Official General AI Comments & Discussion Topic

v1.6.9.9
AI strength 109
Aggression High
AI mistakes 2x

Practice Session
Watkins Glen
GT3 Gen 1
Turn 5

I'm on the inside. Front bumpers were even going into the turn. AI drove on the racing line even though I was on the inside. Cleaned me out. Watching the replay it didn't look like a mistake. It looked like the AI was behaving like I wasn't even there. 100% on the racing line. No recognition I was there.

Before this patch I have never seen this AI behavior before

 

v1.6.9.9
AI Strength 95
Aggression High
AI Mistakes Standard

Single Race
US Stocks - 2nd Gen

25 minutes into a 35 minute race, 100% of the AI opponents ran out of fuel and retired. I spent the last 10 minutes on the track by myself.

EDIT: I'm an idiot. For some reason I had disallowed refueling during pit stops.

 

Ok, but then how did you finish? Is AI failing to take enough fuel at the start or something?

 

v1.6.9.9
AI Strength 93
Aggression High
AI Mistakes x3

Single Race
F-USA - 3RD Gen
LONG BEACH
First 5 corners

They seem to have no situational awareness and straight up ram you either from behind like you're their brake buffer in turn 1 or on the side between turn 2-6. Not been able to get a collision-free or manageable first lap before in long beach with the F-USA cars since this update. Wasnt as common before. Some will launch into from above because they tried to cut through the fountain between turn 2 and 3. Tho that bit does make me laugh sometimes

Tried same conditions with the V8-Gen2 f1 cars and was able to race collision free. While we are on this, (I'm sure many have said and that you dont wanna hear it again) but oval racing AI remains somewhat blind to your car even when ahead.

Thank you.

 

As keeps being said, We Need Videos!

 

That's a fair question. I crashed a couple of times, spent some time sitting in the pits getting repaired. Then coasted as much as I could in the final 5 or 6 laps just to see if I could manage the fuel all the way to way to the finish (since I was the only one out there, pace no longer mattered). My engine literally shut off while I was coasting down pit road at the end of the cooldown lap. So, yeah ... I made it, but just barely.

I had initially assumed that I got gas when I pitted for repairs. But in hindsight, I don't think that was actually the case. Pretty sure that this was a user error, especially since I don't normally run the stock cars, I don't normally run ovals, and I don't normally run races long enough that fuel would become a concern.

 

What's the best way to record videos in VR?

I tried taking pictures/screenshots in the replay with the Photo Mode. They exported but couldn't be opened. Corrupted I guess.

 

I think people complain too much about the AI. I still find it far better than the way humans behave in many online races I see out there; that’s where the real madness and chaos happen. I just wish the issue of cars driving in a train formation would get fixed.

 

May not be the best solution, but one that will work: run your race, save the replay, close and reopen the game in normal screen mode, run the replay and record that.

I have the same problem as you and have not found a better solution yet.

 

I don't know if it's the best, but if I want to record something I use OBS and record the mirrored desktop screen as I play. Then if i need a screen shot I use windowskey+shift+s
As others say, saving a replay then reopening it in non-desktop mode would be a good plan.

 

@Marius H have you guys considered adding a bug report tool in game that includes sending a saved replay file?

It would be super convenient for users and you would get a lot more videos sent that way. Just an idea.

 

Here's what I imagine ...
I enter in the report "AI behavior at turn 5". It sends a log of the car, track, weather, and anything else you need and a saved replay. Simple.

I've worked in game development for 22 years myself. I appreciate how hard it is to make a game let alone a great game. So kudos to you guys. Yes you may end up with some spammy bug reports. BUT you also end up with bug reports you never would have received otherwise with better information in them.

Thanks for looking into it. The game is great and the studio is great. Keep it up

 

So I just replicated the AI behavior in turn 5 at Watkins Glen a few times. View Replay is bugged. If I go into replay, exit, then go into replay again the replay is broken. If I Skip to end, then enter View Replay the screen is solid black. Can't recover. Have to shut down the game.

