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Road to V1.6 Hype Train (cont.)

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Rodger Davies, Oct 16, 2024.

  1. Inkta

    Inkta Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    As renato mentioned previously, the overtakegg stream was a rushed stream that they didn't have much time to plan and it went pretty bad as we know, but even with the low amount of time they had planned it they mentioned that most things weren't final since they were still a bit away from release. Following that logic there's already been videos shown of 1.6 in the official Reiza channel, and it's up to them whether more stuff should be shown or not.
     
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  2. Pales

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    To clarify, my comments are based solely on the official videos shared on your YouTube channel and by Overtake.gg, not on any unauthorized or leaked material. My feedback is directed at the content in those official previews, where it would be great to see a bit more of the improvements that are being highlighted.
     
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  3. Les expos de mtl

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    When approximatively can we expect more preview that doesn’t spoil new contents ?
     
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  4. CrimsonEminence

    CrimsonEminence Administrator Staff Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I don't disagree with that point yeah - there is also a factor of development vs. recording showcase here - the team isn't the largest as you know and it takes resources away from the completion of the patch in that particular case because there is an overlap of the folks doing preview video material and development on the software itself. (Also dev blogs btw.)

    This clashes and may not bring satisfying amount of preview content but prioritizing the development is the clearly favourable option here. To improve on that is a fair request and understandable without any debate. Yet it doesn't grant anybody the rights to do on their own, especially when uploading displays of outdated, not yet announced material. (Even if it would be up-to-date and announced it still doesn't follow the rules).
     
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  5. Ilfanterock

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    I guess for Christmas
     
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    Hence it would be useful to open the beta to allowing streaming ASAP so some beta members can showcase it. I'm sure a few of them would do a great job at it, much better than this poor overtake guy who never even read the changelog, let alone followed the beta developments.
     
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  7. pimpi84

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    Yup, I was actually expecting more of a difference in terms of tyres "tackiness" From 1.6, especially at corner exit. I just cannot stand anymore that continuous slight oversteer after each mid-low speed corner.
    Cannot wait to see (or drive) some actual 1.6.
    Gfx looks good though, a tad oversaturated maybe but overall very nice.
     
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  8. Emptyjar

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    100% agree. Having to counter steer on the exit of almost every corner for no reason is super annoying and largely why I haven’t played AMS2 in months.
    The hard thing about this update is everything we HAVE seen about 1.6, legit or not, has gone against the hype we constantly hear (AI is great, tire improvements are amazing, etc).

    It’s getting a little hard to ignore what my own eyes see….
     
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  9. CrimsonEminence

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    This depends on the car and track aswell though. Some may not show it at all anymore and some may show it still and in case you have cold tires, it will obviously happen anyway. (This build had most of the cars except the Audi V8 DTM in a pretty WIP state tho)

    There is a quite interesting disconnect in perception anyway (also fired by so many older sim titles) when it comes to corner exit as if cars aren't moving the rear at all on corner exit especially with vehicles that have quite beefy power diff lock to start with and a lot of power. (Not saying that 1.5 isn't overdoing it!)

    The speeds that happened are too high in 1.5 AMS2 tho and it happens way too often and in a very lazy and overstated way, no debate there.
     
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  10. CrimsonEminence

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    It's getting as annoying to see the update being judged on videos without context on an almost 2 months old build. (That doesn't go against you to be clear, more the source of the uploads)

    Maybe it will not be to your satisfaction, nobody except yourself can tell you that - but judging it by looking at WIP material that isn't greenlit to be shown is kind of unfair.
     
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  11. Emptyjar

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    Oh I’m sure it is! It’s an annoying situation for everyone, I am sure.
    That said I am still putting my faith in the Nils Naujoks comment and trusting the process. Very excited for 1.6.
     
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    It's so cool to see the Canadian Tire circuit in there to add to the variety of less known/less popular tracks. In terms of the statements here it's a bit worrying if beta testers are on 2 month old builds. That does point to at least an extra month or something if this needs to go through yet another beta cycle.
     
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  13. Claiton Rocha

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    Dear, you are trying to dry ice, haters will hate. Unfortunately, this type of person only makes work frustrating and discouraging. I'm not saying there's no room for criticism, but criticizing something that wasn't even released by a third party that may or may not be biased and dishonest is almost unethical. I look forward to 1.6.
     
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  14. Racinglegend1234

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    The beta we beta users have access to was updated 4 days ago
     
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  15. pimpi84

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    Indeed amongst those leaked videos the audi dtm was the one I liked most!
    Nono, don't get me wrong. I love slidey cars and tyres. It's just that ams2 until what is in public now tends to deliver an experience where the rear slides out very often and in a very predictable and controllable way.
    Drift cars are built and setup to do so. They let go the rear very early and with a lot of wheelspeen and all of this makes it "predictable" (And coreographic). Race slick tyres are not meant to do so, and I would expect the need of a much more nervous and immediate correction when grip is gone, otherwise it's gone. I was able to dial this down in 1.5 by lowering the differential a ton on all cars. Hopefully 1.6 will deliver that "lacking" Danger.. . .
     
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  16. CrimsonEminence

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    No, beta testers are on a more current build, the build used in these videos is an older testing branch he accessed.

    There are different beta branches, notformedia one is most current and the one in use in the videos is a comparison branch that was set up for some internal back and forth tests outside of dev build environment but it wasn't password protected, such things might happen in a crunch :)
     
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  17. Pixel

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    Gotcha, well, that is good to hear. And while in the wrong, those videos are cool to see and throwing a few of those out as teasers from some of the more respected/trusted youtubers in the beta list would be good to appease the hungry AMS2 masses.
     
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  18. CrimsonEminence

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    To be fair, the Audi is a quattro and the racing car drivetrain is actually more sophisticated than the road quattro package, so traction on corner exit and stability when throttling through mid-fast sweepers is off the charts better despite the weight and power of that car, but indeed it gives a good case of comparison for what i mean when i say "outdated" and judge by yourself.

    If you still don't like it when it's up that's fine, but the talks about improvements on all ends by various people, including some that were rightfully critical isn't out of thin air.
     
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  19. CrimsonEminence

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    Nah, it's not hate i read there. I'm just setting things straight because our friend on YT added no context and it needs to be clearly mentioned for context that it's an outdated branch.

    Not stating any "believe me, everything will be perfect, i'm cereal" either with that, just to clarify. There is always room for improvement.

    But i personally had my problems with various elements in AI, physics and even visuals and sound aswell that all got some improvements that turned out satisfying.
     
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  20. Pixel

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    Could be my imagination or just the settings (season/time of day, ect), but something about the shading of the cars in the leaked videos (and the bad Overtake stream) looks profoundly upgraded. Not sure if it is just that the reflection maps are much more detailed, but in general the cars themselves look much more photoreal, and the paint specially looks like real car paint.
     
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