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What LMU doesn't have is all sorts of other content

Stuff like F1 cars of various eras, loads of tracks that are not in WEC calendar (and unlikely ever will be) - there's plenty of content to choose from already and yet there's a race who will release Aston Martins first

I prefer variety and ability to go occasional kart vs F1 wacky races which LMU won't satisfy

 

IMO LMU is only super popular because it is ACC 2.0 and became it at the right time

 

Uhhhh.... the only similitude I see is the focus on a given real-life competition (licence) and the fact people start to move from the idea that ACC had the 'best GT3 cars in simracing'... (Aris leaving Kunos had an impact).
Remove GT3 cars and those titles would become more sterile than Mars (even when many people find non-GT3 cars more fun to drive).

 

Personally i dont know if the comparison to LMU is quite applicable?
LMU is a new title. The multiple updates they have been releasing are to complete the base game itself. With the content (Cars and Tracks) that meet the real-life counterpart.

I would imagine once the game hits 1.0 and an official launch, the content and update schedule would also similarly drop.

In my opinion, AMS2 is already quite a mature title, with lots of variety in cars and tracks.
Yes whilst i agree that it was communicated more updates would be flowing than they are currently - I dont think we can quite compare the amount of DLCs of 2 games in different stages within their life cycles?

Just my opinion.

 

Better to wait for an update when it is ready than chasing a random date and having an update like LMU had today. For example, they broke fixed setups, tires get 0% grip unless you select new tires in setup, and if you have a number in your user name you can't race. That's only the top 3, there's more.

 

I guess we were talking about communication not deadlines.

 

Oops, sorry

On a side note: looks like LMU has already issued a hotfix for the worst bugs in the update.

 

A patch was just released this morning adressing some of the issues. When there's a big update like yesterday's (the game when from version 0.5 to version 0.9), issues will always come up. Version 1.6 of AMS2 was also followed by some hotfixes.

 

I've seen many updates from various simulations, but this update from LMU is one of the worst I've ever tested. Not only are GT3 and GTE terrible to drive, but there are also undrivable bases. The performance of the various bases ranges from okay to terrible. I have no idea what this studio was thinking. This is, of course, my personal opinion. I hope Reiza never makes a similar step in tire physics

 

They released a hotfix for the update

 

I tested it after the update, and as I said, it's unplayable for me. My personal opinion: if others like it, it's not a problem.
At least, it's not drivable for me at this point. A lot would have to happen in the next few days or weeks for me to change my mind

 

I bought LMU just prior to their big update, I thought it wasn't better than AMS2 driving wise and the ffb felt horribly grainy. But when I tried the update, for me the ffb felt smoother and you could feel the front end a bit better through corners but the rear tyres are extremely unforgiving, insta-spins if you go slightly over the limit is excessive. Plus cold tyres are worse after the update imo. The tyres definitely need some tweaks.

Still buggy

 

The tires definitely need a lot or even some improvements. The only cars that felt okay were the hypercars; everything else was a huge disappointment. Additionally, the different bases are extremely different to drive, which, to me, is further proof of the problems with LMU. I don't want to discuss the physics or the FFB here; others can do that. I'll keep following it, but for now, LMU is out for me personally

 

Honestly comparing between sims will never make sense to me. Lmu has updates already programmed since release because they are a game based ONLY on WEC. Of course the updates come at a regular pace, it's content that should have already been in the game already and they make you pay for it since it released in early access.

 

I highly value your opinion on FFB and you‘re not the only one who is disappointed by the new GT tyre model.
I can‘t test at the moment and I will only be able to in a couple of days, but before the Update I preferred LMU over AMS2 on the side or car handling (content wise I prefer AMS2).
I hope that I like the new tire model or can get used to it very fast. One thing I really don‘t understand is why Studio 397 is not documentating TC and ABS better. For example, higher values on ABS doesnt mean more ABS, but different types of activation and axis shifting. Same for the TC options, for sone higher values are more intervention and for some higher values are less intervention. How you‘re supposed to know?


Edit: I want Richard Lietz to take the Porsche 992 GT3 around Spa in every Sim available and than say which one felt the best for him.
Yes, there are some drivers out there that are doing this, but Ritchie would be special.

 

Honestly, I can't believe LMU will leave the physics/FFB as they are now. If they do, I'd be very surprised. We'll see how it develops; until then, I'll personally stay away.
You can ask three real GT3 drivers, and you'll definitely get three different answers, for completely different reasons. You can ask three professional eSports sim racers, and you'll definitely get three different answers, for completely different reasons. You can ask three amateur sim racers, and you'll definitely get three different answers, for completely different reasons. What I'm saying is, you should decide for yourself, listen to your own feelings, and decide according to your taste. If I say I don't like LMU at the moment, that's just my opinion, but it could be completely different from yours or other people's. Enjoy what you like, and everything will be fine

 

At the risk of writing an off-topic post...

This is not true. The DLC content in LMU was never promised as being part of the base game it was the 2023 season that was included. All the DLCs are for the 2024 season.

 

I honestly really like the new tire model of LMU. Before most GT3s felt like boats, with insane amount of grip so you could just abuse any curb or dirt with no influence how stable the car becomes, especially BMW and Mustang just were glued to the road. Now you have to be more careful, be cleaner with your input especially with trailbraking. I honestly think the GT3s now feel quite similiar to AMS2

Can't agree that the cars suddenly snap. The FFB works and gives good feedback that you pushed too hard. It feels like I finally get feedback what the front tires are doing under braking.

It will certainly push players away that liked how simple the GT3s were to drive and that don't want to improve. But the studio surely have to adjust a few things like GT3 tires taking way too long to get on temperature. Base setups and AI difficulty are not adjusted to the new model. And overall the current state of the game is really broken (before yesterdays hotfix I couldn't click on start driving without crashing, now the game crashes every time the session switches from training to qualify and again to race, so it's unplayble online)

New Announcement is out now too, Valkyrie and AMG GT3 and all 2025 liveries come for free in 1.0 update on July 22nd. European Le Mans Series will be added in the future with LMP3, Silverstone, Paul Ricard and Barcelona. And Career mode is expected to launch Q1 2026. Sounds really promising.
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