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Onboards: AMS2 vs. Real Life

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  1. CrimsonEminence

    CrimsonEminence German localization/Testing Reiza Backer

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    The idea behind this topic is to give the possibility for us as a community to compare real life recordings of onboard laps with simililar car-track combos in Automobilista 2 and giving the possibility to recreate these. Often reading discussions about how close real life onboards really come to the simulated reality was igniting the spark to support it with potential actual visual comparison! The topic will still surely remain its subjective character after all without having all the data at hand, so let's keep it civilized if discussions occur. :p

    Especially a helmet/visor-mounted camera, delivers a pretty good perspective for such comparisons. Post your real life suggestions and/or comparison sim-laps here. :)

    For a start here are "some" examples, what laps and car experiences could be recreated ingame, sorted by classes.

    GT3



    Porsche GT3 Cup



    Stock Car 2020


    Also some "similar-ish" picks might be interesting.

    F-Retros:
    The 1974 Hesketh from James Hunt (F-Retro Gen1) driven by Delétraz at Monaco with Sim example:



    Tried somewhat similar car in the sim here (McLaren M23). Start the video, when the Hesketh video is at time stamp 0:31 (was at wrong grid spot and there is no formation lap). Sorry for the quality discrepancies, i'm not a content creator at all. :p

    1978 (F-Retro Gen2) Lotus 79 at Laguna Seca (this one probably drives without full skirts, it seems)



    Copersucar F5 (F-Retro Gen 2) at Donington Park


     
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    Ensign MN177 (F-Retro Gen 2) at Spa


    McLaren MP4/1 (F-Retro Gen2.5 you could say, faster with more downforce) at Brands Hatch



    Trucks




    Lancer R

    Lancer RS



    Stock Car Brasil 2019


    A run in the rain and interior visibility demonstration due to POV. Unfortunately overexposed light from the outside.
     
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    F-Reiza








    F-V12


     
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    Formula 3

    F309






    F301


     
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    Sprint Race




    P1 Class - AJR & Ginetta G58 (G57 is essentially identical)





     
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    P2





    P3




    F-V10 Gen1


     
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    P4 - MRX & MCR






    Copa Montana

     
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    F-Vee





    Not the brazilian Vee, tho!!!
     
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    Formula V10 Generation 2



    just a little whish pick :p



    Aussie Racing Cars


     
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    Group C




    Opala OldStock




    Ultima GTR Race




    Copa Fusca
     
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    F-Ultimate (FOM Videos have to be watched on YT directly)






    F-Trainer



    F-Trainer Advaced-(ish)
     
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    M1 Procar





    Caterham Academy

    Caterham Supersport

    Caterham Superlight

    Caterham 620R
     
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    F-Classic Gen1


    F-Classic Gen2



    F-Classic Gen3



     
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    Kart Rental

    Kart 4stroke Race

    Kart 125cc

    Kart 125cc Shifter


    Superkart



     
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    Formula Uno


    Copa Classic




    Opala (not a racing lap but interesting for the old Interlagos all the same)


    Omega (recorded on a potato but that's all there is)


    Super V8



    SC2021
     
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    Thanks @CrimsonEminence for putting these together - some great footage here :) I´ve made the topic a sticky and will be contributing with some references of my own.

    Quality onboards are a great way to gauge track accuracy and naturally car dynamics - I´d strongly recommend that people spend a little time studying these videos before engaging with pages and pages of physics discussions and topic after topic commenting on how car X should or should not behave, as often times people are firm believers in ideas that just aren´t so - some of these onboards are a really great reference of what sort of inputs and performances you could expect with certain cars, how bouncy or not a ride on some cars and some tracks can be, and whether lift-off oversteer really is this magic thing that makes turning the wheel on any race car redundant :p

    Conversely, there are things that can be pointed out in these videos demonstrating circunstances where the car handling and/or performance in the sim doesn´t stack up against reality - those are welcome observations too. A discussion driven by facts, data and observable dynamics is a lot more useful than walls of text filled with conjecture. Use it without moderation :)

    EDIT: Worth pointing out that there is obviously a wide range of track conditions, fuel loads, tire compounds, driver skill and some variations in car models in these videos as well vis-a-vis what you find in the game that should be taken into account to one degree or another.
     
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    Here's some AMS2 onboard for ya. Some GoPro helmet cam style footage of an A.I. race at Kyalami Historic. Shot in 4K/60p - YouTube will take a couple more days to mangle the 4K, but the 1080p is available now.

     
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    hey its unsung from steelcast's discord channel. One thing i want to mention is the 92 williams might not be the greatest representation for the ingame williams, since it has active suspension. I came here to post f1 vids but you beat me to the punch xD
     
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    heres a good one, monaco layout is different but it has an overhead and onboard!

     
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    Seems, AMS2 needs another "nerdy gimmick"...active suspension. :whistle:
     
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