General AMS2 Release & Feedback Topic

Problem is, when you go negative preload, it will be hard to lock the diff and you understeer on exit more.

 

Thats what I tried, it is very slightly better than default but still getting quite a lot of understeer on entry.

Issue with angles not being very effective doesnt help either.

 

Not sure what you mean about the revs?

Interesting thing I just tried... so I turned Viscous LSD down to 0Nm and it suddenly turned better???
(with preload around 30Nm and coast angle above 80). Will do more tests but I thought Viscous LSD wasnt turned on as it was greyed out. Or is it just permanently on?

EDIT: looks like I was just imagining things, seems the same.

 

I edited this it didnt make a difference in the end what made it better was the low preload. At around 30 its actually OK.
(but definitely try negative, its at least fun to test)

It seems like this game works based on purely preload or something.
When I change coast ramp angle, it doesnt make any difference. Tried both extremes but it was the same, just felt like its doing whatever I set preload to.

 

Viscous damping I think is there just for figure and it's (hopefully) not considered in calculating locking torque (it would make no sense otherwise).

Preload should make very low difference respect to ramp angles, at least in full gas and low gears on high power vehicles.

This is not the case here.

 

Thing is, in almost all other sims I ever played and according to technical explanations of how Clutch LSD angles work, high coast angle should let your wheels rotate almost independently becuase its so difficult to lock the axles (due to high angle). Or am I misinterpreting? Im no mechanical engineer so could be just I dont understand full of course.

I had to make a video, tested this in rFactor2

Dont mind me driving style, just tested the turn in, first low locking low preload, nice and sharp, too sharp but thats what I wanted to test. Second high locking high preload, very difficult to get inside, drifting off to understeer, particularly the last bit on low lock I just nudge it in and on high lock i have to fight it and still understeer. I cannot get this clear behaviour in AMS2 without messing up with preload (to extremes or negative) and then angles almost dont seem to matter.

 

If only I had a decent telemetry tool (the one I bought and you know is terrible) and some time I could easily answer...

 

Yeh my bad, sorry

 

Appologies for my tone had just come out the game.

Just looked abouve and yes see as admin post but to be fair does not seem to address things that have been brought up previously in this thread

Been out on track again and the track limits are just so wrong. If I clip a barrier, get slow down, go wide on the outside of a corner, get a slow down. Both these actions do not give me any advantage.

Been playing with friends and they too have notice the track limits have become too agrressive

 

I did more tests today .. and in other cars, the changes actually work quite well. Ultima GTR for example is quite nice at this. Default preload, low angle makes it hard to turn in sharply and high angle makes it much nicer and tends to oversteer/over-rotate. Which gave me a bit of hope that the underlying clutch LSD setup mechanics arent broken.

I did more tests in M23 again and with the 2 extremes, it actually wasnt 'AS' bad as I remembered. But it wasnt very consistent. At 30 preload and very high angle (85 etc.) , I could make it turn in better than default, but still much less than AMS1 or rF2 equivalent and some times it would still drift off into understeer on coast.

And also it seems like tires are super difficult to warm up so it might just be losing grip overall.

 

Yeah, oh well, I think ill dedicate my weekend to diff tuning...

 

Excellent--so it simply needs a few tweaks, like every other car introduced into AMS 2 has needed so far!

I have a simple question--should there not be just one diff option (whatever was in the real cars)? I know it is fun to have a "sandbox" approach to diffs, but why would that be the case only for diffs? Either make every vehicle completely customizable, or, stick to the historically accurate/authentic options, no?