Official General AI Comments & Discussion Topic

Instead of overtaking each others, AI go side by side for ages, without having the car off the racing line losing speed or grip....

 

Just finished my first race at Goinia 2017 championship. AI was at 90/90, about my level. They seemed to be great and competitive. I raced very hard and was able to take the lead. This was a 40 minute race with mandatory pit stops. I pitted with about 7 or 8 minutes to go along with some other AI. As we came out of the pits, I stayed as far to the right as I could, accelerated as fast as I could.. and saw this freight train of cars coming down the front stretch. I thought "surely they will brake or move over and not run me over" lol... but one dude in a black car just seemed to go full power and rear ended me (I was still way over to the right hoping to avoid any trouble).. but I watched him and he never braked.. he sent me flying straight into the grass then wall and I went from first to last lol.. A few more instances I was able to avoid a wreck by anticipating the AI doing something stupid, so I slid over just in time as he blew past me.. sometimes it's as if my car does not exist on the track, only other AI. This only changed recently so I don't know what happened.

 

Then again, maybe the AI is realistic lol.. look at time 6:25 ... first lap of the first race of the 2017 season (real world)
(2) Stock Car 2017 1ª Etapa Autódromo de Goiânia - GO - YouTube

 

No problem, maybe a missunderstanding... because you quoted my post first...
Yes, I think you are right, too. There is no difference in behaviour of the drivers. With the last build, the "personality" is much, much better (I think I am driving against myself) but all with the same quality, experience, speed. No / less difference.
In earlier builds I didn't recognice it but with the GroupC race at Montreal 88 it was clear, the AI has no 'talent' they are just driving as fast as possible weather their fuel tank is full, the tyres are worn, and son on...

 

Hey Reiza team and forum racers people,
1st time post and I am afraid is not a good one.

I would like to report some issues with the AI for a specific combo, details below:

• Car / Track used: Catheram Academy / Imola (the newest track)
  
• AI Strength setting: Tested on 80-85-90
  
• Corner (if issue is corner specific): On all straights the AI just cruises, seems like no accelerate input
  
• AI Aggression setting: 50
  
• Session Distance: 10 laps
  
• Weather when the issue was observed: Real Weather, Clear
  
• Player Tyre: default?
  
• AI Tyre (if known to be different from player): default?
  
• Type of session when the issue was observed (practice / quali / race) : Single race

Otherwise, keep up the good job! GG

 

One silly question:
Does Reiza have an advertising contract with MercedesBenz?
With GT3, Mercedes is unbeatable.
With GroupA (DTM), Mercedes is unbeatable.
With GroupC, Mercedes (Sauber-MercedesBenz) is unbeatable.
With F-Truck, I don't know at the moment.
Not Mercedes - AI is much slower, driving as human against Mercedes you can take the speed with them but without being faster.

 

Car: Mercedes 190E
Track: Nurburgring Veedol 2020
AI settings: 100% skill, 55% aggression
Session: 15 lap race
Weather: default

AI has noticeably worse acceleration than the player at medium speeds. It happens all through the race but is most visible during rolling start:

They're doing something fancy with their brakes but I can easily overtake by just flooring the throttle.

Also, they seem to be consistently slow through turn 8 (left-hand uphill kink after the hairpin), like they're lifting way too much, but it's hard to be sure if it's just part of the same problem.

 

True. Same happens with all group a cars in all tracks with standing start. I can start in 20 th place and easily pass 10-12 cars (track depending) only by flooring the gas..

aka group a ai seems slow at the start of the races

 

This is a known issue, group A have a specific problem off the start - see Official AI Report Topic (note Renato's reply)

I find the Mitsubishi Evo is the opposite - all AI cars pull about 10-20 metres on me off the start, no matter what I try (is anyone able to match their standing starts? If so, how?) However, they're slower than me on straights and I can easily pass them again (AI set to 100%).

 

Yes more ai is worse terrible in thunderstorm or worse wetter (last week same track various qty of ai) 8 restarts due to ai ti t3

 

The 99 Stock Cars are also WAY too fast off a standing start compared to the player.

 

Just finished another 2017 Brazilian Stock Car Championship race. Before the race I turned the AI aggression down to 70. AI strength remains at 90. When the AI started pitting, then they started to wreck each other. It seems like they don't slow down after the long straight at Goinania. Any car (me or AI lol) coming out of the pits gets smashed... and into the first turn several cars are spinning. AI speed seems ok but the aggression.. or .. I'm not sure.. something is not quite right.

 

Ok AI set at 50% Aggression seems to be the sweet spot. At 70% and above, they were still dive bombing each other (or not really paying attention to another car that was occupying their line lol), at 50% they seemed very realistic and would pass if an opening was there, but not run you over if you blocked. I had some epic battles! I'm only driving the 2017 Brazilian Stock Cars so I have no idea how the other vehicle AI's work.

 

Are you guys talking about the 2019 Stock Car, or is there a 2017 version I don't have in my game?

I am going to try 50% aggression now. Used to always run at 50%, but had increased it for a while, but should try 50% as it may be the equivalent of the default.

 

Version: 1.1.2.5
Car / Track: P4 at Cascais
AI Strength: 92%
AI Aggression: 50%
Session Distance: NA
Weather: Clear
Player Tyre: Soft Slick
AI Tyre: NA
Session Type: 5 lap quick race

Even with the AI strength at 92% the AI winner of this race finished 11 seconds ahead of me in 2nd, and had a best lap 0.5 sec faster than me. The 3rd place spent the entire race with his rage turbo on trying to overtake me on the grass. The rest of the field finished 9 sec behind us in a bunch.

 

Sounds in part like you needed to set the aggression higher. Than the third-place car who was apparently faster would have gone around you.

 

posted in beta also

 

T

The whole point of the post is AI at 92% strength shouldn’t be so fast