Formula-Retro drivability

So far, so good....remember the answer by Ethan about turning abilities in the F-Retro?

I definetly like the improvements, i can handle these cars better in different situation, without too much task saturation, hindering concentration on the "whole picture" for me.

And i still think, something make them less agile, as they should be, for a car with the engine in the mid-rear and reportedly high initial turn-in, while forcing it a bit on the "stall-limit" ("like a fighter plane").

I just ran a few laps on Bathurst with the M23 in TT and practice mode and focused a bit more on one thing:
Turning under braking is basically restricted a lot in AMS2. It takes away all the laptime and drivability. I get off the brakes, until just my toe presses it (not overexaggerating) and the car turns immediately.

Trail braking, even if executed more slightly, becomes a bit of a theoretical improvement, costing chunks of time, instead of just letting it coast or babying it on the brake as if you just use a toe for the brake. (This is the thing i still suspect, why drivers were literally 3-6 seconds off-pace sometimes in multiplayer).

Sometimes, the F-Retro cars become even more agile, when applying an amount of throttle, while braking into corners.

Why is the starting pressure of tyres at 1,7 bar in TT? Isn't this a bit much or should this be optimum hot-pressure? My cold pressure input was around 1,47. Pressure was also falling while driving.

Some whining, pls ignore, it's just venting like Starship SN5 abort the test, when a boat appeared in close range, while awaiting static fire testing:
I don't know what it is, but driving old formula cars in general becomes very frustrating in AMS2 for me...all of them have some quirks, that make them feel hard to be believeable, sometimes.

 

Was your Bathurst time done with geared? I should try geared then, have the game open right now, never tried it...maybe it's the "magic" thing, to make it more fun...

Btw. got'cha (With clutch diff applied EDIT: went 7 tenths faster with the geared diff)

EDIT:

Holy cow...this is a major difference. Especially on the brakes. I have just driven 3 corners and can already tell...

 

I was on a 1:58.95 with clutch LSD.

I am on a 1:58.2 with geared diff and fitted ratios. And this was not even golden freezer form of pushing...

The geared diff is almost one second faster without totally nuts pushing (and also feels that way) as the clutch LSD with full push...
Especially under braking and on throttle management this configuration is working excellent.

@Renato Simioni
The geared diff almost works like a cheat on the F-Retro. It's definetly a lot easier to drive (into corners) and even feels more believeable. Just for the definitive reporting of an anomaly, if it is one. (Under braking and coasting, the geared diff actually feels like an opening diff, unlike the LSD, that feels as if it tightens all up totally and remains locked or something)

I can use higher brake pressures in the setup and on the pedal, too...

 

Especially on modern tracks it's a lot better. On fast corners LSD it's working okay, like Kyalami.
But on Kyalami it's also faster with geared, i think... i almost matched @Andy-R with the geared diff and i wasn't going all-in...but with his gearbox settings (your gearing is bad-ass, Andy!), combined with stiffening of suspension (thanks to the tipp by Renato Simioni), the car becomes better with the LSD and more controlable over bumps and dips. BUT the LSD still feels horibble in the slow sections, i understand, why he is using so much rear brake bias . EDIT: Btw. Also got'cha, but i used LSD, because i didn't wanted to cheat.

With fuel in normal sessions the F-Retro also feels more believeable and fun in general, when using the geared diff. Mhmmm....

 

I have stolen and adjusted your setup to my likings on Spielberg right now, and will try the BT44 and maybe also get those 4 thousands out of it. (LSD will remain in use for the hotlap, i don't wanna cheat, i just did on Bathurst )

The Lotus is definetly faster on Kyalami in general, compared to the M23.

I think, the BT44 is also faster, than the Lotus on Spielberg, if made drivable.

Seems, i have to learn to adjust gearbox ratios better, this helped a lot, also on throttle on Kyalami...almost 1 second improvement.^^

The difference is mostly noticeable on tighter sections with geared diff. On long fast corners it's fine with the LSD, when braking isn't that hard...it's strange...Mid-Corner you have to be a short time completely off throttle sometimes, when using the geared diff, but overall, it dives into corners a noticeable amount better and more agile.

 

In general. Braking with the LSD into tight corners can take away almost all steering authority, when overdone. Other configurations not that much at all.

Try the geared differential, it's day and night into slow turns. It's almost a "cheat"...

 

Not in the mood for online racing today.^^

When you stiffen the springs, ARBs and dampers 1-2 clicks, the other cars are more stable over dips and crests, than the BT44. The Brabham is pretty on rails while throttling up, yeah. It went faster by quite a bit right now on Spielberg...btw. got'cha (also LSD in use)