th - Silverstone 1975 - 67 laps
    Round 10 - German GP - August 7th - Hockenheim 1977 - 45 laps
    Round 11 - Austrian GP - August 14th - Spielberg 1977 - 53 laps
    Round 12 - Spanish GP - August 28th - Jerez Moto - 69 laps (Replaces Dutch GP at Zandvoort)
    Round 13 - Italian GP - September 11th - Monza 1991 - 52 laps
    Round 14 - European GP - September 25th - Brands Hatch GP - 76 laps
    Round 15 - South African GP - October 15th - Kyalami 1976 - 77 laps

    As usual, a couple compromises. Round 7, you can choose to replace Detroit GP with either another street circuit, or another classic US venue. Both alternatives are there. Then, French and Dutch GP, we replace them with the by now very familiar Iberian venues.
     
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    1986 Formula One Championship

    Points:
    9, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1. Choose the one you prefer the most.
    Cars: Formula Classic Gen 1 Models 1 and 2
    Practice and Qualy lengths as you wish, let's get on with this:

    Round 1 - Brazilian GP - March 23th - Jacarepagua 1988 - 61 laps
    Round 2 - Argentine GP - March 30th - Buenos Aires #6 - 70 laps
    Round 3 - Spanish GP - April 13th - Jerez GP - 72 laps
    Round 4 - San Marino GP - April 27th - Imola 1988 - 60 laps
    Round 5 - Monaco Grand Prix - May 11th - Azure GP - 78 laps
    Round 6 - Belgian GP - May 25th - Spa Francorchamps 1993 - 43 laps
    Round 7 - Canadian GP - June 15th - Montreal 1988 - 69 laps
    Round 8 - Long Beach GP - June 22nd - Long Beach GP - 75 laps
    Round 9 - Northamptonshire GP - July 6th - Silverstone 1975 - 67 laps
    Round 10 - British GP - July 13th - Brands Hatch GP - 75 laps
    Round 11 - German GP - July 27th - Hockenheim 1977 - 44 laps
    Round 12 - Austrian GP - August 17th - Spielberg 1977 - 52 laps
    Round 13 - Italian GP - September 7th - Monza 1991 - 51 laps
    Round 14 - Portuguese GP - September 21st - Cascais Alternate - 70 laps
    Round 15 - South African GP - October 12th - Kyalami 1976 - 77 laps
    Round 16 - Australian GP - October 26th - Adelaide 1988 - 82 laps

    Compromises are a bit different this time: Mexican GP gets replaced by a last time visit at the old Kyalami, even if FISA swore to never come back to South Africa while apartheid was in place. French GP, our favourite headache by now, gets replaced again by our British double header. As for Hungaroring, we replace it on a different way: we put Argentina as second round, but on the much twistier #6 layout, to have something on the Mickey Mouse vibe have a place on the championship. Finally, Detroit gets predictably replaced by Long Beach.
     
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    Heh, why not?

    1988 Formula One Championship

    Points: 9, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1. Choose the one you prefer the most.
    Cars: Formula Classic Gen 2 Models 1, 2 and 3
    Practice and Qualy lengths as you wish, let's get on with this:

    Round 1 - Brazilian GP - April 3rd - Jacarepagua 1988 - 61 laps
    Round 2 - San Marino GP - May 1st - Imola 1988 - 60 laps
    Round 3 - Monaco Grand Prix - May 15th - Azure GP - 78 laps
    Round 4 - Argentine GP - May 29th - Buenos Aires #6 - 70 laps
    Round 5 - Canadian GP - June 13th - Montreal 1988 - 69 laps
    Round 6 - Long Beach GP - June 19th - Long Beach GP - 75 laps
    Round 7 - European GP - July 3rd - Brands Hatch GP - 75 laps
    Round 8 - British GP - July 10th - Silverstone 1975 - 65 laps
    Round 9 - German GP - July 24th - Hockenheim 1988 - 44 laps
    Round 10 - Austrian GP - August 7th - Spielberg 1977 - 52 laps
    Round 11 - Belgian GP - August 28th - Spa Francorchamps 1993 - 43 laps
    Round 12 - Italian GP - September 11th - Monza 1991 - 51 laps
    Round 13 - Portuguese GP - September 25th - Cascais Alternate - 70 laps
    Round 14 - Spanish GP - October 2nd - Jerez GP - 72 laps
    Round 15 - Japanese GP - October 30th - Kansai Classic - 51 laps
    Round 16 - Australian GP - November 13th - Adelaide 1988 - 82 laps

