Road to V1.6 Hype Train (cont.)

@llfanterrock
I already drive racing games so most of them here weren't even their father's wet dreams.
I already had the first steering wheel for a PC, a Trustmaster with rubber on the steering wheel and pedals, and that followed of course the classics like Momo, G25/27 and many others, right up to the now Fanatec equipment and before that with a joystick because there were no steering wheels yet.
I think I know how to set something like this up properly and I've had raceroom for a long time, but I had it thrown back into the bin for the same reasons as pcars, ac, acc and a few others.
Because of a GTR2 colleague who said Raceroom can now also be driven, I have it on mine again on October 3rd, 2024 PC installed, set up and of course driven!
Despite my inexperience with raceroom (purely from driving, not setting it up) I was able to beat the cars straight away seems far too easy. The cars drive like they are on rails!!!
It's just intended for the mainstream, these days people like to keep it simple and just consume instead of in just anything to become something really good!
That will also happen as soon as AC EVO comes out, then people will go running here and then the same will happen to AC EVO.
What's the real deal if I take a car that I've never driven before on a platform (engine) that I don't particularly like?
I know him well and can heat up as much as I can!!!
I don't let myself be blinded by pretty pictures, otherwise I and many others wouldn't have held on to GTR2 for so long and it is
So far there is no end in sight for gtr2!
The manufacturers want and have to sell, i.e. reach as wide a mass as possible, in other words, everyone should be able to cope with it.
Being too “real” has already broken the necks of some manufacturers.
I don't have anything more to say about it, I don't want to argue with anyone here.
It's much better to clarify this along the way. As I already mentioned, I only drive the OW's on ams2, the most
v10gen2, ultimategen2, just put your name above mine, no matter what route.
That's just my opinion on it!!!

 

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Get a folding stand!

 

I saw a vid yesterday that suggested to get a glimpse of 1.6 physics you need to play AMS1.
Please god I hope not.
1.5 was made AMS2 the closest and best handing Sim Ive come across. And while the 2024 stock cars are nice I keep hearing there's been more and more changes.
Can anyone confirm it deny this AMS1esque rumour

 

Well, I guess the devs can't please everyone. I really like AMS 1 physics, so if that's true I will be happy. AMS 1 gives me such a raw and brutal feeling that no other sim ever managed to do, not even GTR 2.

 

I agree AMS1 was amazing and I have 5000 hours on it. But it always had almost a syntax error I think where it would be push push push grip grip grip cliff and die....
Ams2 (for most cars GT3 are weird) is closer to Real world for me where I can over use the tyre a little bit. I'll be slower but I won't die.
Race cars aren't hard to drive... They're hard to drive fast. But some of the stuff in AMS1 your lucky to get through turn 1 (Formula V10 for example)

 

Yes, that behaviour is typical on this engine. rFactor 1, GTR 2, GSCE and AMS 1 were like that. I agree that it may not be real, but it feels so rewarding when you master it.
Tbh I doubt 1.6 will feel so edgy like that. But I could be wrong, who knows...

 

I heard it's closer to it. It won't be the same.
I also really like ams1, I still feel like 1.5 ams2 is a big downgrade in physics compared to it.
What I'm hoping for is a mid way point between 1 + 2, which I believe the Stock24 car has done pretty well.

From how 1.6 has been described to me, it sounds like there is still a bit of play at the limit (less than 1.5) but push further and you get punished.

 

To me this is a pretty good description on how the 1.6 physics feel to me actually.

 

Well its November 5th. Wheres my fireworks

 

This is only my personal opinion, but for me AMS2 already surpassed AMS1 a long time ago in terms of physics, even with its flaws. As much as I love AMS I haven't touched it in a long time and actually uninstalled it quite recently after not using it in such a long time. And some of the cars I consider near undriveable in AMS1 (the Ultima and perhaps Formula V12 come to mind) are much more fun to drive in AMS2, while still being believable (more so than in Automobilista 1, IMHO).

For what it's worth, in general I don't think AMS2 1.6 is going to feel like AMS1. While yes, you can not overdrive cars in 1.6 in the same way you used to in 1.5 and get the same results, it doesn't mean the experience is gonna be "everything's fine until you suddenly fall of this cliff". The cars usually communicate their limits rather well through FFB, and there's still a certain "wiggle room" for many cars that you can and should explore in order to be fast. If you take it too far however, like missing the braking and turn-in points (I'm good at that! ) the consequences tend to be more severe, but at the same time it's still possible to save a bad situation from getting worse with the right inputs; you just lose more time than in 1.5, and potentially wear down your tires quicker as well (lock-ups are nasty).

tl;dr 1.6 isn't going to turn this into AMS1. If you vastly prefer AMS1 over AMS2 I don't think this will totally sway you over, but if you already enjoyed AMS2 before, chances are you'll have more fun with 1.6. Also, don't believe any rumor you hear.

EDIT: To be fair, some of the cars in Automobilista 1 were absolutely sublime, I gotta admit that. The stock cars, for instance, have always been outstanding. Those are perhaps among the few cars that were in many aspects up to par with AMS2. But the quality of cars in AMS1 varies much more than it does in AMS2, particularly 1.6, where most cars seem extremely close in terms of their physics and FFB qualities.

 

Wrong year mate

 

For me, 1.6 physics just feel more natural, car behavior more in line with expectations than before.

 

This is why I love the new physics. I never spin without a clear reason for it happening

 

It's not the physics - your driving is just better

 

I wish

 

I would usggest you to lower your expectations for this month...

 

Yeah a happy medium between AMS1 and current ams2 would be ideal.
I really like the 24 Stock Cars so I'm chomping at the bit for them on everything to be fair. Was just a little concerned they're gonna be knifes edge like all the Gmotor games

 

It would be great if controller response in AMS2 was as good as in AMS1.
Car handling in 1.6 is more predictable but it's not like AMS1.

 

Thanks mate you answered everything I was hoping for