Clutch, Autoclutch, H shifter

Make sure you have automatic clutch turned off in both Game options and Controller settings. If either one of those is on then you'll have auto clutch. With both off you should get the expected behaviour.

 

Almost all sequential transmissions of the past 15+ years do not require lift to shift. The electronics momentarily cuts the engine revs to prevent damage to it or the transmission. In the game almost every car with a sequential does not require lift to shift.

Older cars may require lift to shift AND blip to downshift. Some cars had an option to pick one of those, but it couldn't do both at the same time! The early F1 cars even have H-patterns that do not require clutch to shift if you carefully rev match. All of these cars (H and sequential) require clutch to launch the car from a stop and most are "safer" if you use clutch to downshift into first gear (rarely needed) and sometimes for second gear as well. Clutch is always optional for smoother operation on the older cars without the electronic rev matching.

 

The two places are linked are they not? You cannot have different settings because it is in fact just one setting that shows up/allows adjustment in two places.

 

I was only aware of it in controller settings and then you specify if you'll allow assists in that lobby setting. Which I would always say no, I want authentic difficulty applied for that session.

 

It allows different settings for me. If either one is set to on I get auto-clutch.

 

Hmmmm, I wonder how it is possible that if I change it one place, it reflects the change at the same time in both? That should not be possible for the UI to behave differently for you versus me.

 

I think the point to be made is that auto clutch will have a noticeable effect on the handling of cars with sequential transmissions that do not need clutch or throttle modulation. In instances where you are on the limit of grip during gear changes using auto clutch will help prevent the car from losing traction and spinning. It's the same well known "feature" of PCars2.

IMHO if there isn't a manual clutch then auto clutch should do nothing. However currently as auto clutch also changes the throttle setting it has an affect on sequential transmission cars too. I expect it makes the gear change slightly longer for sequential cars too and simulates having a clutch even when it is just a dog box and doesn't require a clutch to shift.

 

Yes

 

All race cars have a manual clutch. What differs is when and how you need to use it (and whether it is a foot pedal like the vast majority or a hand/steering wheel paddle as in the latest F1 cars).

Presumably auto-clutch for people who have no physical clutch controller has to replace every possible usage in every different car, which is why it is so difficult to program in a game like AMS 2 with such a huge variety and vintages of vehicles.

 

Sigh, if we're going to be pedantic then "cars that don't need a clutch to change gear". I thought the intention of the post was clear, and the point still stands. This really wouldn't be a difficult thing to program.

 

It's not pedantic to pay attention to the many details that actually require programming. It may also explain why no other sim than AMS 1 and PC 1/2 has had anything close to realistic transmission modelling for a variety of vehicles. If it's so easy, why wouldn't rF2 and iRacing have it after 8+ years?

It's also so confusing that few sim racers even understand themselves how all these transmissions work.

 

But I also think, and you must of been privy to these discussions over on our discord channel, I really don't see the autoclutch feature being this panacea to a huge performance break through. Like it has been discussed by some on our channel. The best thing to do when out on the sim track is to concentrate on what you can control which is your laptime. Don't worry about what others are doing or what they're up to because you can't control that. And clearly as things stand it looks the people controlling/starting lobbies can't either. So if that is an issue to those annoyed by it to either sit things out until it can be enforced or race offline, or just let it be.

 

I believe you, that you do not see it. The second sentence quoted in your most recent posting is what I was trying to communicate. It has been explained well here by @NuScorpii

 

Hey guys and thanks for the replies!
Now it's working but this time I tried offline only! So maybe in that online lobby, the settings overrode my default settings?! Not sure but I'm glad it's working fine!
Sorry for all of this mess! Maybe it was an overreaction from my side
Thx anyway!

 

I noticed many times a distinct difference in handling when I went from offline to lobbies. At first I thought it was over-riding settings. Then I figured there was a bug ...but did not bother posting a thread about it. Last time I uncovered a serious bug and tried to communicate the issues (albeit poorly) it was so poorly rec'd that I don't even bother anymore here; glad it was someone else who posted about it instead

 

The bug with the auto-clutch is still active. To resolve this you have to recalibrate your pedals and of course you have to set up auto-clutch to off in both control and input settings.