After reading the discussion, I think a lot of you guys have merits. I have a lot of faith in the tire model and in the physics engine to calculate this stuff well, so whatever it is, it isnt completely off base. I just think something is a little out of balance. When cresting a hill, I would expect understeer.... but it seems we get oversteer primarily. I think that's really what confuses me. I could be way off. But it seems like that might feel more intuitive. Do you guys have any rebuttals to that? It happens so quickly it's hard to really tell whats going on. Do any other cars in the game do this?