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Onboards: AMS2 vs. Real Life

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by CrimsonEminence, May 5, 2021.

  1. azaris

    azaris Well-Known Member

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    Just putting this here for no particular reason. :whistle:

     
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  2. Maser V6

    Maser V6 Assume nothing. Verify everything. Have Fun Reiza Backer

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    Soon.

    FIRM BRAKE!!

    For more info on this car link #92
     
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  3. Billy Blaze

    Billy Blaze Well-Known Member Reiza Backer

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    These look interesting...:whistle:
     
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  4. Billy Blaze

    Billy Blaze Well-Known Member Reiza Backer

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    Busting out the old GT3's @ Spa meme. This is my third comparison to one of driver Ben Green's laps. Check out his channel here : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAeZUVI63-dbuWJV8_LxJKw
    He has posted laps with 4 or 5 cars that are in AMS2, and you can see his videos in their full-screen glory. Nifty driver.

     
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  5. CrimsonEminence

    CrimsonEminence Administrator Staff Member Reiza Backer

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    That engine starter intro is on point man :D

    P.S. imagine the fear of the Caterhams driver :D
     
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  6. Billy Blaze

    Billy Blaze Well-Known Member Reiza Backer

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    The Stock Car comes through, big time! The best starter sound in AMS 2!
     
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  7. CrimsonEminence

    CrimsonEminence Administrator Staff Member Reiza Backer

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    @steelreserv already posted it in the audio thread.

    It's restricted to slightly lower revs and seems not to have full possible acceleration, i would almost say, but it's a good onboard:

     
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  8. Billy Blaze

    Billy Blaze Well-Known Member Reiza Backer

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    Who remembers the good old IROC days?

     
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  9. ClickerSnapper

    ClickerSnapper Car in the Avatar, Rimac Nevera.

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    Just in case has not been posted...
     
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  10. Scraper

    Scraper Well-Known Member Reiza Backer

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    Lovely video - but that door would not pass Reiza's quality control. ;)
     
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  11. Dean Ogurek

    Dean Ogurek Well-Known Member Reiza Backer

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    Another great track to add to the Wish-list.
     
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  12. Billy Blaze

    Billy Blaze Well-Known Member Reiza Backer

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    I think the real question with this car is, what's the simulation value of the duct tape?:D

     
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  13. EF_Neo1st

    EF_Neo1st New Member

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    Not the same time of the day and track conditions, also I used different ways for driving the car but the time was similar and all the fighting when using more of the car seem like the real car.



    I dont have a Porsche in real life, but it seem a great work there Reiza, the car is a beast to tame and when abusing more of the revs it really shows how much of a beast it is to tame and very fun to drive too (and me driving kind of the same way as him on the real life video I did like 2s slower on valid lap, I would like to make a better comparison with same driving style but I would need to practice more to be able to drive as fast like that, I try to go smoother with the car for how I am used to drive everything).
     
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  14. Maser V6

    Maser V6 Assume nothing. Verify everything. Have Fun Reiza Backer

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    Beast
    Yes I recall so many regular news items for 911 deaths in the day (stats hidden for years now) the car is not known as widowmaker for no reason.
    This version is rather great out the box warm track/tyres. All historic tracks. 1st is too short imo for an easier drive. winter in rain esp, well, light foot req and fast reactions. few tweeks, nice. when its competitors arrive in game there will be some great races inc at Historic Spa etc.
     
  15. Billy Blaze

    Billy Blaze Well-Known Member Reiza Backer

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  16. Erik Geelhuijzen

    Erik Geelhuijzen New Member Reiza Backer

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    Maybe it's just me with high expectations. Maybe even with surreal expectations. But wouldn't it be perfect if the hand motion on the steering wheel would perfectly match between the two as proof that the sim of all Sims is finally upon is? Or have I have my hopes up too high, too unrealistic?
     
  17. Split Second

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    Billy Blaze I really like your comparison videos. Now it looks like the AMS2 version has much more understeer. But that is not why I am writing.
    I think you said you love to do this as a hobby.
    Now when I look at videos of AMS2 it always feels like it is a car driving on big balloons and I hate that.
    But I don't know if it is the physics or the view or both.
    So I am wondering if you have an effects program (like after-effects or so) where you can change your video?
    If you look at the real video you see that the camera is tilted a bit and with AMS2 not. I don't know if you can change that (In PC3 it is possible)?
    But the most interesting is the very high frequency oscillations of the camera in the real video. And it would be very interesting to see if you could replicate that in after effects or so.
    Because when I look at AMS2 they most of the time have these large frequency oscillations more like you are on a ship. And I think it would be much better with these high oscillations with much less of these large frequency oscillations. I think it would be much more realistic and it would be interesting to see. Because if it would be a success they could implement that in the sim. I think it would make a big difference. I think it would make the car feel much more grounded to the tarmac.
     
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  18. 2ndLastJedi

    2ndLastJedi Free speech matters Reiza Backer

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  19. Billy Blaze

    Billy Blaze Well-Known Member Reiza Backer

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    First off, thanks for your comment. I'm not really sure how to respond to everything you wrote, but I'll try. Making the videos is not a hobby, it's an outlet for my strong creative drive - simracing is my hobby. I might get bored making the videos next month and move on to something else, but I'll never stop simracing. I want to point out to everyone, that using the comparison videos to compare handling is not a valid exercise. I have no idea what his fuel and tire state are ( mine were semi-warm), he's on modern radials and I'm on 1974 bias-plys. His car is rebuilt possibly with weight-saving or otherwise improved parts. The purpose of the comparison vids is to show the accuracy of the track, and that the car hits all the marks - which it does understeering or not. Plus they're just fun to watch. I use Power Director 19 to make my videos - I only have access to what's in there. If someone knows how to make the camera tilt , let me know - it would come in handy. As far as high speed oscillations, you'd probably need to talk to Reiza about that. Again I thank you for your comments.
     
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  20. Split Second

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    Yeah I like your comparison videos a lot. Also thanks for responding.
    I thought that making videos and such was a hobby of you. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
    15 years ago or maybe more I also learned about 3D graphics but also after-effects and manipulating videos.
    Maybe I should install it again and try to do it myself. I think it would be interesting to create high-frequency oscilations with noise to make it less uniform and then crop it so the edges don't move. It would be interesting to see what effect it would have on the perception of the rooting of the car to the tarmac and also the realism.
    If it would be a success the developers could look at it and implement it in the sim instead of only the low-frequency oscillations of the camera.
     
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