Anyway go side by side with the AI into turn 5. You on the inside. They dive bomb the corner from the outside

 

Hello. It's best DLC ever made. And I love it. Recently I have been playing GTR2 again , but now with Reiza efforts it's been a real revival. Project Automobilista Racing is on the peak. Really great grid can be done now. Cars feels alive, as always, can be forgiving and punishing. Love it.

Prepare hate and tomatoes, but no, I just wanted to point on some things that on my opinion can be improved. Noone feelings intended to be hurt.

Milano GT1 - sound does not feel like V12, honestly.

AI. I don't know what people say about aggression - I think it's good. But. I play on medium aggression, 102% and here is my verdict:
Reiza must not releasing career mode to the game. AI are super inconsistent track to track. Career would feel like glitch in this circumstances when opponent go strong one race and go like newbies in another race. I think gtr2 or race07 AI were great for this reason of consistency.

Gtr1 cars AI go through Red Water at Spa on full speed (while even on modern GT3 it's quite a task), while you feel it's literally impossible to g flat out there. Same time on Suzuka at most of the corners same 102% are slow as letting you go.

Another Ai glitch: opponent in front of you goes a bit slower, you over take him, as well as you overtook other opponent before. Later for some reason all the cars behind start go like a devil, braking 2cm from your rear bumper. How do they brake so ideally and go through the corner faster then anyone, while their racing line was totally of, for example?
Finally you let some of them pass - and most of the time the Ai start to drive slowly again.
It's like a slingshot racing.
Also I have noticed AI cars usually like to devide into small groups of 3-5 cars. It's seems okay, but when it happens on every race in different track - you see it's a programmed, and non immersive.


Racing with AI is fun - probably. Natural or Do you believe it's some sort of human being ? No.

So, I think AI is the weakest point of the game , and wish Reiza can make it same good as that have done FIA GT DLc. Thanks you. Welcome to dislike

 

I know this is something you can do but this seems quite a weird set of AI settings to me.

AI Strength 93
Aggression High
AI Mistakes x3

You've got the AI fairly low, but aggressive and prone to making mistakes. Are you doing qualifying? If so where do you start or are you starting at the back of the pack or a fixed grid position?

I've not done much racing on the latest version but I always found the the AI made far too many unforced errors even at 1.0 so I run it at 0.5. If you're running 3.x mistakes with the AI aggression on high it can't help on a track like Long Beach.

I know you've been able to do these settings with the V8 Gen2 F1 cars but the first set of corners has always for the tricky for the AI at Long Beach. Have you tried increasing the Strength and lowering Aggression a notch and Mistakes down to 1.0 to see if it improves things?

I think the AI will forever struggle with certain combinations of settings. For Reiza to stand a chance it probably has to be designed around some sort of AI driver standard equivalent to who would be able to race in that class in reality.

 

I belive that one of the things about AI mistakes is that they are scaled depending on the car classes, so AI driving F1 cars are going to have fewer mistakes than those driving formula Junior.

 

Hey guys, easiest way to record video in-game is to use Steam itself.

I have it set by default to record 2 hours of gameplay (with certain games excluded manually). If you want to enable it for a single game, in your Steam library, Right-click on the game title on the left, go to "Properties", then Game Recording and Enabled Background Recording. You can also click through to "Manage Game Recording" from there which will also enable you to press Ctrl+F11 (by default) manually commence recording if you don't want it to be automatic.

 

If you wish for improvement, it would be helpful to provide detailed reproduction conditions or a video so that developers can analyze the issue more accurately.
It would also be beneficial to include the version in which the issue occurred so that we can verify if the fix has already been implemented.
As a fellow member of the community, I kindly ask that you organize the conditions and symptoms in more detail and post them on a dedicated thread for the benefit of the developers. I hope the issue you discovered will be improved.