    Compromises made:

    Mexican GP replaced with Argentine GP
    Detroit GP replaced with Long Beach GP
    French GP replaced with European GP at Brands Hatch. Let's suppose that they wanted to give this track another try as the cars were slowed down for 1988.
    Hungarian GP replaced with Austrian GP at Osterreichring. Slower cars, maybe the track is safe enough? Lol.
    Silverstone 1975 is the closest thing we have to the 1987-1990 layout. Basically, the whole track is the same, besides the final chicane, which is much tighter and turns left instead of right.
     
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  19. Gabriel "Pai" Legnini

    Gabriel "Pai" Legnini Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    1991 Formula One Championship

    Points: 10, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1. Choose the one you prefer the most.
    Cars: Formula Classic Gen 3 Models 1, 2 and 3
    Practice and Qualy lengths as you wish, let's get on with this:

    Round 1 - US GP - March 10th - Long Beach GP - 95 laps
    Round 2 - Brazilian GP - March 24th - Interlagos GP - 71 laps
    Round 3 - San Marino GP - April 28th - Imola 1988 - 61 laps
    Round 4 - Monaco Grand Prix - May 12th - Azure GP - 78 laps
    Round 5 - Canadian GP - June 2nd - Montreal 1988 - 69 laps
    Round 6 - Argentine GP - May 16th - Buenos Aires #6S - 72 laps
    Round 7 - European GP - July 7th - Donington GP - 76 laps
    Round 8 - British GP - July 14th - Silverstone 1991 - 59 laps
    Round 9 - Chesire GP - July 21st - Oulton Park International - 70 laps
    Round 10 - German GP - July 28th - Hockenheim 1988 - 45 laps
    Round 11 - Belgian GP - August 25th - Spa Francorchamps 1993 - 44 laps
    Round 12 - Italian GP - September 8th - Monza 1991 - 53 laps
    Round 13 - Portuguese GP - September 22nd - Cascais Alternate - 71 laps
    Round 14 - Spanish GP - September 29th - Jerez Moto - 70 laps
    Round 15 - Japanese GP - October 20th - Kansai Classic - 53 laps
    Round 16 - Australian GP - November 3rd - Adelaide 1988 - 81 laps

    Compromises again, of course:

    Season opener was in Phoenix Street Circuit. Again, Long Beach is the obvious replacement, but race length is extended to 95 laps, as the Phoenix race was set to go beyond 300 km instead of the usual shortened distance for a slow street circuit, causing the race to be finished one lap before planned as the 2 hour limit was hit.
    Round 6, we again move down to Argentina, this time using the 6S layout. If you prefer the Tobogan, use the classic 6 instead.
    French GP gets replaced by an European round again, but this time, and taking advantage of the legendary 1993 race that took place at Donington with not very different cars, we use that venue, and set the same race distance
    Hungarian GP gets replaced. While you could use the Spielberg 77 track again for a remake of an Austrian GP, I decided to go a different route, create a tripleheader in England and include a Chesire GP at Oulton Park! Twisty enough to replace the original Hungaroring, which was even tighter than at present day.
     
  20. Tim Driscoll

    Tim Driscoll New Member

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    Thanks for these! Looking forward to more if the inspirations strikes.
     
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