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Please Reiza unlock this allready made track layout.

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by BrunoB, Dec 15, 2020.

  1. Gordie

    Gordie Active Member

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    He can't be wrong. He laserscanned it with his own eyes almost thirty years ago...from his camping chair. A far more superior perspective than any modern day on-track device.
     
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  2. alink

    alink Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    OK, then please show us your photos!
    Maybe were are all wrong, maybe all the videos and pictures were finding today are fakes, maybe all track maps from that time, wether if created today or original from 1991 are wrong.
    If you are so convinced that you are right and we are all wrong, please give us any evidence OR LET IT BE, FOREVER!
    REIZAs 1991 layout is completely right!
    Thank you!
     
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  3. psone

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    haha love that wikipedia is now a strange/obscure website. carry on. :D
     
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  4. alink

    alink Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Did some DEEEEEEP research and found this:
    changes of track 1990 to 1991 (official 1991 quali broadcast)
    and behind the trackmap is the 1991-1994 Club-chicane to see
    silv1.JPG
    Here a better look
    silv2.JPG
    Now compare it to as it was between 1994 and 2009
    The marked path was added in 2004, for motorcycles I think
    EDIT: I am wrong. This shortcut/path was added 1997
    silv3.JPG
    And that's the looking of todays Club-chicane
    silv4.JPG

    By the way: this is from 1945 :) compareable with the layout of Stowe and Club till 1990
    silv5.JPG

    Any further questions??
     
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  5. BrunoB

    BrunoB TT mode tifosi BANNED

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    Please Reiza unlock this allready made track layout.:p
     
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  6. alink

    alink Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I'm tired now.......... Please dream up something new and different, meanwhile this discussion is boring.
     
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  7. BrunoB

    BrunoB TT mode tifosi BANNED

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    Just an idea for those more openminded drivers who want to check out how great it is to use the track layout I proposed.
    Because I have just realised that at least in LB mode it is actually possible to use this great Historic track layout that Reiza hopefully will unlock (soon ;) ) - more or less for free (workload wise).

    If you load the "amputated" Silverstone 2001 its possible without any visual "obstructions" to use the same smooth entrance to Club Corner as shown in my video.
    And then exiting Club Corner shortly after use the orig highspeed left going Abbey corner just to approach the Bridge Corner with new challenging highspeed.

    ByTheWay: The only issue is that until Reiza officially unlock this Historic track layout then we have to accept that the game refuses to time our laps.:)
     
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  8. BrunoB

    BrunoB TT mode tifosi BANNED

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    Im glad to tell I was wrong on this part.:p
    It is actually possible to get AMS2 to record the laptime for a TT lap on the unofficial Silverstone 1991 version ;).

    If you select Silverstone 2001 and use both the mentioned smooth entrance to Club Corner and the highspeed Abbey Corner then the exact laptime is displayed as "Previous Lap" when you have crossed the start/finish line.
    At least if you stop the car before this laptime is overwritten by the next lap.

    I was able to lap at 1:16.261 and until Reiza does unlock this great track layout I consider it the unofficial WR for this track version.:p

    I had an idea of creating an unofficial LB where people could post a pic of their fastest lap on this track version until Reiza unlock this track version - but after I have seen how many aggressive fake facts there have been posted in this thread then I only believe in my own honesty.:whistle:
    What became of the "fact" that iRacing could never have laserscanned this track version?:p:p:p

    But the problem considering an unofficial LB is - that if you use this track layout then AMS2 consider the whole lap as exceding track boundaries and cannot destinguish between fair and unfair short cutting.

    ByTheWay: But at least personally everybody can get timed how fast they can drive a lap on this great historical Silverstone version.:cool:

    Silverstone unofficial WR 116261 klip.png
     
  9. alink

    alink Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    It's really an annoying topic but on the other side really interesting with which perfection REIZA rebuilt these historic tracks.
    Here a comparison between real 1991 and Reiza's 1991 Club-chicane. Absolute perfect!
    :hurrayreiza:
    silv2.JPG
    ss125846.jpg
     
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  10. FoolInjection

    FoolInjection New Member

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    What you are asking for is the 1997-2002 "Historic Grand Prix" layout which Silverstone probably only used for vintage racing events.
    [​IMG]
    While this would be cool... I have to take issue with this statement.

    That is completely factually incorrect. The Club chicane was added in 1991 and used until 1993. Until that point it had been a straight blast from Stowe into the Club corner.
    [​IMG]
    The smooth entrance to Club wasn't added until 1997; 3 years after Senna's passing.
    In fact, Senna's passing was probably the catalyst for the Abbey chicane being added. To slow the cars down much like they did at other circuits in the remainder of that 1994 season (the chicane at Eau Rouge or the "Beirut" chicane at Barcelona as other examples that year). The profile of Stowe was also changed in 1994.
    [​IMG]
    As I said it wouldn't be until 1997 that the "Historic" version of the circuit was added. The profile of the Club chicane itself hardly changed.
    [​IMG]
    Also, regarding Mansell... I'd say the 1987 layout was probably his favourite. Owning to the classic victory where he reeled in Piquet's almost half a minute lead, breaking the lap record multiple times in the process.
    [​IMG]
    Only the Luffield chicane breaking up the lap. Besides Mansell loved Silverstone for the fans... I mean they would always run onto the circuit to congratulate him on a win (he ran over a guy once when this happened if I remember rightly)
    [​IMG]
    You'd get arrested if you tried to do that nowadays...
     
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  12. alink

    alink Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Hey friends,
    stop your effort and try to explain, this guy is not able to comprehend.
    All our work is for nothing.
    And, he just doesn't know what he want. On the one the hand the brilliant 1991 track from Reiza is wrong, on the other hand he wishes an alternative layout for the 2001 circuit.
    My opinion is to finish this catastrophic topic, it never will get any result.
     
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  13. F1Aussie

    F1Aussie Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Can't believe this thread still has legs
     
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  14. Dan44AFCB

    Dan44AFCB Member AMS2 Club Member

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    "Please Reiza lock this allready made stupid thread"

    ;)
     
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  15. alink

    alink Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    yeah, I'm fully with you!!
     
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  16. BrunoB

    BrunoB TT mode tifosi BANNED

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    New unofficial WR: 1:15.235 :p:p

    115235.jpg
     
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