Random starting Fuel in fixed setup

Out of curiosity do the real championships allow pit stops with fuel and tyre strategy? The reason for asking is this would allow Reiza to allow starting fuel and tyre choices in the game even on default. I assume the Sprint Series is ruled out of this but the longer races could it be an option? This would resolve the fueling bug and make tactical decisions come into play along with risking tyre types on temperature, weather changes ,tyre wear, no. of stops etc.

Probably a stupid idea and flawed but to every argument maybe something positive will come out of it...

P.s. I do watch the streams of the Brazilian league racing (when I can) and enjoy the close racing therefore was in two minds of posting here as I expected a lot of backlash from the league community ,but I had to ask the questions.

 

I understand you're taking this very personally because you're a content creator focused on car setup, but this post really isn't about you.

Also, despite your knowledge, you may want to give some benefit of the doubt here. I understand you probably don't follow the Brazilian sim racing scene, but you're talking to some people in this thread with a huge amount of experience and knowledge. I wouldn't even begin to know how to estimate how many leagues they are responsible for total, but I would guess these people are running something like 100 different paid leagues per year, across several different sims, and some of them have been doing it the better part of two decades. And yes, many of their series' use custom setups. Your condescension is misplaced.

Also, as someone that has a Spec E30 race car (one of those series that allows nothing but camber adjustment and tire pressure changes), I can say that our camber setup amounts to, "as much as you can put on the car," and tire pressure with the spec tire doesn't change the pace as long as you are somewhere within a nearly 10 psi window. It changes the feel of the car, but not ultimate pace. If tomorrow they decided to mandate 2 degrees of negative camber and 38 psi, it would do absolutely nothing to change the racing in that series. Nothing. Yes you tried to address that in your previous post, but you also implied that people that don't do setup change aren't "real" racers, as heavily as the OP implied that anyone that uses a custom setup is a cheater. Show up at the track for one of these club races and tell these guys that you're a sim racing setup expert and their racing isn't real.

Again though, none of that is really relevant to this thread other than to say that, yes, you have a lot of knowledge (I've watched some of your vids in the past and looked at your Discord, they're all really helpful, I have a lot of respect for your knowledge) but so do a lot of other people, and theirs might be different than yours. You said you decided to reply to this thread only when he made it personal. He wasn't even responding to you, but to someone else that came in telling him he shouldn't be using custom setups in a thread about a bug report. And to imply that he is recruiting people to come in here is ridiculous. You're on the forum of a Brazil-focused sim, created by a Brazilian developer, attacking some well-known members of the Brazilian sim racing community; they don't need to ask people to come defend them, there are plenty willing to do so on their own.

 

Go Steel, go. You got this.

 

What in God's name are you on about? I know you like a lengthy piece of diatribe but seriously that does not make an ounce of sense to me.

 

Whoa, 3 paragraphs, pretty tough reading. But here, I quoted the part of your own massive two paragraph post telling them not to use fixed setups.

 

Oh my god, setups don't have exploits, sorry Steel, you can go now, you're free! Now can we focus on the BUG? For god sake

 

Let me be totally clear to at least put this aspect to rest. I'm familiar with the leagues the OP runs but do not participate in them, nor do I know him personally. I do participate in leagues other people who have posted concerns in here run, but having nothing to do with operating them. No one asked me to post here, and I suspect no one else was asked either. You're not being brigaded here, there are just a lot of people invested in these leagues and they have opinions on this issue.

 

You didn't quote it you paraphrased incorrectly, and that is the problem or trait you seem to have and I take issue with. Maybe if you actually read what someone wrote and directly quoted it would help. So please quote me directly where I was "telling them not to use fixed setups"? Constantly putting words in my mouth is getting rather repetitive.

 

That post had a literal quote right at the top.

 

And the quote questions why they use default setups, not me, "telling them not to use fixed setups".

 

This bug does indeed seem very nasty. I understand the philosophical question about setups as well, but it's neither here or there for the original post. We're all human and frustrated 24/7, add spice to posts. The discussion just got derailed in the beginning and this invites debate. It happens. I don't own the joint, but I do recommend the back and forth stops.

Fact of the matter is that the game offers fixed setups, many people like the concept. It's not right that it hands out different fuel levels which is like handing out 50kg ballasts to random drivers. This should indeed get reviewed ASAP though I understand that sometimes finding a fix takes a long time.



PS. Since loads of people read these threads, if you have some extra time and interest I do seriously recommend trying setting up a car in AMS2 to fit a certain track and conditions. For example Spa in January. It can be simulation-y fun that's not necessarily about finding lots of time instantly, but to stay consistent.

 

I agree with you mate! People need to understand that we are not here to make "noise" but to give feedback, after all we have contacts with many people who have problems with the game. The game being "ok/playable" for me is great, after all I work with it and I just want it to improve.

If REIZA or Simioni gave the opportunity, leagues could bring feedback about bugs in events, we just want to help.

 

Yeah there are still loads of things that could be improved and I hope we can continue to post informative bug reports such as your original.

And just to be clear I don't think anyone disagrees with the original post or any other helpful bug report. I just commented on the fact that people (this includes me) collectively have an amazing ability to not get along sometimes. It starts from a good place, but then perhaps out of frustration we poke each other until there's a debate about whether toilet paper should go over or under the holder.



By the way toilet paper should definitely go over.

 

This person is right. By which I mean the toilet paper should go over and I'll fight anyone that says otherwise.

 

It would be great if, even in fixed setup, we could adjust fuel as well as tires. In our last season race, I had worked out that a full tank would just about cover the race distance. Unfortunately the system decided that it was only going to fill the tanks with 55% fuel, which meant having to quickly setup a pit stop, and some of the racers, for some reason, could not get the game to refuel them.

 

Yeah, it would solve the issue, and allow us drivers to tailor at least the minimum to avoid anything janky or bugged with fixed setups without the possiblity of said exploits happening

 

Hello! I want to revive this post because it is not solved yet.
We have two leagues, there are different categories and some of them use fixed configuration, the error about random fuel is there today, the cars starts running with random amounts of fuel and that affects the pit strategies. We would like to kindly ask you to review this bug, it does not matter why a league uses the fixed configuration, several leagues use it in different simulators and it is simply a tool. Reiza thank you very much! We hope you can help us with this error, we believe that the most normal thing would be to leave the fuel free in a fixed configuration. Greetings from our league and our drivers.

 

3 year into this topic and yet, problem still exists.

 

We would appreciate if this was looked at.